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Salvarani said:
With Ala staying, Im assuming some of the others will be on their way. Everybody wont stay out of Gilbert, Mas, Viviani and so on.
Can't see Gilbert leaving. He's on a small contract with big bonusses in case he wins and gets complete freedom in a strong team. Movistar is supposedly trying to sign Mas, and Viviani... he lacks the class of some of the other "big" sprinters, and knows DQS is his best bet to win big races and he is still no1 in the pecking order at DQS with only Jakobsen coming closer. Can't see Hodeg moving up to that level anytime soon.

So, Mas moving, would be the most logical. On the other hand, i could see DQS trying their best to keep him, since he fills a gap in their lineup.

PedroMonteiro said:
https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/deze-zes-toptalenten-staan-in-het-vizier-van-jumbo-visma/

If Jumbo Visma signs Bjerg, Donovan, Arensman, Foss and Maciejuk are good contractions.
Foss, Arensman and Donovan are mountain mens.
Bjerg and Maciejuk are men for ITT
Loss Andreas Leknessund for Team Sunweb.

Pretty sure Jumbo won't be the only team to have its eye on guys like Bjerg.

As for Arensman... you claim he's a guy for the mountains. While he rode a great Avenir, he hasn't been able to confirm his status as a top climber. Both in Isard, Circuit des Ardennes and Tour de Bretagne this season, he got outclimbed by climbers his age and a lot younger. Last year, prior to l'Avenir, he was nowhere in Tour Alsace and guys his age were ahead by dozens of minutes.

And then he also finishes third in Paris Roubaix U23... I simply have no idea what kind of rider this guy will become. He is a "decent" CX rider, but nothing special either, but his 2nd place in l'Avenir and 3rd in PR, does show he has serious potential... But looking at all his results, i'm just not sure what to think.
 
Arensmann had injury problems at the start of the road season and was therefore not in a really good form. Was working for teammates etc. Isard was the first race where he was back in a form to make an impact on the race and was the most important helper for Schelling who finished 6th. Wouldn't be surprised to see him at the front tomorrow in Roubaix and also at the Giro.
 
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WKA311 said:
Arensmann had injury problems at the start of the road season and was therefore not in a really good form. Was working for teammates etc. Isard was the first race where he was back in a form to make an impact on the race and was the most important helper for Schelling who finished 6th. Wouldn't be surprised to see him at the front tomorrow in Roubaix and also at the Giro.

I see. Yet, apart from l'Avenir, he hasn't had a real result in climbing stage races the past two years. So, it's not just this season, but last season prior to l'Avenir as well.

So, i'm not really questioning his talent, but rather wondering what he'll excell at. Not often will the same rider finish top 3 in both l'Avenir and Paris Roubaix.
 
Salvarani said:
With Ala staying, Im assuming some of the others will be on their way. Everybody wont stay out of Gilbert, Mas, Viviani and so on.

As Gilbert is near the end of his career, it's likely he'll stay, plus as someone else said his contract is based largely on bonuses. Plus he has a lot of freedom.

The one I expect to leave is Mas and very likely to Movistar.
 
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carapaz won the GIRO and a beautiful contract for the next few years either in the movistar or in any other team, plus a name to move the market.
 
Why would Jumo-Visma want Kittel when they have Groenewegen, who is younger, better at this point, and also Dutch.

Also, Carapaz only at 150.000 now is a huge mistake and Movistar should have extended and increased that long ago.

The thing I don't understand is if he's really that close to signing for 1.5 million that amount of money must have been on the table before he won the Giro. So unless that happened on like the 2nd rest day Ineos is just throwing insane money around.
 
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Red Rick said:
Why would Jumo-Visma want Kittel when they have Groenewegen, who is younger, better at this point, and also Dutch.

Strange signing. Unless they signed him to be a super leadout man or something but I doubt Kittel would want that. Unlike Groenewegen Kittel usually needs a proper leadout like he had in Quickstep, I doubt he can get it at Jumbo Visma.
 
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Red Rick said:
Why would Jumo-Visma want Kittel when they have Groenewegen, who is younger, better at this point, and also Dutch.
Why not if they can sign him up for a relatively small amount of money? It isn't a big problem to have two main sprinters, they can split the races between them. And I think it would be good for Kittel's mental state to have someone else collecting many wins to take the pressure off him. I guess Van Poppel wouldn't be too happy though.

