US prosecutors drop case against Armstrong/USPS

[BotanyBay]

ESPN legal Lester Munson on the case

Suspicious call on Lance Armstrong

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[mewmewmew13]

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lol

"Paging mr armstrong..."

 

[Velodude]

Wingnut nation is probably pretty confused about what to do here, which is their normal state but I digress.

You got a black US Atty with a French sounding last name in the Obama administration dropping the investigation while LA gives $100k to Planned Parenthood. I mean this is like throwing a ribeye to a pack of pit bulls.

BUT, it is LA and some "real murkins" like him for beating those Frenchies, and he has a big following regardless of the rumors. They can gain nothing by attacking this IMO.

LA gives $100k to Planned Parenthood.

No. It was the Lance Armstrong Foundation ("LAF") that provided those funds.

IRS were/are investigating LAF and investigations only arise from public complaints to IRS.

IRS has independence and does not issue media releases during an investigation.

Only a letter with reasons revoking tax exempt status and penalty income tax assessments to LAF persons who profited. Appeal process against IRS not in public domain.

Adherence to governance is a strict IRS requirement to maintain tax exemption status.

There exists mounting suspicion that Armstrong ran LAF as his personal fiefdom to profit from the Demand Media deal, provide scientific research funding to institutions whose employees provided him personal litigation support when that funding was outside LAF's revised mission statement and the Planned Parenthood donation of $100,000 when that donation was also not authorised by the mission statement.

On all those transactions Armstrong should have recused himself from the voting approval. "Recuse" and "Conflict of Interest" do not exist in the Dictator's Standard Dictionary.

How would it affect Armstrong's community standing if LAF's tax exemption status was revoked?

 

[MarkvW]

A coherent case? Until last week you were still trying to convince people that Lance could not be a 'target'.

Miscasting again, maserati! Not very honest, are you. I've only argued that it was possible that he was not a target and possible that he was. Sory, no time for an extended maserati-style argument!

Have a GREAT day!

 

[goober]

ESPN legal Lester Munson on the case

Suspicious call on Lance Armstrong

I can tell you without a doubt that this came as no surprise to anyone working the case. WITHOUT A DOUBT. This was supposed to happen the day before thanksgiving and all knew... And the interviewing witnesses up to the previous day - baloney....

 

[Velodude]

Miscasting again, maserati! Not very honest, are you. I've only argued that it was possible that he was not a target and possible that he was. Sory, no time for an extended maserati-style argument!

Have a GREAT day!

Remember how you continually wrongfully asserted that Fifth Amendment rights exist under a grant of immunity?

You demonstrated the same aplomb over Armstrong going from not being a target to "possibly" being a target but still testifying before the GJ with a grant of immunity.

 

[MarkvW]

I can tell you without a doubt that this came as no surprise to anyone working the case. WITHOUT A DOUBT. This was supposed to happen the day before thanksgiving and all knew... And the interviewing witnesses up to the previous day - baloney....

You are disrupting the myth-building! The myth that the feds had Lance slam-dunk guilty, and only "influence" prevented justice from being done.

 

[Ulle Relaxes]

I mean in the battle of insiders it is goober 1 - race radio 0. I mean if goober is actually right the blow up on the forum will be hilarious.

 

[Race Radio]

I can tell you without a doubt that this came as no surprise to anyone working the case. WITHOUT A DOUBT. This was supposed to happen the day before thanksgiving and all knew... An the interviewing witnesses up to the previous day - baloney....

If the case was never in doubt why did Lance hop on his jet and fly to Aspen to harass Tyler? If it was never in doubt why did Lance tell Tyler his high price lawyers would tear him apart in court......what court was he talking about? Maybe he meant the USADA case or perhaps the Qui Tam case?

I can confirm WITHOUT A DOUBT that a rider was scheduled to be interviewed. Not a rider you would have expected to be talked to. When he was told not to show up he was surprised and figured that it meant charges were going to be filed and they did not need his input.

Do you still believe George told investigators he never so doping? Will this all be revealed Thanksgiving?

 

[MarkvW]

I mean in the battle of insiders it is goober 1 - race radio 0. I mean if goober is actually right the blow up on the forum will be hilarious.

Snitch, snitch, who's got the snitch?

 

[MarkvW]

If the case was never in doubt why did Lance hop on his jet and fly to Aspen to harass Tyler? If it was never in doubt why did Lance tell Tyler his high price lawyers would tear him apart in court......what court was he talking about? Maybe he meant the USADA case or perhaps the Qui Tam case?

I can confirm WITHOUT A DOUBT that a rider was scheduled to be interviewed. Not a rider you would have expected to be talked to. When he was told not to show up he was surprised and figured that it meant charges were going to be filed and they did not need his input.

Do you still believe George told investigators he never so doping?

I think Race Radio is trying to argue that his snitch is the better snitch and that his inside information is the better inside information!

 

[Ulle Relaxes]

If race radio has a 'source' it's a media source (or the same source the media uses) and so far their track record isn't great. I mean goober apart from the timing heavily implied the case would get dropped. None of the Lance 'fans' predicted that- we all thought it would go ahead.

 

[Velodude]

I can tell you without a doubt that this came as no surprise to anyone working the case. WITHOUT A DOUBT. This was supposed to happen the day before thanksgiving and all knew... And the interviewing witnesses up to the previous day - baloney....

Can you inform the forum from your inside knowledge whether there were any surprise witnesses?

