Transfers and Rumours 2017 > 2018

[Breh]

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Viviani's move makes sense I guess. Sabatini needed a new sprinter with Richeze being tied to Gaviria.

Sad to see Kittel go tho, he's a superb rider and a very likeable leader. I hope he has a great time with Katusha.

It's just that it's pretty much the most relevant team in cycling today.

Last time they topped any teamranking was 2012...

 

[GuyIncognito]

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Last time they topped any teamranking was 2012...

True. Their results are great, but given their enormous pile of money you'd expect better

 

[kingjr]

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Viviani's move makes sense I guess. Sabatini needed a new sprinter with Richeze being tied to Gaviria.

Sad to see Kittel go tho, he's a superb rider and a very likeable leader. I hope he has a great time with Katusha.

It's just that it's pretty much the most relevant team in cycling today.

Last time they topped any teamranking was 2012...

They won the race that matters 5 out of 6 times the last few years, in convincing fashion.

 

[Blanco]

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Viviani's move makes sense I guess. Sabatini needed a new sprinter with Richeze being tied to Gaviria.

Sad to see Kittel go tho, he's a superb rider and a very likeable leader. I hope he has a great time with Katusha.

It's just that it's pretty much the most relevant team in cycling today.

Last time they topped any teamranking was 2012...

They won the race that matters 5 out of 6 times the last few years, in convincing fashion.

You're delusional if you think only one race matters. Movistar and Quick Step are not worse than them by any means in the last 5 years

 

[Breh]

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Viviani's move makes sense I guess. Sabatini needed a new sprinter with Richeze being tied to Gaviria.

Sad to see Kittel go tho, he's a superb rider and a very likeable leader. I hope he has a great time with Katusha.

It's just that it's pretty much the most relevant team in cycling today.

Last time they topped any teamranking was 2012...

They won the race that matters 5 out of 6 times the last few years, in convincing fashion.

You're delusional if you think only one race matters. Movistar and Quick Step are not worse than them by any means in the last 5 years

Best to ignore that kind of reasoning.

 

[deValtos]

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Viviani's move makes sense I guess. Sabatini needed a new sprinter with Richeze being tied to Gaviria.

Sad to see Kittel go tho, he's a superb rider and a very likeable leader. I hope he has a great time with Katusha.

It's just that it's pretty much the most relevant team in cycling today.

Last time they topped any teamranking was 2012...

They won the race that matters 5 out of 6 times the last few years, in convincing fashion.

You're delusional if you think only one race matters. Movistar and Quick Step are not worse than them by any means in the last 5 years

I read that 60% of all sponsor exposure for the entire year happens at the TDF. Every other single race in the calendar makes up the other 40%. So from a budget perspective winning the Tour is more important than if you were to win every other single race.

 

[janraaskalt]

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So is Viviani moving to QS now, or at the beginning of next season?

Mid-season transfer window is closed.

 

[b.broadhurst]

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Viviani's move makes sense I guess. Sabatini needed a new sprinter with Richeze being tied to Gaviria.

Sad to see Kittel go tho, he's a superb rider and a very likeable leader. I hope he has a great time with Katusha.

It's just that it's pretty much the most relevant team in cycling today.

Last time they topped any teamranking was 2012...

They won the race that matters 5 out of 6 times the last few years, in convincing fashion.

You're delusional if you think only one race matters. Movistar and Quick Step are not worse than them by any means in the last 5 years

They are 3 different teams who have different targets, pointless comparing as you can see it is very difficult to win across all types of races.

Sky

One day races - 11
Stage races - 37
Stages - 107

Movistar

One day races - 22
Stage races - 29
Stages - 94

Quick Step

One day races - 41
Stage races - 23
Stages - 178

 

[Jagartrott]

Kittel to Katusha confirmed.

http://m.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20170816_03019980

Finally Katusha using their huge budget instead of wasting it away..
Great move!

Obvious mystery virus for Kittel2018 is obvious.

I read that 60% of all sponsor exposure for the entire year happens at the TDF. Every other single race in the calendar makes up the other 40%. So from a budget perspective winning the Tour is more important than if you were to win every other single race.

