Tygart, Vaughters and Landis LIVE!

[martinvickers]

Still don't know anybody can't answer why Tygart won't reveal the mystery person who tried to give them $250K, or whatever that vague number is he keeps saying/changes. His latest comment/revelation after Lance's confession is he told 60 minutes Sports that "the Feds know who the person is, I told them." What?!?! The Feds dropped their case. It doesn't matter who told you this information. The Feds aren't going to need/use that info for anything likely, if so, just another name against him. So just tell us already Tygart...stop hiding, or lying.

1. The USADA process is ongoing re: Bruyneel etc - that alone is good reason not to give full public disclosure.

2. And the FEDS just rejoined the case. Hint; there are more than one group of Feds.

 

[Race Radio]

Yet, Lance was the "inventor" and creator of doping?

Nobody has said this.

 

[horsinabout]

Who does ****ing Floyd ****ing Landis think he is? Lance Armstrong has taken up anti-doping now, and as soon as they form an international truth and reconstipation committee, he will be at the forefront of cleaning up cycling. He will head the dope clean-up for more years than any other dope cleaner-uper in the history of the sport. Cancer. Floyd Landis...whatever.

Lance Armstrong to clean up cycling? Thats like asking Charles Manson to clean up Bedlam.

 

[blackcat]

Lance Armstrong to clean up cycling? Thats like asking Charles Manson to clean up Bedlam.

only cleaning up was Lance at Austin City Limits pre-ban with the underage groupies

 

[horsinabout]

ThoughTFF should we really parrot this "policy" of Brailsford without heavily sarcastic apostrophes?

zero________
____tolerance
____________policy

<heavily sarcastic> apostrophe "zero tolerance policy" /sarcasm.

caveat:
i) unless you are British and are part of British Cycling
ii) unless you can win the Tour and are British
iii) unless you have a sound network with degrees of separation and a plausible deniability strategy to invoke when a crisis hits

Its BS that they talk about a Zero Tolerance, more like Zero Dark Thirty torture enemy prisoners. If Wiggins can win the Tour, and they can use Murdoch to spout this Orwellian dopecyclespeak, then we are all the idiots GW Bush talked about when he spoke of getting fooled his second occasion.

Brailsford, you suck.

you also look like Golem in LOTR.

you should have been knighted, Sir Lancelot.

Hoy, Brailford, Wiggins, and soon to be Cavendish.

Will be the Four Horsemen taking equine steroids like nandrolone until the Apocalypse and Cancer Jesus comes in with the rapture.

/tortured metaphor extraordinary rendered

This is a good effort...four horsemen of the apocalypse, prefixed with you look like Golem in LOTR...the imagary!

DB gave the Queen the quits when she chopped into his sholders with her sword.

And they call me a joke on this forum.

 

[Fatclimber]

I don't care about Lance.
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Yet, Lance was the "inventor" and creator of doping? When we all know he isn't. We could make the same claim you made about Lance with pretty much every winner during that era of most races. Most have admitted, or were busted for doping at one point or another.

So, let's get off the Lance is the Devil thing already, and get down to the jist of the matter, most of the sport for a long time was corrupt and dirty. Lay down the criticism to all involved.
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Nobody will take you seriously if you apply different standards to different people. Then the bias to take down Lance is even more glaring. When there are 100 people in line behind him that should be taken down also for life.

That is what many don't apparent get when I write these things. It isn't about Lance, get over it...it is about the entire dirty sport, and all involved with making it that way.
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Still don't know anybody can't answer why Tygart won't reveal the mystery person who tried to give them $250K, or whatever that vague number is he keeps saying/changes. His latest comment/revelation after Lance's confession is he told 60 minutes Sports that "the Feds know who the person is, I told them." What?!?! The Feds dropped their case. It doesn't matter who told you this information. The Feds aren't going to need/use that info for anything likely, if so, just another name against him. So just tell us already Tygart...stop hiding, or lying.

Please continue to explain how you don't care about lance.

 

[RobbieCanuck]

I don't care about Lance.

Why is it OK for Landis, Vaughters to go about the World now, proclaim the culture was the reason for the doping...

Still don't know anybody can't answer why Tygart won't reveal the mystery person who tried to give them $250K, or whatever that vague number is he keeps saying/changes. His latest comment/revelation after Lance's confession is he told 60 minutes Sports that "the Feds know who the person is, I told them." What?!?! The Feds dropped their case. It doesn't matter who told you this information. The Feds aren't going to need/use that info for anything likely, if so, just another name against him. So just tell us already Tygart...stop hiding, or lying.

You lead a pretty sheltered life. It was Tygart and not JV/FL who really led the discussion about the culture of doping in cycling and how transferrable it was to the Chinese system.

Furthermore, Tygart is a lawyer. No lawyer in their right mind is going to publicly out whoever it was offered USADA $250t. Lawyers are masters at not saying things so they don't get sued. Tygart did the right thing and told the appropriate authorities. To suggest he is hiding something is disengenuous. To suggest he was lying is absurd.

If you really want to know - phone LA.