US prosecutors drop case against Armstrong/USPS

[Cal_Joe]

I was a non- believer. But had a beer with a mate last night in the scene.

Said Armstrong was farked UsADA wise and personally. They already have a bucket load of material. He also said the guy is wasted, spent, tired. Can't go on.

My frame had changed

Told me some great stories. It was good night. Got blasted.

Once I kick my hangover I'll reconcile it all.

How many times have you been warned about carousing with LarryBudMelman?

 

[MarkvW]

"I did what I had to do in order to give hope to millions and raise awareness"

Can you effing imagine if this came to pass? How does one elegantly say, "I am a fraud, liar, cheater, bully and fake to the core... But I do have a cancer charity that I have raped for my own personal gain. I think if I try real hard I can be a changed man by the end of this presser."

You guys are nuts (I mean that as a joke), buying off on a Hog prediction (Is it Drumroll Tuesday?). Been there, done that.

 

[Anonymous]

You guys are nuts (I mean that as a joke), buying off on a Hog prediction (Is it Drumroll Tuesday?). Been there, done that.

Maybe. I keep hoping the guilty will eventually have to pay the price.

Ima firm believer in karma. We will see I guess.

 

[aphronesis]

You guys are nuts (I mean that as a joke), buying off on a Hog prediction (Is it Drumroll Tuesday?). Been there, done that.

can't link this as it's unpublished, but seems apposite:

once people enter conspiracy discourse, they become “insulated from outside forces, they listen to themselves and no one criticizes them….You have an internal myth built up by this incestuous feedback.” Political analyst Chip Berlet further observes that once a group establishes this insularity, “instead of engaging in a political struggle based on debate, compromise, and informed consent, . . . [conspiracy theorists only] want to expose and neutralize the bad actors.” Recently, the emergence of the Internet has reinforced this kind of thinking. There, when verification for these ideas is lacking, predisposition—i.e., a fervent need to believe—sanctions them anyway.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

Maybe. I keep hoping the guilty will eventually have to pay the price.

Ima firm believer in karma. We will see I guess.

Oh, oh... see my new sig.

 

[Neworld]

I'm blunt and write what I think. Some people can handle it, some can't.

Don't waste your time with neworld. He/she has been beyond repair in terms of reaction to my posts ever since I wrote LA's "duping" of cancer survivors should play no part on how somebody on a jury should interpret the case.

A little out of context Chris. "Don't waste your time with Neworld"...but in a later post you state "I am blunt and tell it like it is"... you may be, but then you slander posters in third person; not very blunt or time-effective/saving.

As for Aphro and Chris, thank you for the feedback. You two seem to have it all worked out, but are far from angelic or straightforward.

Chris tries to reserve his overt fondness of Lance, even though he states he knows he's guilty and a liar, by arguing 'issues' from all sides, oh and 'tells it like it is".

Aphro appears by way of the sniff test to be very well versed in almost everything and may just be the first CN poster with heightened qualities of ethics, lexicology, philosophy, and moral code...just as long as its a legal discussion of course. An Ombudsman with egalitarian qualities of legal topics and Lance.

What is really exhaustive is when someone continually tries to justify, legal or otherwise, a person like Lance who is clearly a liar and of minimal moral fibre. Yes Chris I still feel that someone who primarily plays on the heart strings, and siphons money, from dying Cancer patients and their families as unforgiveable and something that jurors may use when making decisions. Only a defence lawyer could behave like that.

Just come out and say, "hey I like all things Lance, but as a Devil's advocate why couldn't Lance... ?" I am sure that people would be more affable when discussing topics with you. When you don't your design appears just as unimaginable as the dismissal of the Federal investigation of Lance/USPS.

NouveauMonde

 

[MarkvW]

Maybe. I keep hoping the guilty will eventually have to pay the price.

Ima firm believer in karma. We will see I guess.

He is paying the price. I was shopping for a helmet yesterday, and the salesman pointed out the one Giro helmet of the style and size that I wanted. When he pointed out the Livestrong logo, I was surprised by the revulsion I felt. No sale.

