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I am hearing all sorts of rumours surrounding Contador, right at the moment.
Marcha says he's definitely off from Astana, with Caisse as the favourites to sign.
However, Liquigas have just waded in, with a massive deal. (according to them)
Just thinking of that Tour team would give a certain Texan, sleepless nights.

Another "reliable" source, has Garmin, back to the fore, which of course, in turn would free up Bradley for Sky..........

Never mind chess on wheels, it's pretty much as complicated, out of the saddle.
 
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Mellow Velo said:
I am hearing all sorts of rumours surrounding Contador, right at the moment.
Marcha says he's definitely off from Astana, with Caisse as the favourites to sign.
However, Liquigas have just waded in, with a massive deal. (according to them)
Just thinking of that Tour team would give a certain Texan, sleepless nights.

Another "reliable" source, has Garmin, back to the fore, which of course, in turn would free up Bradley for Sky..........

Never mind chess on wheels, it's pretty much as complicated, out of the saddle.

WOW LIQ... they could then become the dominating team Astana never was ... ;)
 
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WOW LIQ... they could then become the dominating team Astana never was ... ;)

Cant see the Liguigas mix working they already have too many leaders for Grand Tours that cant work together either in the sprints or overall.
 
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cyclingmad said:
Cant see the Liguigas mix working they already have too many leaders for Grand Tours that cant work together either in the sprints or overall.

If you discount Kreuziger and his "I'm awesome and everyone else sucks. I refuse to work for others" outbursts, I'd say everyone else has gotten along well so far :)

Then again, with Bennati on the squad, after the stunts he pulled at Lampre, I'd be weary of squad harmony too. Perhaps you're on to something here.
 
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If you discount Kreuziger and his "I'm awesome and everyone else sucks. I refuse to work for others" outbursts, I'd say everyone else has gotten along well so far :)

I like Kreuziger....sure a little head strong..young...good rider. I think they all get along pretty well really.
 
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They quote HLN as source. The same HLN who reported Wiggins to sky way back before Wiggins said he wasn't going to sky.

LONDON - Bradley Wiggins is the new leader of the brand new British Sky Team. The number four of the last Tour has long maintained contacts with the new bins ProTour format, but has finally cut the Gordian knot.
Wiggins still rides for Garmin and will from next year to spearhead the Sky Team rounds are large. Besides Wiggins also affirmed Edvald Boasson Hagen (Team Columbia) and our compatriot Serge Pauwels (Cervelo) their transition to the very rich team of Dave Brailsford and Scott Sunderland. (HLN)

but it does look like a rehash of old news... Aint google translate great..
 
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issoisso said:
They quote HLN as source. The same HLN who reported Wiggins to sky way back before Wiggins said he wasn't going to sky.

I saw that. Sportwereld.nl (AD) has revamped their website and the 2 are now indistinguishable. I don't know if it's true though, especially because it's not (yet) on HLN and it's somewhere in the middle of sportwereld.nl... If it was big news, it should have made at least a head line.

The time is off too. It's about 14:06 now and the article is supposed to be published at 10/09/09 15u29


EDIT> the article from HLN is
HERE and was published the 31 of Aug...
 
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LONDON - Bradley Wiggins is the new leader of the brand new British Sky Team. The number four of the last Tour has long maintained contacts with the new bins ProTour format, but has finally cut the Gordian knot.
Wiggins still rides for Garmin and will from next year to spearhead the Sky Team rounds are large. Besides Wiggins also affirmed Edvald Boasson Hagen (Team Columbia) and our compatriot Serge Pauwels (Cervelo) their transition to the very rich team of Dave Brailsford and Scott Sunderland. (HLN)

but it does look like a rehash of old news... Aint google translate great..

My source says the Contador deal to Garmin is done. 3 more days.
 
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Astana have major problems finding the money to pay for the 2010 ProTour license.

As such they are letting Contador leave for a much smaller break of contract fee than they previously were asking for.

Basically he won't stay there under any circumstances.
 
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issoisso said:
Astana have major problems finding the money to pay for the 2010 ProTour license.

As such they are letting Contador leave for a much smaller break of contract fee than they previously were asking for.

Basically he won't stay there under any circumstances.

All the pieces of the puzzle fall in place.

Wiggins to Sky
Contador to Garmin
Money to Astana for PT status

Is that a correct summary of events perhaps?
 
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How dumb is this? Why even single out Cummings and Froome? Doesn't make any sense. If one were to take your standards seriously, Brailsford would have had to fill his team with neo-pros exclusively.

About as dumb as the folks banging on about how high Brailsford was setting the bar. They're not "my standards."

But if it'll make you feel better, I'll also call out Garmin for hiring Robbie Hunter.
 
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filipo said:
About as dumb as the folks banging on about how high Brailsford was setting the bar. They're not "my standards."

But if it'll make you feel better, I'll also call out Garmin for hiring Robbie Hunter.

They made the Dekkers mistake last year. This year they're making the Hunter mistake. They're failing to learn from past history.
 
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They made the Dekkers mistake last year. This year they're making the Hunter mistake. They're failing to learn from past history.

Explain the Hunter mistake. This guy wins at least 1 race a year and is as clean as they come!
 
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sprinter said:
Explain the Hunter mistake. This guy wins at least 1 race a year and is as clean as they come!

1 race a year for the salary he no doubt commands is pretty awful

As for the clean comment, you can't guarantee any currently riding cyclist is clean or that any is doping, so that's completely irrelevant ;)
And if it were relevant, it would not be a discussion for this forum
 
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dimspace said:
EBH Is going to dominate the sport like nobody has in twenty years.. Hes that good.. and i would stake my hat on it..

now. .to other transfer news..

You know, I have to agree with that. The guy is a beast and even when marked, can still pull off the win and hammer everyone into the ground doing it. I am a big fan.
 
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You know, I have to agree with that. The guy is a beast and even when marked, can still pull off the win and hammer everyone into the ground doing it. I am a big fan.

The thing that so awesome about him is that he always seem to deliver. If he's in a break with other riders he'l almost always the one that takes the sprint. Normally when you see a break it's quite clear who the best sprinter ought to be but so does everyone else so they get watched and outmaneuvered but that happens very rarely with EBH.

The only one that is equally consistent is Cavendish who does get helped by his lead out alot but still perfoms very consistently when it's time for him to start his sprint.
 
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filipo said:
About as dumb as the folks banging on about how high Brailsford was setting the bar. They're not "my standards."
Yes they are.

Cummings isn't Hincapie or Popovych, he has never been part of the Bruyneel-Armstrong entourage. If you're not capable of making such distinctions, then why aren't you mentioning the Columbia riders? The guy who has been with Bjarne Riis for six years? The Rabobank guy? The Liquigas guy, an ex-teammate of Di Luca and Paolini? The Cervelo guys (because, let's face it, Bjarne Riis' team used to ride Cervelos)?
 
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samb01 said:
Yes they are.

Cummings isn't Hincapie or Popovych, he has never been part of the Bruyneel-Armstrong entourage. If you're not capable of making such distinctions, then why aren't you mentioning the Columbia riders? The guy who has been with Bjarne Riis for six years? The Rabobank guy? The Liquigas guy, an ex-teammate of Di Luca and Paolini? The Cervelo guys (because, let's face it, Bjarne Riis' team used to ride Cervelos)?

I can make plenty of distinctions. Go back upthread and read all the praise and amazement for Brailsford's standards.

While you're at it, tell me about the in-house antidoping measures Cervelo has.
 
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