If you can supply that information with identities now then in the future when that information is provided/leaked your insider status will be accredited.

 

[Polish]

I can tell you without a doubt that this came as no surprise to anyone working the case. WITHOUT A DOUBT. This was supposed to happen the day before thanksgiving and all knew... And the interviewing witnesses up to the previous day - baloney....

You have to wonder where Munson gets his info.
These un-named sources close to the investigation.

Certainly anyone involved in the case could NOT reveal that there was ample evidence and indictments were days away. That would be illegal. SmearJob.

Maybe Munson reads the forum and gets his scoops here?

 

[Race Radio]

Can you inform the forum from your inside knowledge whether there were any surprise witnesses?

If you can supply that information with identities now then in the future when that information is provided/leaked your insider status will be accredited.

Don't hold your breath for any actual details.....just more promises of the whole story.

 

[Ulle Relaxes]

Don't hold your breath for any actual details.....just more promises of the whole story.

This is patently false I now I will take the time to prove you wrong:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=788387#post788387
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=786657#post786657
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=786655#post786655

These are all proveable. Coming from Race '**** is about to hit the fan for Lance' Radio goober is a lot more direct.

 

[Anonymous]

I can tell you without a doubt that this came as no surprise to anyone working the case. WITHOUT A DOUBT. This was supposed to happen the day before thanksgiving and all knew... And the interviewing witnesses up to the previous day - baloney....

Ahem, yes, yes.

The most beautiful part of an anonymous interwebz forum. We can all be something we actually are not.

In real life I am a tall, bald white guy who works for he federal government to ferret out nefarious characters and bad actors.

I can tell you, without a doubt, you have no idea what you are talking about.

See how easy that was? My inside baseball trumps yours.

 

[MarkvW]

Don't hold your breath for any actual details.....just more promises of the whole story.

Dueling snitchmongers touting the latest SECRET insight into the secret grand jury proceedings. Sssh!

 

[Dr. Maserati]

This is patently false I now I will take the time to prove you wrong:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=788387#post788387
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=786657#post786657
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=786655#post786655

These are all proveable. Coming from Race '**** is about to hit the fan for Lance' Radio goober is a lot more direct.

All those were posted AFTER the case was dropped.

Goober appeared to be confident that the case would continue back in October...

Remember the name Mr Ball when shiet happens. I am getting tired of saying it for the past 6 months...

 

[Ulle Relaxes]

It's a still a prediction. Sure the odds have been improved since the case has been dropped but he can still be proven wrong. I mean goober goes out on a limb and explicitly says there will be evidence against 'two team managers'. Two. Not a few. Not a handful. But two. It takes stupidity or conviction to be that definitive.

The second quote we don't know what he means by 'sheit' any way it's sort of backfired on you because now if Mr Ball gets implicated in a case that was supposed to be about Lance Armstrong- that's another thing he might be correct about.

I know you like to argue but please see sense in what I have posted.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

It's a still a prediction. Sure the odds have been improved since the case has been dropped but he can still be proven wrong. I mean goober goes out on a limb and explicitly says there will be evidence against 'two team managers'. Two. Not a few. Not a handful. But two. It takes stupidity or conviction to be that definitive.

The second quote we don't know what he means by 'sheit' any way it's sort of backfired on you because now if Mr Ball gets implicated in a case that was supposed to be about Lance Armstrong- that's another thing he might be correct about.

I know you like to argue but please see sense in what I have posted.

Sounds like we have already met?

I don't particularly want to argue - however I do not see any sense in what you posted. 'goober' wrote about the '2 team managers' after the case has been dropped??

Funny thing is RR appears to have been absolutely correct - because the dropping of this investigation has caught absolutely everyone by surprise except Birotte.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Sounds like we have already met?

I don't particularly want to argue - however I do not see any sense in what you posted. 'goober' wrote about the '2 team managers' after the case has been dropped??

Funny thing is RR appears to have been absolutely correct - because the dropping of this investigation has caught absolutely everyone by surprise except Birotte.

Oh sure, after the fact he can say it caught everyone by surprise.

 

[Ulle Relaxes]

You make me laugh. There is simply no point arguing with you if you think Race Radio has 'been absolutely correct'.

because the dropping of this investigation has caught absolutely everyone by surprise except Birotte.

and a poster called goober.

 

[Race Radio]

It's a still a prediction. Sure the odds have been improved since the case has been dropped but he can still be proven wrong. I mean goober goes out on a limb and explicitly says there will be evidence against 'two team managers'. Two. Not a few. Not a handful. But two. It takes stupidity or conviction to be that definitive.

The second quote we don't know what he means by 'sheit' any way it's sort of backfired on you because now if Mr Ball gets implicated in a case that was supposed to be about Lance Armstrong- that's another thing he might be correct about.

I know you like to argue but please see sense in what I have posted.

Given that the Ball/Armstrong connection was know 1 1/2 years ago it would come as no suprise to anyone if Ball was charged....if they can find him

articles.nydailynews.com/2010-08-01/sports/27071353_1_rock-racing-doping-jeff-novitzky

 

[Dr. Maserati]

You make me laugh. There is simply no point arguing with you if you think Race Radio has 'been absolutely correct'.

Except Birotte and goober

Well, when the case was dropped if everyone came out and said, "not a surprise, we knew it for months" then RR would be wrong.
However Birottes decision caught out everyone (including goober, who last October was saying to expect charges)