TailWindHome said:Wow.
Lampre rider popped and it's a Sky thread.
eheh and in the very opening post of the thread
The Cycling News forum is looking to add some volunteer moderators with Red Rick's recent retirement. If you're interested in helping keep our discussions on track, send a direct message to
In the meanwhile, please use the Report option if you see a post that doesn't fit within the forum rules.
Thanks!
TailWindHome said:Wow.
Lampre rider popped and it's a Sky thread.
King Boonen said:No, they are not. Go and read the MPCC rules.
In fact, here you go.
4. Intra-articular corticosteroid injections have to be validated by the team doctor, who will prescribe eight days off-race.
5. In the event of collapsing cortisol levels, eight rest days are to be prescribed (waiting for normal blood tests results).
The only rules you could possibly be thinking of. Neither would have prevented Froome's TUE and continued racing.
Wallace said:That Lampre hired Horner after seeing those blood values tells you everything you need to know about the team's ethics.
cineteq said:ITT performance was too good to be true.
King Boonen said:The MPCC has nothing to do with Froome's TUE, any MPCC rider could recieve the same and continue riding.
That's all I'll say, lets not turn this into another Sky thread.
the sceptic said:You think its fair that some sick riders will test positive due to not having TUEs, while others can dope on horse steroids and get away with it?
erik dekker 2000 three stages too good? http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/rabobank-timeline-a-mainstay-of-the-peloton-bows-outZam_Olyas said:Not really surprising for me. I said at the time then he was a bit too good. iirc
Yes, he's always been a decent ITTer. But, he was just 28 sec. off Martin's winning time, over 25 Km. And have you noticed Martin can climb? Your hilly justification is weak.Parrulo said:Why, because he beat Canc? It was very good but it wasn't all that special. Costa has always been a good hilly time trial rider and Cancellara stopped being the benchmark for time trialing a couple years ago. Martin still easily beat Costa and put a good amount of time on him on the flat part of the course.
King Boonen said:No, they are not. Go and read the MPCC rules.
In fact, here you go.
4. Intra-articular corticosteroid injections have to be validated by the team doctor, who will prescribe eight days off-race.
5. In the event of collapsing cortisol levels, eight rest days are to be prescribed (waiting for normal blood tests results).
The only rules you could possibly be thinking of. Neither would have prevented Froome's TUE and continued racing.
So I imagine all those dopers who used salbutamol in the past (Indurain, Pereiro, Igor González de Galdeano...) did it just for ****s and giggles?JimmyFingers said:Seems a real shame, no real-performance-enhancement at all from ventolin, and yet they let other riders use proper PEDs legally for similar ailments.
Wallace said:But wouldn't the "eight rest days" stipulation have ruled out Froome's participation in Romandie?
hrotha said:So I imagine all those dopers who used salbutamol in the past (Indurain, Pereiro, Igor González de Galdeano...) did it just for ****s and giggles?
Eclipse said:So what does Salbutamol actually do for a rider?
I had a cursory glance at wiki and the first thing it said under doping was:
"Clinical studies show no compelling evidence that salbutamol and other β2-agonists can increase performance in healthy athletes"
And it doesn't seem like it's used to mask anything.
Correction: he claims he was suffering from bronchiospasmsJimmyFingers said:So how does it enhance performance then, pray tell? He was suffering from bronchiospasms, which doesn't sound nice at all.
cineteq said:Yes, he's always been a decent ITTer. But, he was just 28 sec. off Martin's winning time, over 25 Km. And have you noticed Martin can climb? Your hilly justification is weak.
Fortyninefourteen said:Works in conjunction......
hrotha said:Correction: he claims he was suffering from bronchiospasms
How does it enhance performance? I don't know. There's lots of stuff about PED interaction we know very little about, since it's not typically the kind of thing people conduct serious studies about. What we do know is that salbutamol is used by dopers. They probably know more than both of us about what works and what doesn't.