UCI: Italian Giro top favourite will be Bio-pass exposed in hours

[skipbadger]

Christian VandeVelde 2009 Giro Winner?

With enough positive tests, VdV could be the winner of last year's Giro. And he crashed out in the first week!

Change is happening slowly, but surely. Refreshing to see the BMC rider admit to EPO and actually admit to the fact that he would have kept it up had he not been caught simply for the money. Incredible insight into the current mindset of the pro peleton.

What other options do some of these guys have? Its easy for me to say I would never dope, but if it was hundred's of thousands of dollars per year on the line? Take my family from lower class to upper middle class within a year? Have my kids college paid for? Because I knew once my riding days were over I would be lucky to get a low paying clerical job? And the whole time thinking I need to dope because everyone else is?

Just glad I will never have that problem. I feel for these guys, innocent and guilty as well, for I suspect that 80% of the guilty ones have a hard time looking at themselves in the mirror every morning. At least I hope to hell they do...

 

[Barnaby]

They wouldn't dare bust Pellizotti. The Italian male grooming industry would collapse overnight.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Remember folks, there is at this point nothing confirmed on this. Neither the UCI nor the team has commented on it yet. All there is right now is one newspaper report.

Susan

 

[ak-zaaf]

Remember folks, there is at this point nothing confirmed on this. Neither the UCI nor the team has commented on it yet. All there is right now is one newspaper report.

Susan

I have more trust in Gazzetta Dello Sport than in the UCI.

 

[Barrus]

Just glad I will never have that problem. I feel for these guys, innocent and guilty as well, for I suspect that 80% of the guilty ones have a hard time looking at themselves in the mirror every morning. At least I hope to hell they do...

Well, Pellizotti will have a hard life then, I believe he spends as much time in front of a mirror as he does on his bike.

Has anyone any idea at what time the UCI will issue their statement and whether this will truly involve an immediate ban?

 

[Moondance]

I have more trust in Gazzetta Dello Sport than in the UCI.

+1

Blah blah length requirements blah

 

[Ferminal]

So, whenever Menchov finally gets suspended for the humanplasma case, does Sastre win last year's Giro?

Now that would just be silly... Has anyone come from behind to win as a result of two, let alone three positives ahead of them?

I would like to see Menchov in the TdF too

 

[issoisso]

Well, Pellizotti will have a hard life then, I believe he spends as much time in front of a mirror as he does on his bike.

Has anyone any idea at what time the UCI will issue their statement and whether this will truly involve an immediate ban?

See my previous post about the UCI needing to inform riders.

Once informed, the UCI will request their national governing bodies issue suspensions.

I'm impressed. An actual ban based on the bio passport.

There have been quite a few so far. Di Luca being the most notable.

 

[Barrus]

Once informed, the UCI will request their national governing bodies issue suspensions.

So the Spaniard will be the one who gets off once again

As the others I trust Gazetta on this, but I want to know the other riders

 

[python]

no. diluca was popped with a positive 'traditional' test for cera. cobbles referred to the actual bio passport longitudinal evidence. most if not all blood doping cases were targeted by the biopassport. they don't count.

 

[Fourier]

I wonder if a ban based on th Bio Passport would stick. Look at the speed skater Pechstein's case. There are always several possible medical "explanations" to justify abnormal values.

 

[python]

if it is pelizotti it's almost a given he'll take it to cas after coni and the italian federation slap him with suspension.

as far as i am concerned pechstein's case was week even if cas upheld it. there is a thread on biopassport where the details are discussed.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

I wonder if a ban based on th Bio Passport would stick. Look at the speed skater Pechstein's case. There are always several possible medical "explanations" to justify abnormal values.

Yes, but she is still suspended.

Susan

 

[issoisso]

no. diluca was popped with a positive 'traditional' test for cera. cobbles referred to the actual bio passport longitudinal evidence. most if not all blood doping cases were targeted by the biopassport. they don't count.

Without the blood passport, he wouldn't have been targetted. How is he not a blood passport victim?

 

[python]

she is suspended but her case was based on a single blood parameter whereas uci's blood passport is based on wada mandated at least 8 blood parameters.

big difference.

 

[Barrus]

Without the blood passport, he wouldn't have been targetted. How is he not a blood passport victim?

Yes, but there is still a specific instance of provable (spelling?) doping, whereas here there is solely a discrepancy within the information within the bio-passport, without a specific instance where there is clear doping. Thus I believe this is the first case being based solely on the passport and therefore I'm worried that it might not stick

 

[python]

Without the blood passport, he wouldn't have been targetted. How is he not a blood passport victim?

he is a blood passport victim like any other blood doper. as i explained being convicted by 'traditional' test is not the same as being targeted by the passport data. diluca failed cera test.

 

[theyoungest]

Yes, but there is still a specific instance of provable (spelling?) doping, whereas here there is solely a discrepancy within the information within the bio-passport, without a specific instance where there is clear doping. Thus I believe this is the first case being based solely on the passport and therefore I'm worried that it might not stick

No it's not: Astarloa, Lobato, Serrano, Caucchioli, and De Bonis were suspended last year based purely on the values in their blood passport.

 

[FastMatt]

Reports in Spain say that it is Pellizotti.

Here is the article if you can read spanish.

http://www.as.com/ciclismo/articulo...ti-correr-giro/dasclm/20100503dasdascic_4/Tes

 

[Fourier]

Marca names Valjavec as the implicated slovenian rider.

http://www.marca.com/2010/05/03/ciclismo/giro_italia/1272896448.html

 

[Barrus]

No it's not: Astarloa, Lobato, Serrano, Caucchioli, and De Bonis were suspended last year based purely on the values in their blood passport.

Ah good to know, do you know whether or not they appealed?

 

[issoisso]

Marca names Valjavec as the implicated slovenian rider.

http://www.marca.com/2010/05/03/ciclismo/giro_italia/1272896448.html

Your friendly neighbourhood slovenian.

No surprise there.

 

[Signor Corleone]

Signor Corleone

Just joined today,Guys!!

I think it's going to be either Pellizotti or Nibali, given that they were the two high performing Italians at
last years Tour De France. Seeing that Nibali is quite anti doping, it's going to be the former.

 

[petesam]

http://www.marca.com/2010/05/03/ciclismo/giro_italia/1272896448.html

According to marca - Pellizotti out, Nibali in to take his place.

Here's and interesting article from last year then:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/pel...-with-ferrari?cid=OTC-RSS&attr=news_headlines

oh...really? anti-defamation? Both Nibali and Pellizotti clean? Ferrari not doing doping any more? Hmmm...i definitely have my doubts

 

[theyoungest]

Marca names Valjavec as the implicated slovenian rider.

http://www.marca.com/2010/05/03/ciclismo/giro_italia/1272896448.html

He will be sorely missed. Most boring GT rider ever? Who, by the way, rides for one of those supposedly clean French teams.