Transfers and Rumours 2018 > 2019

[HelloDolly]

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Sunweb is a much better development team than EF at least. Maybe they could do something with Dombrowski.

Then again, not many like to be in the constraints of Sunweb which is why a lot of riders seem to leave the team after 1/2 years

What constraints do Sunweb have ???

Surely they are not a constrained as SKY where every minute of the race is planned

Sunweb actually has a quite comparable 'scientific' approach to cycling as Sky have. Some Sunweb riders mentioned that their nutritional program is probably even more advanced than it is at Team Sky. Laurens Ten Dam mentioned in his podcast that, during the TDF, he is basically ordered to eat a certain amount of nuts at a certain time each evening. :lol:

Gosh.....em...diets do not always work the same for everyone so not sure about that approach

 

[Broccolidwarf]

God you rub me the wrong way with your disgusting chauvinistic, red-white tinted glasses in every argument you enter. Yes, Kangert should have babysitted Fuglsang for a 12th place and yes, Kangert is a bad domestique for crashing out of the Giro (as GC-rider) and not riding any GT apart from that. Duh

Thank god Astana saved their sinking ship in Massif Central and allowed their whole team up the road on stage 14 and 15......

LOL

I am talking about Kangert not being a good domestique, because he only actually did domestique work for 2 stages out of 21, while most of his team mates did a lot more.

YOU are the one that constantly want to make it a question of nationality, you actually seem very preoccupied with it.

How about you argue the merits of what I write, rather than fabrications of your imagination?

 

[Valv.Piti]

God you rub me the wrong way with your disgusting chauvinistic, red-white tinted glasses in every argument you enter. Yes, Kangert should have babysitted Fuglsang for a 12th place and yes, Kangert is a bad domestique for crashing out of the Giro (as GC-rider) and not riding any GT apart from that. Duh

Thank god Astana saved their sinking ship in Massif Central and allowed their whole team up the road on stage 14 and 15......

LOL

I am talking about Kangert not being a good domestique, because he only actually did domestique work for 2 stages out of 21, while most of his team mates did a lot more.

YOU are the one that constantly want to make it a question of nationality, you actually seem very preoccupied with it.

How about you argue the merits of what I write, rather than fabrications of your imagination?

Kangert is a mountain domestique. You know what that means? That means his main job is support Fuglsang in the mountains. So when Fuglsang lost over 4 minutes on the first hard mountain stage midways through the race, of course he shouldn't be helping Fuglsang that much. Isn't it obvious??

No, you are claiming Kangert isn't a good mountain domestique based on the fact that you apparently concluded that Kangert only worked 2 days for Fuglsang throughout this Tour. Fair enough, I believe you, but its still a absolutely laughable argument.

 

[MuskyOurSaviour]

With collapse of Aqua Sky should get Dunbar.

Siviakov Dunbar Bernal Tao Donovan. 10 more years of domination

 

[wouterkaas]

Re: Re:

Sunweb is a much better development team than EF at least. Maybe they could do something with Dombrowski.

Then again, not many like to be in the constraints of Sunweb which is why a lot of riders seem to leave the team after 1/2 years

What constraints do Sunweb have ???

Surely they are not a constrained as SKY where every minute of the race is planned

Sunweb actually has a quite comparable 'scientific' approach to cycling as Sky have. Some Sunweb riders mentioned that their nutritional program is probably even more advanced than it is at Team Sky. Laurens Ten Dam mentioned in his podcast that, during the TDF, he is basically ordered to eat a certain amount of nuts at a certain time each evening. :lol:

Gosh.....em...diets do not always work the same for everyone so not sure about that approach

Well go tell ‘em they don’t know what they are doing. But it is a typical part of their “scientifical” approach

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

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With collapse of Aqua Sky should get Dunbar.

Siviakov Dunbar Bernal Tao Donovan. 10 more years of domination

An alert WT team should sign Dunbar and Pedersen effective immediately. Might as well get in ahead of those who will presumably snap them up for next year.

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

Re:

With collapse of Aqua Sky should get Dunbar.