Maybe not the price you hope for, but still ...

 

[Wallace]

I'm also like, totally sure that any day now Lance, after having been let off the hook by a federal investigation is still sharply feeling the pangs of guilt and remorse and is about to turn himself in, at any moment.

On a related note, a friend of mine who works for the Franconia Bacon Inspectors just told me, and you can bet the house on this, that sometime next week D.B. Cooper is going to turn himself in, with all the money he stole plus interest, because he just realized that the whole hijacking, ransom, jumping-out-of-the-airplane thing was totally not at all cool.

 

[Cal_Joe]

Maybe. I keep hoping the guilty will eventually have to pay the price.

Ima firm believer in karma. We will see I guess.

Actually, the real name of the song is "I'm A Believer". Popularized by The Monkees, it was written by Neil Diamond.

And yes, I can provide links attesting to those facts. Those links do not include any statements by anonymous sources.

 

[Anonymous]

Actually, the real name of the song is "I'm A Believer". Popularized by The Monkees, it was written by Neil Diamond.

And yes, I can provide links attesting to those facts. Those links do not include any statements by anonymous sources.

Wow, you are so clever.

 

[Cal_Joe]

Wow, you are so clever.

No I am not. I forgot to add that the facts can not only be verified through verifiable sources, those sources do not involve drinking bouts with unknown fellow binge drinkers, nor do they invoke the sacred "super secret insider information" scam.

 

[goober]

Goober is telling us it ain't over. Could be the greatest leak/corruption scandal since Watergate. Big Jeff is going down.....yeah right

I hate to question Goober but the next step is USDA not the FBI

The whole investigation took a complete dump from the day CBS news reported Hincapie testified about Lance and himself sharing EPO... Nope there were no leaks - continue to convince yourself... And that is just the tip of the iceberg........

 

[MarkvW]

The whole investigation took a complete dump from the day CBS news reported Hincapie testified about Lance and himself sharing EPO... Nope there were no leaks - continue to convince yourself... And that is just the tip of the iceberg........

Ah, another person with a secret undisclosed source.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Yet you continue to post...thank you for the schooling and the senseless autoreacharound.

wow- very good argumentative use of that term.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

I was a non- believer. But had a beer with a mate last night in the scene.

Said Armstrong was farked UsADA wise and personally. They already have a bucket load of material. He also said the guy is wasted, spent, tired. Can't go on.

My frame had changed

Told me some great stories. It was good night. Got blasted.

Once I kick my hangover I'll reconcile it all.

feeling better yet? Recap coming on tuesday?

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Actually on another cycling forum (same Chris E from Houston Tx) he was particularly blunt against Armstrong compatriots Hamilton & Landis.

One can now see that that avid opposition was allegedly designed to dowse the gleams of the US pretenders to the same court of his Texan hero, Armstrong.

Why worry with another cycling forum?

 

[patricknd]

Why worry with another cycling forum?

Haters just gotta be hatein

 

[Race Radio]

The whole investigation took a complete dump from the day CBS news reported Hincapie testified about Lance and himself sharing EPO... Nope there were no leaks - continue to convince yourself... And that is just the tip of the iceberg........

Now you have me confused. You have said it was over months before that. Where you just joking then? Why did Lance fly to Aspen to confront Tyler, tell him his lawyers would tear him apart on the stand, if it was all over?

As a personal friend of George you of course know that Hincapie did not testify in front of the Grand Jury, as Armstrong's complaint claimed. Let us know when you can share some info on those Grand Jury leaks.

The FBI investigation into the leaks will be HUGE! Tip of the iceberg! Corruption to the core! Payoffs, leaks, hookers & blow!

Can't wait, thanks for keeping us updated with all the great insider info Goober!

 

[Polish]

The whole investigation took a complete dump from the day CBS news reported Hincapie testified about Lance and himself sharing EPO... Nope there were no leaks - continue to convince yourself... And that is just the tip of the iceberg........

