Transfers and Rumours 2017 > 2018

[GenericBoonenFan]

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Any news about Trek?

Is there any wt team except Trek without new signings?

Lotto Soudal, Cannondale-Drapac

Yeah but Campenaerts and The Keuk are basically confirmed.

 

[Gigs_98]

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Official budget caps? - it wouldn't solve any problem.
Look at the football. There are 3-5 clubs with the biggest budgets (Real, Barca, PSG, maybe MU or MC) but still they won't be able to spend 200 mio euro on a single player (their official debt would be too high). And we have Neymar's transfer - appropriate sponsor's agreement solved this problem. And finally Bayern and Borussia cryies they'll never win CL.
Now Sky apparently has the biggest budget - but are you sure that UAE or Bahrain will not defeat them in 2018 or 2020?

Maybe they will but that would only mean they become the new most disliked team. It's not like people have a problem with sky in general, they have a problem with them because of their dominance.
Also I don't really understand your football argument. I mean football is probably the sport with the most unbalanced budgets and therefore we have a few teams dominating the European scene. Isn't that an example for why budget caps are necessary?

 

[Samamba]

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Any news about Trek?

Is there any wt team except Trek without new signings?

Lotto Soudal, Cannondale-Drapac

Yeah but Campenaerts and The Keuk are basically confirmed.

I don't get why they aren't confirming them officially though. Plus they have a few certain leavers that aren't replaced and still a lot of guys who haven't re-signed for next year.

 

[StryderHells]

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Any news about Trek?

Is there any wt team except Trek without new signings?

Lotto Soudal, Cannondale-Drapac

Yeah but Campenaerts and The Keuk are basically confirmed.

I know but they aren't offcial yet so thought I'd mention them, can't work out why they haven't been announced yet.

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

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Official budget caps? - it wouldn't solve any problem.
Look at the football. There are 3-5 clubs with the biggest budgets (Real, Barca, PSG, maybe MU or MC) but still they won't be able to spend 200 mio euro on a single player (their official debt would be too high). And we have Neymar's transfer - appropriate sponsor's agreement solved this problem. And finally Bayern and Borussia cryies they'll never win CL.
Now Sky apparently has the biggest budget - but are you sure that UAE or Bahrain will not defeat them in 2018 or 2020?

Maybe they will but that would only mean they become the new most disliked team. It's not like people have a problem with sky in general, they have a problem with them because of their dominance.
Also I don't really understand your football argument. I mean football is probably the sport with the most unbalanced budgets and therefore we have a few teams dominating the European scene. Isn't that an example for why budget caps are necessary?

It was an example (Neymar case) why budget caps in cycling would not be effective.
And the second conclusion (yes, not properly specified):
R. Lewandowski instead of complaining about team weaknesses should transfer to Real or Bayern should find more generous sponsors.

 

[Brullnux]

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Official budget caps? - it wouldn't solve any problem.
Look at the football. There are 3-5 clubs with the biggest budgets (Real, Barca, PSG, maybe MU or MC) but still they won't be able to spend 200 mio euro on a single player (their official debt would be too high). And we have Neymar's transfer - appropriate sponsor's agreement solved this problem. And finally Bayern and Borussia cryies they'll never win CL.
Now Sky apparently has the biggest budget - but are you sure that UAE or Bahrain will not defeat them in 2018 or 2020?

Look at rugby. You have teams like Exeter with a small budget able to become champions and consistently fight with the best because of the salary cap. Obviously, you get some teams break it and then the RFU is too incompetent to do anything, but it's been an enormous force for good.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Budget caps are probably unenforceable in a sport where at any one time there are teams based in one country but registered in a second employing riders with citizenship of a third country but domiciled in a fourth to race in a fifth country while bankrolled by sponsors based in sixth and seventh countries. Particularly when most of the expensive riders are living as tax exiles anyway and many of the biggest funders are dubious plutocrats or dictatorships. Good luck to the UCI trying to stop some princeling or kleptocrat funnelling side money to a rider in Monaco.

That budget caps probably won't work by no means implies that people should like moneybags teams mucking up the sport however.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Budget/salary caps wouldn't work, however a 'draft' concept could work as a means to assist lower ranked teams get first crack at new talent.

 

[Ricco']

Christopher Lawless to Sky.

