US prosecutors drop case against Armstrong/USPS

[LarryBudMelman]

Comedy!

The next Sports Illustrated article will either be an Apology Piece or a Critique of Wasting Taxpayer money on high profile athletes.

If it is the former - apology accepted.
If the latter - SI should release the article to coincide with the upcoming Roger Clemens Trial 2.0. What a taxpayer disaster that trial will be yikes.

And Edgar Allan Poe omg.
Poor Edgar should have gotten out and ridden his horse more often, would have been good for his disposition. Do give him credit for his famous quoth "Haterz gonna Hate" though. On his original tombstone I believe.

Yeah, by the looks of his last article they're reining Austin Murphy in.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...rmstrong-investigation-really-over/index.html

Edgar Allan Poe is very popular on the speedo circuit, no?

 

[Anonymous]

Yeah, by the looks of his last article they're reining Austin Murphy in.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...rmstrong-investigation-really-over/index.html

Edgar Allan Poe is very popular on the speedo circuit, no?

If it wasn't before it is now.

 

[MacRoadie]

The guy is like a roach he is impossible to kill

Brings to mind a few other people on here. Apples falling from trees, birds of a feather, and what not.

 

[Polish]

Edgar Allan Poe is very popular on the speedo circuit, no?

This post is USELESS without pictures.

 

[Anonymous]

Well, it didn't take long for Lehane and Keker to find another shady character to work for.

http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/211683-climate-scientist-admits-hes-source-of-leaked-documents

No word of Fabiani being involved... yet.

 

[Race Radio]

Well, it didn't take long for Lehane and Keker to find another shady character to work for.

http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/211683-climate-scientist-admits-hes-source-of-leaked-documents

No word of Fabiani being involved... yet.

Kekker is one of the most expensive lawyers in America, $950 per hour. He earned every penny he billed Wonderboy.

 

[thehog]

Kekker is one of the most expensive lawyers in America, $950 per hour. He earned every penny he billed Wonderboy.

$950 an hour is nothing!

He charges a lot more than that!

 

[BotanyBay]

$950 an hour is nothing!

He charges a lot more than that!

That's just HIS billing rate. I'm sure that there's a whole entourage of $500/hour people that accompany him.

 

[leftover pie]

That's just HIS billing rate. I'm sure that there's a whole entourage of $500/hour people that accompany him.

i'd love to get a job as the photocopy dude, i'm sure he still gets $50-75 p/h.

plus expenses*


*no idea what expenses a photocopy dude would have

i'm sure there are a few there to beef up the bill.

 

[stephens]

Getting Barry Bonds convicted on lying to the GJ is hardly a "big win".

For the record, Bonds was not convicted of lying to the GJ. He was convicted of obstruction of justice for telling a rambling story about growing up the son of a pro baseball player, blah, blah, blah as an answer to a question, instead of directly answering the question. Most likely this conviction will be reversed on appeal.

As for Betsy, on the one hand she's proven to be tough and has had to put up with a lot of abuse she doesn't deserve. And I know she kind of got dragged in to it by being questioned about a conversation she may have overheard. But I can't help but put myself in those shoes and I can honestly say that I would have viewed that conversation as none of my business and would have never revealed the contents of that conversation to anyone. "I don't recall" and if pressed about my presence there, I'd have continued, "I don't know man, I don't make a point of listening to conversations between a patient and their doctors since it's a private thing," would have been my reply if asked. I mean, what business would it have been of mine?

If I felt bad about the situation and really wanted to clean up cycling, I'd have pressed Lance to come clean himself, harassed him about it privately for years, I'd have campaigned against doping in other ways, heck maybe even worked with the doping authorities to develop ways to catch these guys red handed. But there is just something untoward about revealing a man's words, especially words (allegedly) spoken in such desperate times, and I could have never done it.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

For the record, Bonds was not convicted of lying to the GJ. He was convicted of obstruction of justice for telling a rambling story about growing up the son of a pro baseball player, blah, blah, blah as an answer to a question, instead of directly answering the question. Most likely this conviction will be reversed on appeal.

As for Betsy, on the one hand she's proven to be tough and has had to put up with a lot of abuse she doesn't deserve. And I know she kind of got dragged in to it by being questioned about a conversation she may have overheard. But I can't help but put myself in those shoes and I can honestly say that I would have viewed that conversation as none of my business and would have never revealed the contents of that conversation to anyone. "I don't recall" and if pressed about my presence there, I'd have continued, "I don't know man, I don't make a point of listening to conversations between a patient and their doctors since it's a private thing," would have been my reply if asked. I mean, what business would it have been of mine?

