UCI Gravel World Championships 2023, October 7-8, Italy

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When you did the one day, did you stash water?
Our wives were doing a three day and they stashed water in a couple spots for us and then we did the one day the day they finished and then stayed a few more days in Moab. I'm very familiar with everything in that neck of the woods. My wife's from Grand Junction. Been going out that way for years. PM me if you have any questions about anything.
 
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Our wives were doing a three day and they stashed water in a couple spots for us and then we did the one day the day they finished and then stayed a few more days in Moab. I'm very familiar with everything in that neck of the woods. My wife's from Grand Junction. Been going out that way for years. PM me if you have any questions about anything.
I was just going to say I would PM you about that. A friend and I want to do it (maybe others), and water is obviously the biggest concern if we're going to try it without commercial support, which may be the route we take, depending on who wants to do it.
 
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Our wives were doing a three day and they stashed water in a couple spots for us and then we did the one day the day they finished and then stayed a few more days in Moab. I'm very familiar with everything in that neck of the woods. My wife's from Grand Junction. Been going out that way for years. PM me if you have any questions about anything.
Good luck in Kansas!!
 
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That's a cool video. Impressive how vital positioning is. Though, Valverde did manage to get up to fourth.
 
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I'm not asking to try and start an argument, but what gravel races have you done? I ask because I feel there are just a bunch of assumptions from people that watch bike racing and don't or never have raced. Not you specifically.
Can't you ask that in every thread?
 
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Can't you ask that in every thread?
You could, in fact, ask the equivalent in every forum for every sport. How many keyboard warriors (as well as paid commentators) that make assumptions, predictions, “expert” analysis about NFL games ever played pro or collegiate football? Why would that be any different in a cycling forum?
 
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I think this ends the discussion about bike path world championships from some moaners here :)
Yeah, I was wondering, too… I rather thought that Gravel is about riding over „strade bianche“, stopping from time to time, drinking red wine, smoking cigarettes, and taking photos of nice landscapes… :)

I had no idea that this is so hectic… It reminds me of MTB races, somehow…
 
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Can't you ask that in every thread?
This has me with a really really wide smile.. So the answer to my every cycling event in @8 years.. What gravel events have you done? And the real answer is, I have found that tequila and beer post event, as well as my signature bacon lettuce and tomato sandwich after the event make an almost perfect day. Combined with great people and plenty of funny conversations, bike events of most kinds are typically excellent.
With gravel, it's become apparent now that I am paying attention, because I wasn't before, the place that I am at, the event I am participating in, could do without if I had to is actually a life or death, means everything, trained for , would sacrifice a limb or family member race for many people. Don't know about Europe but in the US we are rapidly approaching the crossroads where the event needs to be clearly, deadly clear that it is a RACE or it's a fun event open to everyone, all ability and ages and acting like it's a race is strongly discouraged.
The promoters of the events have not probably thought making the distinction between fun and race was important. Easy solution is separate events or significant staggering start times... Sort of reminds me of the guy geared up on a $10,000 TT bike, complete w aero helmet, screaming " on your right " and making angry hand gestures and yelling obscenities at a fun ride to raise money for breast cancer.. We all know the guy..gravel is there.. Like the song says..
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1jOk8dk-qaU&pp=ygUbb2Zmc3ByaW5nIGtlZXAgZW0gc2VwYXJhdGVk
 
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Wow pretty hectic racing. An Valverde saying "Loco" :D
Yes these races always start with a crazy cyclocross-style sprint where mayhem constantly looms. Then after some selective section everything typically settles down into a continuous grind with rider by rider slowly but surely dropping off. This is the core that makes gravel so lovely!

Ps. Couldn’t help to laugh a little but I am very glad that I am not a pro rider and have to endure this kind of craziness. Ps ps kudos to the rider with the camera. His overtaking skills in the beginning are something extraordinary
 
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Tom Pidcock just got 25th at Little Sugar 100k...Kegan Swenson got 1st...tell me again how the WT pros will dominate races here, again...
He also came 36th at the mtb Olympics test event, no chance next year I guess.
Seriously I really rate Swenson, but Pidcock started his holiday after winning Mont st Anne.
 
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He also came 36th at the mtb Olympics test event, no chance next year I guess.
Seriously I really rate Swenson, but Pidcock started his holiday after winning Mont st Anne.
I'm a Pidcock fan, and know that if he took it seriously, he would dominate many of the races, though I do think Swenson has the talent to compete with any of them.

I'm just pointing out that no WT pro has won a major US gravel or Lifetime event, yet.
 
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Mark Cavendish came 126th in the final sprint stage in the Tour of Turkey yesterday: does that mean that he cannot win a sprint race ever?
One of m favorite pictures ever:
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I'm a Pidcock fan, and know that if he took it seriously, he would dominate many of the races, though I do think Swenson has the talent to compete with any of them.

I'm just pointing out that no WT pro has won a major US gravel or Lifetime event, yet.
I guess he flatted 4 or 5 times and finished with a different tire on his bike. A friend said that Pidcock passed him 3 different times.
 
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Just like to encourage people to look outside the very very limited and old school sponsorship model that has been used in organized bike racing for decades and know that there are racers and marginal riders posing as racers and media personalities that have embraced a new model and have figured out a way to monetize their participation in bike racing.
Their results and pedigree about even knowing what they are talking about, or little to zero knowledge of bike racing but still making money via social media.. More difficult around the road scene but in the US, Canada, Australia and other English speaking places this is a thing and gravel looks to have dozens of media personalities that are doing something similar.. not sure how I feel about all this but here is another item of gravel racing sub culture
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f1d8GiJOKKg&pp=ygUUcGVkYWxpbmcgdG8gZnJlZWRvbSA%3D
 
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Just like to encourage people to look outside the very very limited and old school sponsorship model that has been used in organized bike racing for decades and know that there are racers and marginal riders posing as racers and media personalities that have embraced a new model and have figured out a way to monetize their participation in bike racing.
Their results and pedigree about even knowing what they are talking about, or little to zero knowledge of bike racing but still making money via social media.. More difficult around the road scene but in the US, Canada, Australia and other English speaking places this is a thing and gravel looks to have dozens of media personalities that are doing something similar.. not sure how I feel about all this but here is another item of gravel racing sub culture
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f1d8GiJOKKg&pp=ygUUcGVkYWxpbmcgdG8gZnJlZWRvbSA%3D
A little over 31 years ago, after my first year of being clean and sober, I balled up a pack of Marlboros, threw it away, and bought a cheap road bike from the local shop. I started, not even being able to ride 3 miles. 32 clean and sober years later, I'm still riding. I'm not super fast, but I can still get on my bike and ride 7 hours, and it doesn't completely waste me to do so. I love riding my bike.
 

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How'd you do?
The BWR Kansas course was really fun. Hardly a flat section, cold and windy. Didn't have my best day on the bike, but pretty respectable for a nearing 50 yr old. The field size was pretty small. Probably didn't help that Little Sugar was the same weekend. A couple young guys that I have gotten to know due to their spending the majority of their time in Colorado going to school were 1st and 4th so the post race beers were fun.
 
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