UCI's response to USADA report

[DirtyWorks]

If the UCI doesn't do that, my interest in professional cycling goes into serious decline.

It's time to move on then, because the way this has been handled is a replay of other UCI scandals.

 

[sniper]

I really hope he does. Must be tough to hear Pat dismissing him.

Imagine Pat squeeling:
"Lance is nothing but a jealous, vindicative doper with an axe to grind."

 

[webvan]

He needs to take down Heiny and FatPat to be able to live with himself, it's coming...

 

[FellOff]

David Walsh has just been on BBC Radio 5 saying he thinks the UCI are gambling that Scumbag cannot afford to tell the truth as it would lay him open to almost limitless financial penalties.

UCI needs to be closed and replaced. USADA rightly sticking their middle finger up again to this incompetent parasite.

 

[alberto.legstrong]

I don't understand the bolded. "The media" knew they were being used. Uhh, stories got printed as fact anyway. Only later on when the fraud blows as big as a nuclear bomb do they come back around upset about the matter and Wonderboy is the one to blame.

It's an epidemic of blame-shifting. No wonder people won't buy their media any more.

i didn't read further response to see what anyone else said, but I am not saying the media knew it at the time. At the time they felt they were acting in good faith on a bona fide miraculous story.

 

[dermotmeagher]

Kimmage just did an interview on an Irish radio station. Typically scathing about McQuaid and the UCI, said he listened to the conference with a sense of "rage".

RTE Radio 1, on their Monday night sports roundup, devoted a significant amount of time to a roundup type piece on the UCI presser today (http://www.rte.ie/radio1/podcast/podcast_sportat7.xml)
but more significantly, they flagged an upcoming interview with McQuaid tomorrow Tuesday, on a morning current affairs magazine show: listening details here.

Word of warning, the presenter likes to show how au fait he is with sport, when in fact he hasn't a clue, so prepare for some frustration.

But it might be McQuaid's first interview since today's paint job?

 

[alberto.legstrong]

Finally, we have the doper stripped. And we can have squeaky clean riders like Jan Ulrich, Ivan Basso and Andreas Kloden declared winners.

According to Tyler Hamilton, when asked what Armstrong did, he responded "What we all did. Everybody was doing it." That being said, what the UCI needs to do after their ruling today is to erase ALL results from 1998 (the Festina scandal) through 2005.

If the UCI doesn't do that, my interest in professional cycling goes into serious decline.

Anyone like Mad Libs ???

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I know for a fact that there are still plenty of 'ordinary' (non-cycling) Germans and Italians who inhabit an African river. They dismiss everything with a, 'well everyone doped and he was still the best' despite everything that is now public knowledge. As far as some germans and Italians go, there is also the question of what they see as 'patriotism' - all those gosh darn foreigners doing our boy down...

Judging purely by my own circle of acquaintances (US, UK, Euro) I'd say that the only people left who are still unwilling to condemn him, are germans and italians.
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This semi-bigoted prejudicial cr@p is like mad libs boys, any fool can fill in the blanks. get over it! people will always rally around the guy you like the most. I like contador and I am not Spanish and I am in the US and will try and apologize for him as best I can until I can't any longer, (which I can't any longer) Insert anyone you are fond of here who has the stink of ped's on him, God knows there's plenty for everyone here. But playing the nationalist card is just a new low for this forum.

 

[alberto.legstrong]

He needs to take down Heiny and FatPat to be able to live with himself, it's coming...

Watching the den of thieves turn on each other in public would be an epic soap opera for the ages.

 

[Benotti69]

RTE Radio 1, on their Monday night sports roundup, devoted a significant amount of time to a roundup type piece on the UCI presser today (http://www.rte.ie/radio1/podcast/podcast_sportat7.xml)
but more significantly, they flagged an upcoming interview with McQuaid tomorrow Tuesday, on a morning current affairs magazine show: listening details here.

Word of warning, the presenter likes to show how au fait he is with sport, when in fact he hasn't a clue, so prepare for some frustration.

But it might be McQuaid's first interview since today's paint job?