60 Minutes was certainly the tipping point tic toc.
The high water mark of the witch hunt smear job.

"Did you hear? Big George testified he and Lance shared EPO"
"Did you hear - Big George threw Lance under the bus"
"Lance's goose is cooked. Lance, urine trouble even more"

"but wait a minute" says Big George - "I never talked to 60 Minutes"
"what is going on?"

Indeed George, what IS going on?
Fast forward to "The Motion" and all the leaks stopped.
It was frightening really yikes.

And a Federal Offense walks up to a hater and taps him on the shoulder.
"Leave me alone", says the hater, "I'm looking for a Federal Offense"
And the Federal Offense walks away quietly.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Where has Novitz been? Not a word from him seems odd, is he not allowed to make statements regarding the investigation?

Atak of da bal- hedz……………….. Onyx – Throw Ya Gunz

 

[Cloxxki]

Where has Novitz been? Not a word from him seems odd, is he not allowed to make statements regarding the investigation?

Atak of da bal- hedz……………….. Onyx – Throw Ya Gunz

The guy probably has a mortgage as well. What are his career options if he decides he doesn't like his management, or worse, goes out and shares his opinion and knowledge? Perhaps talk show host, or wrestler. After a couple years in prison. He doesn't seem high on the list of people to voluntarily go to jail over Lance.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

The guy probably has a mortgage as well. What are his career options if he decides he doesn't like his management, or worse, goes out and shares his opinion and knowledge? Perhaps talk show host, or wrestler. After a couple years in prison. He doesn't seem high on the list of people to voluntarily go to jail over Lance.

Well I thought since things were leaking like a sieve before LA’s lawyers made a “motion” maybe Novitz could ratchet it up a notch or eleven.

He is probably posting on this site anyhow so maybe he could just throw a bone or two?

 

[Polish]

Well I thought since things were leaking like a sieve before LA’s lawyers made a “motion” maybe Novitz could ratchet it up a notch or eleven.

He is probably posting on this site anyhow so maybe he could just throw a bone or two?

Glenn, do you want to hazard a guess as to who told 60 Mins about George sharing EPO with Lance? Had to come from the "George Side" or the "Novitzsky Side". And it seems clear that neither George himself or Mr Novitzsky himself talked to 60 Mins....

So maybe it was someone that George talked to? It is ok for George to dicuss with others. He probably told Lance about the "sharing" story. Do you think Lance told 60 mins? Doubt that.

But I suppose the FBI had to follow up with Lance on it. Ask Lance if he is the one who told 60 Mins.

Or Maybe Novitzsky told someone?. I'm not sure if that is the same as George telling some one else. I would guess not.

Maybe George talked to Frankie? Tyler? Floyd?
If he did, 60 Mins would find out for sure lol.
That might be a good guess.
If 60 Mins is not revealing their source, I would think the FBI talked to those guys too.

There were also many many other stories citing "unnamed sources close to the investigation". FBI has been busy no doubt. Maybe they should talk to The Hog yikes.

 

[Anonymous]

Glenn, do you want to hazard a guess as to who told 60 Mins about George sharing EPO with Lance? Had to come from the "George Side" or the "Novitzsky Side". And it seems clear that neither George himself or Mr Novitzsky himself talked to 60 Mins....

So maybe it was someone that George talked to? It is ok for George to dicuss with others. He probably told Lance about the "sharing" story. Do you think Lance told 60 mins? Doubt that.

But I suppose the FBI had to follow up with Lance on it. Ask Lance if he is the one who told 60 Mins.

Or Maybe Novitzsky told someone?. I'm not sure if that is the same as George telling some one else. I would guess not.

Maybe George talked to Frankie? Tyler? Floyd?
If he did, 60 Mins would find out for sure lol.
That might be a good guess.
If 60 Mins is not revealing their source, I would think the FBI talked to those guys too.

There were also many many other stories citing "unnamed sources close to the investigation". FBI has been busy no doubt. Maybe they should talk to The Hog yikes.

Who is The Hog yikes?




A little punctuation goes a long way yikes.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Who is The Hog yikes?




A little punctuation goes a long way yikes.

The "Hog Yikes" rode for 7-11 back in 1989 then in 1991 with MotoRollow.