UCI helped Froome with illegal(?) TUE at Romandie

[Semper Fidelis]

wonder who ordered her to close it.

Sad, I was looking forward to the entertainment. I guess dat da Dawg got after it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEM85QkihBw

 

[frenchfry]

Lets see:

1. rider that won race has TUE for otherwise banned substance. check
2. facts are leaked by the French press. check
3. rider has claimed never having any TUEs, performances are as clean as the driven snow. check
4. UCI official involved in according of TUE. check
5. UCI says everything is OK, everybody move on please. check
6. trolls abound to discredit any discussion about wrong doings. check

The big difference so far is that I haven't seen anything about TUE-holding rider making generous donations to UCI. Yet.

(Stolen from FrenchFry - http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1492874&postcount=193 )

After all the mindless drivel we have seen from the Hogster the past few weeks, I was thinking - brilliant post!

From your humble contributor.

 

[Benotti69]

So you agree with my assumption that Froome definitely did take the banned performance enhancing drugs that he received special dispensation from the UCI to use in the race with impunity, rather than just looked at them on the shelf?

Of course, Froome didn't take a steroid when sick and win the race convincingly and the UCI that federation that just ooozes credibility, transparency and a true sense of fair play.

What was it Brailsford said, 'We're pushing the guys to their limits, so we need to look after them. It's about genuine medical practice'

Did he mean pushing Henderson, pushing sick guys to win on steroids, taking grupetto fodder and pushing them onto podiums?......I dont think you'll find 'genuine medical practice' in professional sports, 'genuine malpractice' is the standard!

 

[thehog]

Of course, Froome didn't take a steroid when sick and win the race convincingly and the UCI that federation that just ooozes credibility, transparency and a true sense of fair play.



Did he mean pushing Henderson, pushing sick guys to win on steroids, taking grupetto fodder and pushing them onto podiums?......I dont think you'll find 'genuine medical practice' in professional sports, 'genuine malpractice' is the standard!

How come my cold & flu tablets don't let me do this?

 

[GreasyMonkey]

I'd prefer if Sky would show the transparency that keep claiming they have. It shouldn't be up to me or trash can digging French journalist to catch them out.

They should just be open & honest.

Not too much to ask?

Sounds like you'd prefer not to know about their cheating?

Ostrich, meet sand....

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Just for kicks, I looked up treatment for chest infection, on UK websites. By everything I can gather, nearly every physician will first try to determine how sick you are, then prescribe antibiotics if it is believed to be a bacterial infection. If a viral infection, antivirals may be given, though they are often less effective. It's often only when people are completely wiped out after a few days and other medications failed that they get steroids.

It's simply astounding that the average healthy person with a chest infection will have a fever, be coughing frequently including coughing up thick mucus, have very low energy, feel confused or disoriented even, and need a few days of bed rest. Chris Froom on the other hand is sick with this and wins one of the most premiere races on earth.

Too bad it looks like the UCI is changing things. Froom missed a great opportunity to get "sick" again in a short two weeks.

 

[thehog]

Just for kicks, I looked up treatment for chest infection, on UK websites. By everything I can gather, nearly every physician will first try to determine how sick you are, then prescribe antibiotics if it is believed to be a bacterial infection. If a viral infection, antivirals may be given, though they are often less effective. It's often only when people are completely wiped out after a few days and other medications failed that they get steroids.

It's simply astounding that the average healthy person with a chest infection will have a fever, be coughing frequently including coughing up thick mucus, have very low energy, feel confused or disoriented even, and need a few days of bed rest. Chris Froom on the other hand is sick with this and wins one of the most premiere races on earth.

Too bad it looks like the UCI is changing things. Froom missed a great opportunity to get "sick" again in a short two weeks.

Agree 100%.

The worrying part of all this is I believe Cookson is soft on doping.

Rogers we never found out the levels of Clen, we never even found out if the B-Sample was tested. Rogers didn't even appear to be worried about his situation. Tinkov didn't appear concerned either - Garmin styled 6 month ban?.

JTL has had his case pushed further and further out to be outside of the Tour window and we'll probably never hear from him again until some innocuous press release in the off season.

And now Froome was caught with his pants around his ankles and up to his eyeballs on Pren. Like you say he should have been bed ridden and using a high grade steroid to kill the infection so he'd be able to at least stand up and later get back to training. But no he's prescribed the drug by the same guy who's fingerprints are over some of the biggest dopers in history and Froome smashed the field in half!

In fact Froome was so strong he counter attacked Nibali 27km from the end of the stage. He got so far in front, Froome sat up and waited for Spilak and they rode in together.