Also, Carapaz only at 150.000 now is a huge mistake and Movistar should have extended and increased that long ago.

The thing I don't understand is if he's really that close to signing for 1.5 million that amount of money must have been on the table before he won the Giro. So unless that happened on like the 2nd rest day Ineos is just throwing insane money around.
Well, they've had an almost 50% budget increase (30-35M to 47M €) so they've got some money to spend.
 
Fingers crossed he has a good rethink - before he won the Giro he was probably assuming he'd usually have shared leadership, or be a domestique with some chances to ride for himself. Surely Movi will now offer him sole leadership in his races along with a much larger pay offer. (And if they don't they're stupid.) At any rate he won't get that same degree of freedom in the crowded pecking order at Ineos, he might get some GTs, but not guaranteed to be sole leader. Being a national hero in Equador probably means he won't have to worry so much about money, so a decent upped wage should be more important than Ineos pay with less opportunies.
 
Bennett extends with Bora according to Lefevere. Alaphilippe insisted on keeping Devenyns. Bernaudeau rumours were nonsense.

Negotations with Viviani, Lampaert, Stybar, Gilbert and Mas are yet to start and Lefevere is aware he'll probably have to let one of these guys go.
It's very likely they'll sign a bunch of youngsters to meet the required 27riders.
 
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jaylew said:
Breh said:
Bennett extends with Bora according to Lefevere.
What? Where's he hearing that? I thought Bennett was sure to leave.

He has been there for a long time and seems to be happy. He is winning races with them. Its no guarantee he will be able to do that elsewhere.

More money and being the top guy in another team, also means a lot of pressure to perform at that level. Grass isnt always greener, ask Kittel.
 
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Breh said:
Bennett extends with Bora according to Lefevere. Alaphilippe insisted on keeping Devenyns. Bernaudeau rumours were nonsense.

Negotations with Viviani, Lampaert, Stybar, Gilbert and Mas are yet to start and Lefevere is aware he'll probably have to let one of these guys go.
It's very likely they'll sign a bunch of youngsters to meet the required 27riders.

If the total budget does not increase thats only logical. Until now Alaphilippe was paid like a solid rider. But since 2018 he has won 21 races including a monument and a jersey at the Tour. So he'll be paid like the superstar he has become. And that takes away from multiple other riders. It will be very interesting who they keep and who'll have to move on.
Gilbert wont cost much. His base salary was low the whole time, he just has high incentives IF he wins monuments. So he will not get a lot of money if he does not win San Remo in 2020. Mas on the other hand will be even more expensive than Alaphilippe. Not his own salary but the addition of 3-4 climbers to help him while you dont really need a lot of people for Alafpolak. Just bring him to the last 40 kilometers of a race he targets and he's good to go (like Sagan).

My bet is on Viviani (and Richeze for that matter) to be out. Cavendish left after 3 years, Kittel after 2, Gaviria after 3 and they already renewed with Jakobsen and Hodeg. Add the fact that Viviani did not win a single stage at the Giro and you figure they'll spend that money elsewhere.
 
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LaFlorecita said:
PedroMonteiro said:
https://twitter.com/faustocoppi60/status/1135471678207778817

Gazzetta dello Sport: Richard Carapaz has a contract of 150.000 €/year at Movistar in 2019. He's close to sign a 3 year contract with Team Ineos for at least 1.5 million €/year
:rolleyes: Good for him I suppose

You have to keep in mind that this is a short career, there's Tax advantages to being paid by a UK based team and the tenfold increase in salary is a great help. You have to make as much money as you can at the peak of your earning potential, which Richard is set to do here. It's his career at the end of the day.
 
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MatParker117 said:
LaFlorecita said:
PedroMonteiro said:
https://twitter.com/faustocoppi60/status/1135471678207778817

Gazzetta dello Sport: Richard Carapaz has a contract of 150.000 €/year at Movistar in 2019. He's close to sign a 3 year contract with Team Ineos for at least 1.5 million €/year
:rolleyes: Good for him I suppose

You have to keep in mind that this is a short career, there's Tax advantages to being paid by a UK based team and the tenfold increase in salary is a great help. You have to make as much money as you can at the peak of your earning potential, which Richard is set to do here. It's his career at the end of the day.
Seriously?

That is a brilliant way to *** up a sport.
 

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