I'm quite sure this depends on the target audience/customer.
British public will be quite different from the Italian public, which both will differ from the Belgian public, etc.

 

[GuyIncognito]

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the race that matters

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If you consider only one race matters, why are you in here discussing signings of youngsters who won't matter for that race for many years if ever?

 

[Anderis]

Can we go back to discussing possible and confirmed transfers instead of arguing whether Team Sky has been successful enough or not in recent years? They have their own thread.

 

[Blanco]

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Viviani's move makes sense I guess. Sabatini needed a new sprinter with Richeze being tied to Gaviria.

Sad to see Kittel go tho, he's a superb rider and a very likeable leader. I hope he has a great time with Katusha.

It's just that it's pretty much the most relevant team in cycling today.

Last time they topped any teamranking was 2012...

They won the race that matters 5 out of 6 times the last few years, in convincing fashion.

You're delusional if you think only one race matters. Movistar and Quick Step are not worse than them by any means in the last 5 years

I read that 60% of all sponsor exposure for the entire year happens at the TDF. Every other single race in the calendar makes up the other 40%. So from a budget perspective winning the Tour is more important than if you were to win every other single race.

I'm not talking about business here, sponsors, budget, etc. I'm talking about cycling, and which team is the best, and that isn't Sky alone.

 

[Breh]

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Can we go back to discussing possible and confirmed transfers instead of arguing whether Team Sky has been successful enough or not in recent years? They have their own thread.

Agreed.

I'm interested in how Katusha will fare in 2018.
Kittel for LeTour seems to be a given. Will they send Zakarin to France aswell? That would leave them with very few cards to play in the Giro unless Spilak steps up to GT racing. Taaramae is gone aswell.
With Kristoff leaving their classics squad is pretty much beheaded. Or will he stay after all?

 

[MatParker117]

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Can we go back to discussing possible and confirmed transfers instead of arguing whether Team Sky has been successful enough or not in recent years? They have their own thread.

Agreed.

I'm interested in how Katusha will fare in 2018.
Kittel for LeTour seems to be a given. Will they send Zakarin to France aswell? That would leave them with very few cards to play in the Giro unless Spilak steps up to GT racing. Taaramae is gone aswell.
With Kristoff leaving their classics squad is pretty much beheaded. Or will he stay after all?

GC at the Giro, stages and break chasing at the Tour for Zakarin.

 

[May0maniac]

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Terpstra re-upped with QS for a year. Logical. I never thought that Lotto-Jumbo thing was happening.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/terpstra-extends-with-quick-step-floors-for-one-year/

Yeah, he despises Rabofail with passion.

 

[rick james]

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Agree with Flo's post.

Viviani's move to Quick Set is a win for both parties - Viviani will get sprint support and ride a GT, while Viviani will be a vital part to their classics squad - De La Cruz move to Sky must be about money - Quick step is focusing a bit more on GC , so have a growing cohort of climbers in Martin, Jungels, Brambilla, Mas etc - A strange move by De la Cruz

it always is with sky....apparently

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Agree with Flo's post.

Viviani's move to Quick Set is a win for both parties - Viviani will get sprint support and ride a GT, while Viviani will be a vital part to their classics squad - De La Cruz move to Sky must be about money - Quick step is focusing a bit more on GC , so have a growing cohort of climbers in Martin, Jungels, Brambilla, Mas etc - A strange move by De la Cruz

it always is with sky....apparently

More often that not, it definitely is. Otherwise it makes no sense for a rider like De La Cruz to go to Sky, largely sacrificing their own chances.. obviously, there's also something to do 'marginal gains' thing riders who have made the move have alluded to. I don't think its all PR from their side

 

[rick james]

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Crybaby, starting to cry already.
Vuelta begins on 19th. Its better you keep the crying for then. :lol: :lol:
Calling sky fans fanbots is extremely "Nauseous" and "Uncalled" for.

Classy post. A true sky fanboy!

quit the fan boy talk, its uncalled for and considering some let out a gasp every time Bertie spring a new tooth on here it really is beyond parody folk going on about sky fans

 

[rick james]

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Agree with Flo's post.