If I felt bad about the situation and really wanted to clean up cycling, I'd have pressed Lance to come clean himself, harassed him about it privately for years, I'd have campaigned against doping in other ways, heck maybe even worked with the doping authorities to develop ways to catch these guys red handed. But there is just something untoward about revealing a man's words, especially words (allegedly) spoken in such desperate times, and I could have never done it.

Filed under:

Let Lances Lies Livestrong.

 

[stephens]

It may be my business to try to end doping in cycling. It's not my business to repeat a dying man's words. Catch him some other way, would have been my take on it.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

It may be my business to try to end doping in cycling. It's not my business to repeat a dying man's words. Catch him some other way, would have been my take on it.

This may come as a shock - but Lance did not actually die and he actually recovered quite well.

Betsy was asked under oath to recount what she heard - I realize it may not be that big a deal for you to lie and that if you did that to the Feds you could end up in jail, but obviously Betsy doesn't have your strength of character.

 

[aphronesis]

This may come as a shock - but Lance did not actually die and he actually recovered quite well.

Betsy was asked under oath to recount what she heard - I realize it may not be that big a deal for you to lie and that if you did that to the Feds you could end up in jail, but obviously Betsy doesn't have your strength of character.

She was not asked by the Feds the first time around, was she? It's fine to laud her actions, but no need to fudge the details.

 

[stephens]

I'm not criticizing her for the choice she made or saying it is any less or more moral than staying out of it. But it's clearly one of those "buy the ticket, take the ride," kind of situations.

 

[mewmewmew13]

I'm not criticizing her for the choice she made or saying it is any less or more moral than staying out of it. But it's clearly one of those "buy the ticket, take the ride," kind of situations.

Oh clearly.

 

[hrotha]

I'm amazed by the notion that, if something isn't your business, you should lie about it in court, potentially getting into legal trouble, instead of simply saying the truth.

 

[thehog]

She was not asked by the Feds the first time around, was she? It's fine to laud her actions, but no need to fudge the details.

You're good. One might refer to the SCA trial where she was called in to lie for Lance and ended up telling the truth.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

She was not asked by the Feds the first time around, was she? It's fine to laud her actions, but no need to fudge the details.

I am not the one fudging details - read it again and look where I put the "and"..and read what I put after it.

 

[TheNightRider]

You're good. One might refer to the SCA trial where she was called in to lie for Lance and ended up telling the truth.

Would you trust someone who claims to reveal people's private conversations with their doctor in their hospital bed? That is a betrayal of trust like no other in my book. No wonder the Feds were suspicious of her.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Would you trust someone who claims to reveal people's private conversations with their doctor in their hospital bed? That is a betrayal of trust like no other in my book. No wonder the Feds were suspicious of her.

First post, welcome.
It is not a private conversation when you talk in front of a room of people.
Of course the Feds were not suspicious of her - thats why the merely took statements from Betsy & Frankie but hauled Stephanie in front of a GJ.


Damn, I remember The Arbiter admitting that Betsy should have lied to protect Lance. Great days.

 

[Race Radio]

Would you trust someone who claims to reveal people's private conversations with their doctor in their hospital bed? That is a betrayal of trust like no other in my book. No wonder the Feds were suspicious of her.

Are you are referring to Stephanie, who told anyone that would listen what she heard in the hospital room....then lied on the stand?

I can understand why the Fed's did not trust Stephanie after she lied in the SCA case. No wonder she was dragged in front of the Grand Jury when everyone else got to talk to investigators.

 

[TheNightRider]

First post, welcome.
It is not a private conversation when you talk in front of a room of people.
Of course the Feds were not suspicious of her - thats why the merely took statements from Betsy & Frankie but hauled Stephanie in front of a GJ.

Damn, I remember The Arbiter admitting that Betsy should have lied to protect Lance. Great days.

The doctor/patient relationship is viewed globally as extremely personal and confidential. If you are a guest in the room of a seriously ill patient it's not seen as good ethics to break that confidentiality. You of all people should understand this.

The feds probably rejected her evidence because either she broke this famous ethical code, or she thought there was nothing wrong with pretending to have broken it. Someone like this would never stand up in court as credible.

 

[Cal_Joe]

Sports Illustrated article is back in the pipeline my sources tell me..... More to come indeed.

...I never made anything up....

This is getting to be comedy gold. I love this stuff.

 

[TheNightRider]

Are you are referring to Stephanie, who told anyone that would listen what she heard in the hospital room....then lied on the stand?

I can understand why the Fed's did not trust Stephanie after she lied in the SCA case. No wonder she was dragged in front of the Grand Jury when everyone else got to talk to investigators.

If the feds thought she lied on the stand, they would have pursued perjury charges. They obviously viewed her as a credible witness who could confirm Armstrong's story, whereas they were not interested in Betsy due to her credibility problems.