All that in the cold and rain! with a severe chest infection and acute asthma.

The worse part was when the story broke the UCI rather than investigate the issue rushed out a defensive statement without taking note that the Froome didn't just finish mid pack but blew the race apart. And since that point Cookson has shut down all dialogue on the matter.

Nothing has changed.

 

[froooome]

You can find almost everything you like from web, e.g. this one:

Short-term use of steroids

In the short-term, oral steroids are important to treat an attack of asthma or COPD. In this situation, your doctor may tell you to take the tablets for between one and three weeks.

If you have frequent asthma or COPD attacks, ask your doctor or health care professional about the benefits of having a standby course of steroids on hand that you can take at the early signs of an attack.

If you have COPD, lung attacks are often due to a chest infection, so oral steroid therapy may be combined with antibiotics.

http://www.blf.org.uk/Page/Steroids

Anyways, all the speculation in this particular case is pointless, no rules are violated by Sky. End of story.

Btw, have you guys thought what will give you the motivation to get up from bed if top form bertie beats froomey in the Tour? For your mental health I honestly wish froomey beats bertie. Hard

 

[armchairclimber]

Agree 100%.

The worrying part of all this is I believe Cookson is soft on doping.

Rogers we never found out the levels of Clen, we never even found out if the B-Sample was tested. Rogers didn't even appear to be worried about his situation. Tinkov didn't appear concerned either - Garmin styled 6 month ban?.

JTL has had his case pushed further and further out to be outside of the Tour window and we'll probably never hear from him again until some innocuous press release in the off season.

And now Froome was caught with his pants around his ankles and up to his eyeballs on Pren. Like you say he should have been bed ridden and using a high grade steroid to kill the infection so he'd be able to at least stand up and later get back to training. But no he's prescribed the drug by the same guy who's fingerprints are over some of the biggest dopers in history and Froome smashed the field in half!

In fact Froome was so strong he counter attacked Nibali 27km from the end of the stage. He got so far in front, Froome sat up and waited for Spilak and they rode in together.

All that in the cold and rain! with a severe chest infection and acute asthma.

The worse part was when the story broke the UCI rather than investigate the issue rushed out a defensive statement without taking note that the Froome didn't just finish mid pack but blew the race apart. And since that point Cookson has shut down all dialogue on the matter.

Nothing has changed.

Whilst agreeing with the general thrust, a point of order: Pred does not kill infection. It is actually suppresses the immune system. It would be used to mitigate an asthma attack whilst Froome had a chest infection.

He shouldn't have been riding.

 

[veganrob]

You can find almost everything you like from web, e.g. this one:



http://www.blf.org.uk/Page/Steroids

Anyways, all the speculation in this particular case is pointless, no rules are violated by Sky. End of story.

Btw, have you guys thought what will give you the motivation to get up from bed if top form bertie beats froomey in the Tour? For your mental health I honestly wish froomey beats bertie. Hard

So he was also taking antibiotics then? Didn't hear that

 

[froooome]

So he was also taking antibiotics then? Didn't hear that

Oh, then he obviously wasn't taking them. Thanks for point that out.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Our riders are clean.

There is nothing to see here.

 

[the sceptic]

You can find almost everything you like from web, e.g. this one:



http://www.blf.org.uk/Page/Steroids

Anyways, all the speculation in this particular case is pointless, no rules are violated by Sky. End of story.

Btw, have you guys thought what will give you the motivation to get up from bed if top form bertie beats froomey in the Tour? For your mental health I honestly wish froomey beats bertie. Hard

You are ok with Froome taking advantage of loopholes in the UCI to get an unfair advantage? How do you think Spilak felt when he found out that he was beaten by a man on horse steroids? If I was him, I would demand that Froome gets removed from the lists, especially now that UCI have admitted they made a mistake.

 

[Afrank]

You can find almost everything you like from web, e.g. this one:



http://www.blf.org.uk/Page/Steroids

Anyways, all the speculation in this particular case is pointless, no rules are violated by Sky. End of story.

Btw, have you guys thought what will give you the motivation to get up from bed if top form bertie beats froomey in the Tour? For your mental health I honestly wish froomey beats bertie. Hard

It's not so much about breaking any rules IMO. But more about if he was sick enough to require steroids then he shouldn't have been racing in the first place.

And it certainly doesn't do any good for Froome credibility that he was doing over 6.0 watts while on steroids for being sick.

 

[froooome]

You are ok with Froome taking advantage of loopholes in the UCI to get an unfair advantage? How do you think Spilak felt when he found out that he was beaten by a man on horse steroids? If I was him, I would demand that Froome gets removed from the lists, especially now that UCI have admitted they made a mistake.