Siviakov Dunbar Bernal Tao Donovan. 10 more years of domination

Amazing scenario.. :razz:

 

[HelloDolly]

Re: Re:

Sunweb is a much better development team than EF at least. Maybe they could do something with Dombrowski.

Then again, not many like to be in the constraints of Sunweb which is why a lot of riders seem to leave the team after 1/2 years

What constraints do Sunweb have ???

Surely they are not a constrained as SKY where every minute of the race is planned

Sunweb actually has a quite comparable 'scientific' approach to cycling as Sky have. Some Sunweb riders mentioned that their nutritional program is probably even more advanced than it is at Team Sky. Laurens Ten Dam mentioned in his podcast that, during the TDF, he is basically ordered to eat a certain amount of nuts at a certain time each evening. :lol:

Gosh.....em...diets do not always work the same for everyone so not sure about that approach

Well go tell ‘em they don’t know what they are doing. But it is a typical part of their “scientifical” approach

Geez who rattled your cage

 

[Moviefan1203]

Sunweb is a good home for Dombrowski. He has tons of talent.

 

[Hakkapelit]

God you rub me the wrong way with your disgusting chauvinistic, red-white tinted glasses in every argument you enter. Yes, Kangert should have babysitted Fuglsang for a 12th place and yes, Kangert is a bad domestique for crashing out of the Giro (as GC-rider) and not riding any GT apart from that. Duh

Thank god Astana saved their sinking ship in Massif Central and allowed their whole team up the road on stage 14 and 15......

LOL

I am talking about Kangert not being a good domestique, because he only actually did domestique work for 2 stages out of 21, while most of his team mates did a lot more.

YOU are the one that constantly want to make it a question of nationality, you actually seem very preoccupied with it.

How about you argue the merits of what I write, rather than fabrications of your imagination?

Thats a very monolithical view of the roles in a team, I havent seen any sign of that he contradicted the role the managment wanted him to fill. OTOH he's been instrumental for Nibali on many occations. A separate question is if he can be on the same lvl as before his crash.

 

[42x16ss]

Re: Re:

With collapse of Aqua Sky should get Dunbar.

Siviakov Dunbar Bernal Tao Donovan. 10 more years of domination

An alert WT team should sign Dunbar and Pedersen effective immediately. Might as well get in ahead of those who will presumably snap them up for next year.

Warbasse would be a decent last minute signing as well, along with Dunne and Denifl. Rest of the team is quite average though.

 

[Laplaz]

Warbasse and Denifl would both be good for Sunweb

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Debusschere confirmed to Katusha-Alpecin, Another belgium who will fight for strong hair!

 

[DNP-Old]

Alejandro Osorio to Astana is off. Instead he'll go to Nippo ( ) together with Ruben Acosta. Miguel Florez will join Daniel Muñoz at Androni I think.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

God you rub me the wrong way with your disgusting chauvinistic, red-white tinted glasses in every argument you enter. Yes, Kangert should have babysitted Fuglsang for a 12th place and yes, Kangert is a bad domestique for crashing out of the Giro (as GC-rider) and not riding any GT apart from that. Duh

Thank god Astana saved their sinking ship in Massif Central and allowed their whole team up the road on stage 14 and 15......

LOL

I am talking about Kangert not being a good domestique, because he only actually did domestique work for 2 stages out of 21, while most of his team mates did a lot more.

YOU are the one that constantly want to make it a question of nationality, you actually seem very preoccupied with it.

How about you argue the merits of what I write, rather than fabrications of your imagination?

Thats a very monolithical view of the roles in a team, I havent seen any sign of that he contradicted the role the managment wanted him to fill. OTOH he's been instrumental for Nibali on many occations. A separate question is if he can be on the same lvl as before his crash.

I doubt management wanted him to ride like an estonian Cummings

You should take a look at the TdF mountain stage this year.

Kangert was in a break on one - on the rest he sat at the back of the peloton, by himself, away from his team mates, and he stayed there as the peloton decreased to 100, 80, 60, 40, 30 and 20, while the rest of the team appeared to be working in unison, towards a common goal.