Viviani's move to Quick Set is a win for both parties - Viviani will get sprint support and ride a GT, while Viviani will be a vital part to their classics squad - De La Cruz move to Sky must be about money - Quick step is focusing a bit more on GC , so have a growing cohort of climbers in Martin, Jungels, Brambilla, Mas etc - A strange move by De la Cruz

it always is with sky....apparently

More often that not, it definitely is. Otherwise it makes no sense for a rider like De La Cruz to go to Sky, largely sacrificing their own chances.. obviously, there's also something to do 'marginal gains' thing riders who have made the move have alluded to. I don't think its all PR from their side

but any move to a better team will be about money, its no just down to team Sky

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Agree with Flo's post.

Viviani's move to Quick Set is a win for both parties - Viviani will get sprint support and ride a GT, while Viviani will be a vital part to their classics squad - De La Cruz move to Sky must be about money - Quick step is focusing a bit more on GC , so have a growing cohort of climbers in Martin, Jungels, Brambilla, Mas etc - A strange move by De la Cruz

it always is with sky....apparently

More often that not, it definitely is. Otherwise it makes no sense for a rider like De La Cruz to go to Sky, largely sacrificing their own chances.. obviously, there's also something to do 'marginal gains' thing riders who have made the move have alluded to. I don't think its all PR from their side

but any move to a better team will be about money, its no just down to team Sky

Oh yeah totally, but Sky in particular have had such a great depth of talent that money pretty much is the only reason in some cases.

 

[Forever The Best]

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De la Cruz to Sky: **** that

These dumb speculation in-out overviews for Sky are unnecessary IMO, it's the same as the GT team speculation posts. Just Sky fanbois circlejerking, keep it in the Sky thread or do it for all teams.

edit: or set up a Sky fan forum. Just my 2c!

edit2 to clarify as I will inevitably be attacked by a horde: only a select few posters click on this threat wondering "gee which riders have Sky signed/will Sky sign/are Sky rumored to sign today". Most click on the thread to read the latest transfers and rumors in general. These posts which throw confirmed transfers and rumors onto a pile have little to no additional informative value.

If you don't like that people are posting things about Sky, because you don't like them, I would recommend you to look elsewhere than this forum.

No indeed, posting rumours may have no additional informative vallue, but that's the whole idea of this thread. It's very usefull for people, like me, who would like to have a quick overview of the latest news in transfer land.

I don't think you read her post carefully.

That's the norm among sky fans on this forum. Don't read or try to understand, just assume and attack.

Crybaby, starting to cry already.
Vuelta begins on 19th. Its better you keep the crying for then. :lol: :lol:
Calling sky fans fanbots is extremely "Nauseous" and "Uncalled" for.

And yet you do the same...
I agree with Flo that the Sky GT team talk should be in the appropriate thread, not here.

[quote="jaylew":3ep3f5bc]Terpstra re-upped with QS for a year. Logical. I never thought that Lotto-Jumbo thing was happening.

<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/terpstra-extends-with-quick-step-floors-for-one-year</span>/

Yeah, he despises Rabofail with passion. [/quote]
Who was the last Dutch rider from Rabobank that won a big race? (monument, OG, WC or GT)
It is obviously understandable.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Dumoulin didn't get involved in that Rabofail show and look at him now! Serves them well after what they did to Rasmussen...

 

[yaco]

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Agree with Flo's post.

Viviani's move to Quick Set is a win for both parties - Viviani will get sprint support and ride a GT, while Viviani will be a vital part to their classics squad - De La Cruz move to Sky must be about money - Quick step is focusing a bit more on GC , so have a growing cohort of climbers in Martin, Jungels, Brambilla, Mas etc - A strange move by De la Cruz

it always is with sky....apparently

Stop littering this thread with un-necessary posts - My opinion about the move of De La Cruz had nothing to do with Sky - Many riders move for more money, some rider moves appear unwise, some move for more opportunity, some move for a change of scenery - You are MAKING it about Sky.

 

[hfer07]

So Vivi is replacing Kittel?

QS keeps double downing on single stage wins & classics than week long & GT races it seems....

 

[kingjr]

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the race that matters

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If you consider only one race matters, why are you in here discussing signings of youngsters who won't matter for that race for many years if ever?

Have I actually discussed the signings of any riders? I don't recall.