Well, Spilak was able to follow horse steroid froomey in the mountain stage, just like last year. Horse steroi froomey beat Martin by one second in a relatively short TT and Martin was able to beat Sergeant only by 8 seconds.

But sure you can interpret the results as you like.

 

[the sceptic]

Well, Spilak was able to follow horse steroid froomey in the mountain stage, just like last year. Horse steroi froomey beat Martin by one second in a relatively short TT and Martin was able to beat Sergeant only by 8 seconds.

But sure you can interpret the results as you like.

If I was a sky fan, I would be a bit upset if I found out that my favourite and so called clean rider was found to have cheated his way to win a stage race with help of the UCI. But it appears everyone is just trying to pretend this is normal. Nothing to see here, cleanest peloton ever and zero tolerance for doping.

 

[autologous]

Well, Spilak was able to follow horse steroid froomey in the mountain stage, just like last year.

After the stage Sports Director Servais Knaven was understandably a happy man.

“It was a really strong performance from Froomey today," he said. "It was great to see and naturally everyone is really happy. The team rode very well.

“The moment to go was earlier than we thought it would be but when Nibali attacks there’s only one thing you can do and that’s follow it. Then obviously Froomey kept on riding and dropped everybody which was really impressive.

“Spilak was going well and Froomey waited a bit so they could ride together. He has the jersey now so Katusha are likely to defend the lead. They are traditionally a team which defends the jersey.

stretching the truth there a little bit. no surprise.

 

[red_flanders]

Well, Spilak was able to follow horse steroid froomey in the mountain stage, just like last year. Horse steroi froomey beat Martin by one second in a relatively short TT and Martin was able to beat Sergeant only by 8 seconds.

But sure you can interpret the results as you like.

Come on. Did you watch the race? Froome waited for him (which was obvious) and his team actually said the same afterwards.

He won with ridiculous ease, if 100% healthy. Which personally I'm sure he was. To imagine he won that race while so sick he needed a steroid treatment really strains belief.

Seriously, who really gives a crap? It's not like the competition is clean either. But the absurd defense of Froome in this is really too much.

 

[froooome]

If I was a sky fan, I would be a bit upset if I found out that my favourite and so called clean rider was found to have cheated his way to win a stage race with help of the UCI. But it appears everyone is just trying to pretend this is normal. Nothing to see here, cleanest peloton ever and zero tolerance for doping.

It was far from normal. If froomey had has his normal form he would have dropped Spilak and beat Sergeant at least 30 secs.

Btw, I think cortsisone froomey is not as good form as super strong blood bag bertie in this year but I wish I'm wrong

 

[thehog]

If I was a sky fan, I would be a bit upset if I found out that my favourite and so called clean rider was found to have cheated his way to win a stage race with help of the UCI. But it appears everyone is just trying to pretend this is normal. Nothing to see here, cleanest peloton ever and zero tolerance for doping.

It's funny. One week Dawg was telling us there's not enough testing at Tenerife.

The next he's demanding privacy over he's TUEs for horse steroids!

 

[DirtyWorks]

It's funny. One week Dawg was telling us there's not enough testing at Tenerife.

The next he's demanding privacy over he's TUEs for horse steroids!

In both cases, the UCI doing exactly as he requests. How many other riders get this privilege?

I want to know how a rider gets in a position where the sports federation is catering to his whims. Does this happen in football?

 

[froooome]

It's funny. One week Dawg was telling us there's not enough testing at Tenerife.

The next he's demanding privacy over he's TUEs for horse steroids!

I think blood bags boost performance more than cortisone prescribed for an illness.

 

[Catwhoorg]

Well, Spilak was able to follow horse steroid froomey in the mountain stage, just like last year. Horse steroi froomey beat Martin by one second in a relatively short TT and Martin was able to beat Sergeant only by 8 seconds.

But sure you can interpret the results as you like.

Martin misjudged his line and had to unclip at one point, costing him several seconds by his comments at the time, and still only lost by a second.

 

[yespatterns]

Has Froome (or his mouthpiece) had anything additional to say as this situation has progressed?

 

[thehog]

In both cases, the UCI doing exactly as he requests. How many other riders get this privilege?

I want to know how a rider gets in a position where the sports federation is catering to his whims. Does this happen in football?

Yes it's rather odd that the UCI have trouble and delays getting their testing together at Tenerife meanwhile they appear very responsive in handing out TUEs for elephant* steroids






(*No I didn't make that up: http://www.elephantcare.org/Drugs/predniso.htm)