Now ofcourse that MAY have been team orders..... they would just be very strange ones, with very little purpose, especially on stage after stage after stage

 

[Der Effe]

It’s not Kangert his fault Fuglsang is a very mediocre GT-rider, why would anyone work for a guy who practically gets dropped on every single occasion of importance? Now please stop this utterly tedious discussion and let’s talk about transfers.

Seems like the first Aqua Blue rider to find a new team is Shane Archbold, who would join Lotto Jumbo’s sprinting train.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

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It’s not Kangert his fault Fuglsang is a very mediocre GT-rider, why would anyone work for a guy who practically gets dropped on every single occasion of importance? Now please stop this utterly tedious discussion and let’s talk about transfers.

Seems like the first Aqua Blue rider to find a new team is Shane Archbold, who would join Lotto Jumbo’s sprinting train.

Weird that people seem to think, that domestiques can just decide for themselves to do no work, because they deem their captain mediocre

If you find the debate tedious, don't take part in it

 

[Lo squalo di messina]

Come on now kangert is a very valuable domestique if he has the right captain. The guy was instrumental for nibali on a lot of occasions. Nibs made sure to repay him right before he left astana, that should tell you enough.

Sunweb scraping the bottom of the barrel aa expected...

 

[Alexandre B.]

Enrico Battaglin (LottoNL) joins Katusha-Alpecin.
https://twitter.com/katushacycling/status/1034747135747653633

 

[Red Rick]

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Enrico Battaglin (LottoNL) joins Katusha-Alpecin.
https://twitter.com/katushacycling/status/1034747135747653633

Interesting. Didn't know Batta's contract was up, and with how many new riders LottoNL was signing, it makes sense to let Batta go. With the depth LottoNL are creating uphill a punchy stage hunter isn't that valuable anymore.

 

[King Boonen]

Re: Re:

Sunweb is a much better development team than EF at least. Maybe they could do something with Dombrowski.

Then again, not many like to be in the constraints of Sunweb which is why a lot of riders seem to leave the team after 1/2 years

What constraints do Sunweb have ???

Surely they are not a constrained as SKY where every minute of the race is planned

Sunweb actually has a quite comparable 'scientific' approach to cycling as Sky have. Some Sunweb riders mentioned that their nutritional program is probably even more advanced than it is at Team Sky. Laurens Ten Dam mentioned in his podcast that, during the TDF, he is basically ordered to eat a certain amount of nuts at a certain time each evening. :lol:

Gosh.....em...diets do not always work the same for everyone so not sure about that approach

I would guess that by diet they just mean a nutritional plan tailored to a specific rider. In that case we all have a diet.

 

[staubsauger]

Well, Dombrowski knows this scientific training program only that now executed by persons with competence rather than Vaughters it might actually work out for him the first time.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Re:

It’s not Kangert his fault Fuglsang is a very mediocre GT-rider, why would anyone work for a guy who practically gets dropped on every single occasion of importance? Now please stop this utterly tedious discussion and let’s talk about transfers.

Seems like the first Aqua Blue rider to find a new team is Shane Archbold, who would join Lotto Jumbo’s sprinting train.

Good signing. Archbold lost his spot on Bora, where he was Bennett’s final leadout, because of a season long injury. He showed he was healthy again at Aquablue, but didn’t accomplish that much largely because Aquablue didn’t have anyone notably faster than him for him to help. He will be useful to Groenewegen and strengthening the train sends Groenewegen a message that he’s not being forgotten about with their stronger GC focus. LottoNL are a very well managed team these days (not something anyone would have said about them for many years)

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Roche and Dombrowski is a significant upgrade on Geschke, who Sunweb lost. They still don’t have a “super domestique” level climber who will be there when there are seven or eight guys left, but they do have the rest of a Tour contenders team now.

 

[wouterkaas]

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Roche and Dombrowski is a significant upgrade on Geschke, who Sunweb lost. They still don’t have a “super domestique” level climber who will be there when there are seven or eight guys left, but they do have the rest of a Tour contenders team now.

Could be Oomen or Kelderman as domestique for Dumoulin