That will be a total joke of an interview. Pat Kenny is an idiot with a huge ego and hasn' got a clue. It will be grim listening!

 

[dermotmeagher]

That will be a total joke of an interview. Pat Kenny is an idiot with a huge ego and hasn' got a clue. It will be grim listening!

Most likely, but I still thought it worth mentioning.

McQuaid is likely to think he will get a softer ride from Kenny than he would from a BBC interview.

Kenny tried to bamboozle David Walsh last week, but didn't succeed. That might provoke him into taking a tougher line with McQuaid.

Or not.......

 

[Amsterhammer]

Anyone like Mad Libs ???

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I know for a fact that there are still plenty of 'ordinary' (non-cycling) Germans and Italians who inhabit an African river. They dismiss everything with a, 'well everyone doped and he was still the best' despite everything that is now public knowledge. As far as some germans and Italians go, there is also the question of what they see as 'patriotism' - all those gosh darn foreigners doing our boy down...

Judging purely by my own circle of acquaintances (US, UK, Euro) I'd say that the only people left who are still unwilling to condemn him, are germans and italians.
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This semi-bigoted prejudicial cr@p is like mad libs boys, any fool can fill in the blanks. get over it! people will always rally around the guy you like the most. I like contador and I am not Spanish and I am in the US and will try and apologize for him as best I can until I can't any longer, (which I can't any longer) Insert anyone you are fond of here who has the stink of ped's on him, God knows there's plenty for everyone here. But playing the nationalist card is just a new low for this forum.

What's your problem, dude? Semi-bigoted? Prejudicial? Nationalist card? New low? Are you trying to create an argument where there is none?

I couldn't have taken greater care not to generalize. My comments had nothing whatsoever to do with bigotry or nationalism, two human weaknesses that I particularly detest. What part of "Judging purely by my own circle of acquaintances" do you find difficult to grasp?

 

[cocteau_ireland]

Glad p kimmage is acknowledging his obsession. Both work and personal life been impacted. He is perhaps on the edge and the rage is as palpable as ever.

 

[Bratam]

Let the law suits against the Uniballer begin. May he wind up living with his mother in a used trailer in Plano, TX.

LMAO at this comment.

 

[fatandfast]

"Lance Armstrong has no place in cycling..except for giving donations"
Pat McQuaid .Oct 22nd 2012.

 

[miloman]

Selective Justice

I never thought I would say this but Armstrong is looking more and more like a martyr. As it appears, too many obviously guilty parties are getting off with a hand slap or falling under the radar. I believe that EVERYONE who rode on one of Armstrong’s teams deserves scrutiny! Remove everyone’s wins and then start looking into the other teams. Why is Riis’ name still there? What about Indurain? I still have a hard time believing that a 6’2” 180lb rider could climb like he did. I think you either clean house once and for all or let it ride with a big asterisk.

 

[Lukenwolf]

What's your problem, dude? Semi-bigoted? Prejudicial? Nationalist card? New low? Are you trying to create an argument where there is none?

I couldn't have taken greater care not to generalize. My comments had nothing whatsoever to do with bigotry or nationalism, two human weaknesses that I particularly detest. What part of "Judging purely by my own circle of acquaintances" do you find difficult to grasp?

Very simple, you said that many Germans and Italians are still in denial and think he (I suppose you mean Armstrong) was the best of the dopers, because everyone did it. And that's just plain ol' male bovine excrement. First of all, most Germans have given up on cycling. No national TV station is showing the Tour de France anymore and those of us, who still harbour a love of cycling are looked upon as if our favourite pastime is ****ing sheep. If any nation is aware - even pranoid - about doping and cycling, it's Germany. Team Terrorkom was a national Icon. When that team was exposed as a bunch od lying and cheating *******s, cycling died. We lived through what American cycling has coming their way now. Your bringing nationalities into it was, let's say, not a very smart idea.