 

[Alexandre B.]

It's a minor transfer but a funny one: Maxime Bonsergent goes to l'Armée de Terre.

 

[StephenC2020]

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It's a minor transfer but a funny one: Maxime Bonsergent goes to l'Armée de Terre.

He should fit in well then

 

[Vasilis]

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It's a minor transfer but a funny one: Maxime Bonsergent goes to l'Armée de Terre.

He should fit in well then

Any chance of him moving up the ranks?

 

[LaFlorecita]

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It's a minor transfer but a funny one: Maxime Bonsergent goes to l'Armée de Terre.

Haha

 

[jarvo]

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Christopher Lawless to Sky.

Sky looking to use neo-pros for all sprint finishes next year? Lawless and Halvorsen and possibly Doull are there only sprint options if I am not mistaken?

I suppose it is a way to develop sprint talent in races that they are not prioritising to the same level as they do GT's

 

[hrotha]

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It's a minor transfer but a funny one: Maxime Bonsergent goes to l'Armée de Terre.

He should fit in well then

Any chance of him moving up the ranks?

As a general rule, I wouldn't say that's majorly important as long as he soldiers on.

 

[Roku]

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It's a minor transfer but a funny one: Maxime Bonsergent goes to l'Armée de Terre.

Is he related in any way to Stephane Bonsergent?

 

[Alexandre B.]

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It's a minor transfer but a funny one: Maxime Bonsergent goes to l'Armée de Terre.

Is he related in any way to Stephane Bonsergent?

He is his nephew.

 

[lemon cheese cake]

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It's a minor transfer but a funny one: Maxime Bonsergent goes to l'Armée de Terre.

If i'm right in thinking, he was the rider who snapped his derailleur and lost his shoe while fighting for the win with the British trio at the junior cx world champs?

 

[Ruudz0r]

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It's a minor transfer but a funny one: Maxime Bonsergent goes to l'Armée de Terre.

If i'm right in thinking, he was the rider who snapped his derailleur and lost his shoe while fighting for the win with the British trio at the junior cx world champs?

Ye he also recently said he likes CX better than road racing.

 

[Ricco']

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It's a minor transfer but a funny one: Maxime Bonsergent goes to l'Armée de Terre.

If i'm right in thinking, he was the rider who snapped his derailleur and lost his shoe while fighting for the win with the British trio at the junior cx world champs?

Ye he also recently said he likes CX better than road racing.

Wise guy.

 

[GuyIncognito]

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It's a minor transfer but a funny one: Maxime Bonsergent goes to l'Armée de Terre.

He should fit in well then

Any chance of him moving up the ranks?

As a general rule, I wouldn't say that's majorly important as long as he soldiers on.

Stop with the puns before I dish out corporal punishment

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

The french domestic scene will be a true battlefield next year!

 

[nedhill]

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Budget caps are probably unenforceable in a sport where at any one time there are teams based in one country but registered in a second employing riders with citizenship of a third country but domiciled in a fourth to race in a fifth country while bankrolled by sponsors based in sixth and seventh countries. Particularly when most of the expensive riders are living as tax exiles anyway and many of the biggest funders are dubious plutocrats or dictatorships. Good luck to the UCI trying to stop some princeling or kleptocrat funnelling side money to a rider in Monaco.

That budget caps probably won't work by no means implies that people should like moneybags teams mucking up the sport however.

A luxury tax would work. It could also be designed in such a way to solve the domicile issue and side endorsements, but the parties would have to desire to do that.

"A luxury tax in professional sports is a surcharge put on the aggregate payroll of a team to the extent to which it exceeds a predetermined guideline level set by the league. The ostensible purpose of this "tax" is to prevent teams in major markets with high incomes from signing almost all of the more talented players and hence destroying the competitive balance necessary for a sport to maintain fan interest."

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Lawrence Naesen to lotto soudal
source: Het nieuwsblad

 

[RedheadDane]

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It's a minor transfer but a funny one: Maxime Bonsergent goes to l'Armée de Terre.

If i'm right in thinking, he was the rider who snapped his derailleur and lost his shoe while fighting for the win with the British trio at the junior cx world champs?

How does that happen? I thought cycling shoes were pretty... form-fitting... if that's the right word. Or, are cross shoes somehow different?