UAE-Team Emirates thread

[staubsauger]

Mostly down to their signing a certain sprog for2019 and the squeezing out of the Italian crew, plus of course money.

Once the Saunier Duval crew took over from the old Lampre stuff it became a successful team.

Lefts you baffled how Saronni was able to unsuccessfully run a team for so many years. Because 20 years ago Lampre even had a decent budget.

 

[Unchained]

UAE neo-pros are having a really good season

- Christen 3 wins
- Del Toro 3 wins plus top10 in several World Tour stage races
- Morgado 3 wins plus fifth in Flanders

Only Arrieta doesn't have a pro win yet, but he has been doing a very good domestique work in races like Itzulia.

Also the organization did some calculations by extending many contracts including Fisher-Black ,Del Toro and a few others and didn't give an encouraging thumbs up to Marc Hirschi , and he is certainly not an old man at 25..

 

[Valv.Piti]

Once the Saunier Duval crew took over from the old Lampre stuff it became a successful team.

Lefts you baffled how Saronni was able to unsuccessfully run a team for so many years. Because 20 years ago Lampre even had a decent budget.

I remember the glory days of Lampre with Cunego, Ballan, Bennati and Scarponi.

Where have all the good Italian riders gone??

 

[Squire]

UAE scouting department is second to none.

I'm a bit tired of reading this everywhere. They just have the most money, so they can afford to buy all the youngsters that everyone can see are the biggest talents. But for some reason Matxin is lauded as this genious 'scout'.

 

[staubsauger]

I remember the glory days of Lampre with Cunego, Ballan, Bennati and Scarponi.

Where have all the good Italian riders gone??

Those were glory days?

That's what UAE archives with their 2nd & 3rd fiddles.

Even Savio arguably had better archivements with Rujano & Co if we take the budget into consideration.

 

[Squire]

I dont disagree or emphasizes the importance of money in various situations cash is always king.

But they still clearly buy many very young and the hitrate is still nevertheless very impressive so some sort of influence is def there for sure.

Just like any other team signing the best youngsters, there's usually a Camilo Ardila, Alex Riabushenko or Cristian Muñoz for every Pogacar, Ayuso or Morgado. They don't do anything different to Team Sky when they were the big dogs and signing Sivakov, Bernal, Halvorsen etc.

 

[Squire]

Ofc im not trying to hype Matxin but more so state the situation of affairs. Ineos also kinda good at that I think. I think Ineos have more top tier talents than anyone else besides UAE.

Point is also with cash alone job not done as Kobe would say. But your not wrong.

I'll give them credit for being quite good at developing their youngsters once they have them. The points-hunting in smaller races seems to be a good way of introducing them to the pro peloton while letting them taste some leadership early on. Team Sky wasn't always as successful doing that, though I think they did a better job than they sometimes got credit for.

 

[staubsauger]

Matxin seems to be good with developing young guns and has a reputation to be able to handle controverse characters (Ricco, Cobo, Ayuso).

Ineos can't do none of this. Even Tao left them.

 

[Offline]

Isaac del Toro is the best GC talent under 20
Jan Christen is the best ardennes classics talent under 20
Antonio Morgado is the best cobbled classics talent under 20

All on UAE... that crazy

 

[SafeBet]

Isaac del Toro is the best GC talent under 20
Jan Christen is the best ardennes classics talent under 20
Antonio Morgado is the best cobbled classics talent under 20

All on UAE... that crazy

None of them is under 20 but ok.

 

[Offline]

None of them is under 20 but ok.

All 20, So yes you can say that.

 

[Cookster15]

It took a while for them to get their act together but as of 2024 UAE are indisputably the best team by the strength and depth of talent they have. In the Tour UAE had three of the top ten in Nice and won the teams competition by 31 minutes ahead of the previous TdF kings Visma.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Widar likes Lotto. Lots of room for to rise up the ranks there. I don't think he's keen on the domestique role, and that's what he'd be doing for awhile at UAE/Visma/Soudal.
But other teams will make a play: Ineos, Bora...but a Belgian team would have an advantage I suspect.

 

[Landeirovic]

26 july and 60e win For Uae. What is the all time record?

 

[Offline]

26 july and 60e win For Uae. What is the all time record?

72 wins by Quick Step in 2018.

UAE will break that record.
Also remember the 60 wins right now is without any wins from sprinters.

 

[Landeirovic]

72 wins by Quick Step in 2018.

UAE will break that record.
Also remember the 60 wins right now is without any wins from sprinters.

HTC in 2009 had 86 wins.

 

[elguapo]

Do Ayuso and CRod have the same agent? if they have, he could initiate a possible trade : CRod to UAE and Juan to Ineos.

 

[Offline]

Do Ayuso and CRod have the same agent? if they have, he could initiate a possible trade : CRod to UAE and Juan to Ineos.

I don't know, but I like the idea.

 

[Offline]

Has Covi had problems with illness and injuries last 2 year?
It's kind of weird how bad his last 2 years has been, after winning on Passo Fedaia he has been nowhere.

 

[SafeBet]

Has Covi had problems with illness and injuries last 2 year?
It's kind of weird how bad his last 2 years has been, after winning on Passo Fedaia he has been nowhere.

Yes he's always ill but at this point I'm not entirely sure that's the main problem.

 

[Offline]

Yes he's always ill but at this point I'm not entirely sure that's the main problem.

I can see you're italien, what's the talk in italy about him?

 

[SafeBet]

I can see you're italien, what's the talk in italy about him?

There's really no talk about him.
At least with Piccolo you had the roller coaster experience and some clinic related rumors.

Covi is just a guy who had a very promising couple of years after turning pro and then completely disappeared. I know he's well liked inside the team and by many of his teammates. And I know he was supposed to ride a Hirschi-like calendar this year to help him find his mojo, but it's not working out.

He had mononucleosis last year and has suffered from Achilles / knee issues until this May, don't know whether we should expect some better results going forward.

 

[Offline]

If UAE wins La Vuelta, they will have won all WT races in Spain this year.

 

[velaso montador]

UAE won so much this year. Stages in GT, one day races etc. How good is their season up untill now historically? They have won so many stages, one day races its almost the norm, points wice how good are their season up untill now?

 

[Squire]

UAE won so much this year. Stages in GT, one day races etc. How good is their season up untill now historically? They have won so many stages, one day races its almost the norm, points wice how good are their season up untill now?

Looking at one metric: They have the third highest CQ team score ever already, and the season isn't even close to being finished. They need 200 or so more points to have the second highest CQ score ever, overtaking Visma from last year. And they're missing only 1800 points to beat their own CQ score record from last year.