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UK EPO Positives

Has anyone heard about UK EPO positives this season??

Is the governing body supposed to release the news of positives or can they just sit on any positive tests?

Have heard of at least one but wondered if it is possible for it to be buried.
 
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heard nothing.

nothing on ukad's website or press releases, and not heard anything via bikepure either.

May be that the keep it quiet until the appeal process has been exhausted which is (possibly) fair

there were a couple of horses done for epo by uk labs last year and another one this spring..
 
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These are local riders, not riders on the Sky team but if they are covering local rider positives up anything is possible.

or as I say, could just be that they dont release the details until after the b-sample has been tested and the appeal process exhausted. BRitish sport have generally not released details of viloations until well after the fact.

Or the riders involved are of so little interest nobody cares, I assume those riders are currently under suspension?

When you say Local do you mean, domestic, As in premier calander level, or "Local" like regional riders?
 
Regional that I know of plus some talk of national level.

Been around a month so you could be right about the B sample if that is being tested. Evidently BC don't want it publicised but surely UK sport have guidelines around that.

It's only sports with round balls involved that can hide results!!!
 
Regional riders doping?

It's pathetic. It's not even as if there's any real money to be made bike racing in the UK.

Then again if you think you're heading for a Protour team, you have to faire le métier.
 
Animal said:
Regional riders doping?

It's pathetic. It's not even as if there's any real money to be made bike racing in the UK.

Then again if you think you're heading for a Protour team, you have to faire le métier.

It's probably people who think that who decide to take it. There's plenty of pros that don't.
 
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Regional riders doping?

It's pathetic. It's not even as if there's any real money to be made bike racing in the UK.

Then again if you think you're heading for a Protour team, you have to faire le métier.

+1 i can't see national riders taking EPO, doesn't make sense
 
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+1 i can't see national riders taking EPO, doesn't make sense

Some people just don't have the ability to be national caliber riders. But with a few injections they can change all that. Happens over here in the states. Mind boggling considering the consequences and very limited financial benefit, but hey, poor judgments happen.

Adam Bergman from Minnesota comes to mind.
 
Thee_chisa said:
+1 i can't see national riders taking EPO, doesn't make sense

Maybe you can get Kayle Leogrande's thoughts on the subject...

For that matter, fellow forum member Joe Papp probably has a few thoughts on the subject as well, but may not be in a position to share.
 
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a bit more of this story on BikeRadar

The thread is here, http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12708731

From what I've heard, the lad rocked up, got across to a break full of Rapha lads solo, tore their legs off to the point no one could come through and dragged them round for a massive lead on the peloton. Apparently Herety thought something was up and asked for a test. Wasn't a premier event by all accounts, so I don't know what race it was. Think it was a Nat B somewhere.

:rolleyes:
 
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I think I know which event they're talking about! I remember reading the report thinking it was a great ride from a Cat 1 amateur against that lot, but thinking he must have had a decent winter! The report also seemed to make a big deal that the guy I'm thinking of had also been in a long break in a race the day before. Looking back, it's almost as if the reporter was trying to make a point. :rolleyes:

Edit: Can't remember the guy's name or club. I see if I can dig the report up.
 
From what I've heard, the lad rocked up, got across to a break full of Rapha lads solo, tore their legs off to the point no one could come through and dragged them round for a massive lead on the peloton. Apparently Herety thought something was up and asked for a test. Wasn't a premier event by all accounts, so I don't know what race it was. Think it was a Nat B somewhere.

Nat B? Wossat then?
 
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Roland Rat said:
I think I know which event they're talking about!

Edit: Can't remember the guy's name or club. I see if I can dig the report up.

Aha, I think I've made a good guess who it is now based on that. If it is indeed him, spending most of the day on Sat in the break then attacking and bridging to the break on Sun to finish top 5, that's just a bit too obvious. :rolleyes: Greedy even! If he hadn't done that, he probably wouldn't have been caught.

Ah well, see what happens, if anything comes out publically about it. I've had my suspicions about other E/1/2 races this season as well, reading about guys who attack all day, get in a break of a dozen, attack to get that down to six, then four, then two, then solo the last 30km to win, in long races where riders are essentially riding for themselves with no major teams. The differences in fitness and abilities at that level amongst cat 1 and elite amateurs are minimal. So it makes you shake your head a bit. :confused:

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Nat B? Wossat then?
Nat B is the level below the major Premier Calendar and high level elite races -- big local standalone races generally.
 
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If you put the suspected riders name into Google it suggests xxxx xxxx doping as one of the searches
 
euanli said:
If you put the suspected riders name into Google it suggests xxxx xxxx doping as one of the searches

And if you do you find an interesting, and pertinent, conversation from another forum in which he participated a while ago. ;)

Still, we might be way off target with our suspicions.
 
Roland Rat said:
And if you do you find an interesting, and pertinent, conversation from another forum in which he participated a while ago. ;)

Still, we might be way off target with our suspicions.

This has piqued my interest. Can you give those of us who don't follow the UK scene quite so closely a little clue without inculpating yourself? ;)
 
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This has piqued my interest. Can you give those of us who don't follow the UK scene quite so closely a little clue without inculpating yourself? ;)

I'm not really sure I can, as the person I think it is is so obscure that if you don't know the UK scene I'd have to just give you his name, and even then you'd just think "Who?"! Besides, it seems a but unfair to name an amateur when we're not sure it's him. Pro's are fair game but amateurs are real people. :p

I wouldn't give too much thought to it though. If it's who I think it is, it's not that interesting. You probably have never heard of him, he's not an up and coming youngster, I don't think he's ever ridden for GB, he's not even elite level... it's just so mundane that you wonder why he even bothered.