 

[D-Queued]

Kenny does'nt know what day of the week it is when he is talking about this and will give McQuaid an easy ride. Hopefully McQuaid goes on Newstalk on "Off the Ball" where he will get pushed on by Eoin McDevitt. Listening to them tonight McQuaid refused to go on and they have had a few heated interviews on the show before. We may see him still on that tomorrow and probably could'nt come on tonight because he was busy up the walls with everything. Hopefully.

McQuaid calls Landis and Hamilton scumbags.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...yd-Landis-and-Tyler-Hamilton-as-scumbags.html

Pat McQuaid, you are a clown.

And, since you qualified the Kimmage and Landis suits to be based upon accusations of corruption, then with this statement you have revealed yourself to as corrupt as a rotten corpse.

I believe Hieronymos Bosch painted a picture of the UCI under your leadership:

If you want to sue me, you have only to take out an account here and inbox me and I will gladly provide you with both my name and my address.

Dave.

 

[Amsterhammer]

Very simple, you said that many Germans and Italians are still in denial and think he (I suppose you mean Armstrong) was the best of the dopers, because everyone did it. And that's just plain ol' male bovine excrement. First of all, most Germans have given up on cycling. No national TV station is showing the Tour de France anymore and those of us, who still harbour a love of cycling are looked upon as if our favourite pastime is ****ing sheep. If any nation is aware - even pranoid - about doping and cycling, it's Germany. Team Terrorkom was a national Icon. When that team was exposed as a bunch od lying and cheating *******s, cycling died. We lived through what American cycling has coming their way now. Your bringing nationalities into it was, let's say, not a very smart idea.

You see, you've wasted your time writing your reply and I'm wasting mine writing this one, all because the dude I quoted didn't quote properly.

If you take the trouble to go back a page or two you will see that I was replying to Alpe's question about how many (few) people might still support LA. I said that, "Judging purely by my own circle of acquaintances" it seemed to me that the only people I knew that were still supporting him were Americans. I did not mention Germans or Italians at all, he did, presumably in an attempt to ridicule what I wrote.

I did not generalize and refer to all Americans, only to people I know personally. Verstehst du jetzt?

 

[Lukenwolf]

If you take the trouble to go back a page or two you will see that I was replying to Alpe's question about how many (few) people might still support LA.
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I did not generalize and refer to all Americans, only to people I know personally. Verstehst du jetzt?

Then why didn't you just delete it from the quote? That way you made your self look like having written that piece of drivel. I jusz checked and it was indeed written by someone else, so I apologize and self-righteously lash out at the other numbnut.

 

[ProfTournesol]

by your logic, none of them have won a Tour now either, sad day

In that case provisional congratulations to Cadel Evans, the first clean Tour winner

 

[Lukenwolf]

In that case provisional congratulations to Cadel Evans, the first clean Tour winner

Except for having worked with Armstrongs preferred dopist doctor. But of course he only used Dr. Mengele for training advice as all the dozens of other dopist riders did Face it. We didn't have a clean TdF winner since the 60s if not even longer.

 

[TheEnoculator]

With ASO and SCA demanding money back, Armstrong has truly screwed himself for being silent all these months. Now he has to take action, one way or the other. If he refuses to give the money back, he will face lawsuits which he will lose (UCI sanctioning him is enough for proof of guilt). If he gives the money back, he's essentially admitting guilt and opening himself to even more lawsuits because now everyone knows they can sue him. It's lose-lose for him.

Before at least he could avoid talking about it and not taking any action and pretending it's not there. Not anymore.

 

[purcell]

In that case provisional congratulations to Cadel Evans, the first clean Tour winner

Mapei
Telekom
BMC

Ferrari

Clean? doubtful.

 

[guncha]

But yes, he was. That's one of the many revelations from the USADA investigation.

Really? I haven't found any comparison with doping programs of other riders in USADA report. All I know is that Ullrich, Contador, Landis, Basso etc. are proven dopers.

 

[CobbleStoner]

Mapei
Telekom
BMC

Ferrari

Clean? doubtful.

if there ever was someone symptomatic of roid rage, it's him. laughing one minute, crying the next, throwing things at people, gorilla strength deep into a race. Go Cuddles!