US prosecutors drop case against Armstrong/USPS

[The Plediadian]

I was wrong, money was enough to buy his way out of this. Money wins again. Yeah Money!

Lance fan here who would have to agree with you here Race Radio. We all know what the bottom line is in life and sports.

As for the USDA investigation(and I bet they have a whopping bit of evidence, pro or con against Armstrong, his team mates,) I see them milking it out for as long as possible.

Because in the end money rules. That goes for Novitzky and the USDA.
Doping investigations provide work for the USDA, its investigators, attorneys, bean counters right down to girl Friday and the file clerks.

Another drain on the American taxpayers, in a downward spiraling economy,more doom and gloom.

As for top witnesses, you had, hacker,blackmailer,admitted drug cheat and general rogue Floyd Landis, the man who had an epic ride, and for the life of him couldn't make a comeback after his ban.

You had Mr. Tyler Hamilton, a three times caught red handed drug cheat, who conveniently came clean when he had chance to air out his laundry on US national prime time TV.

You had Frankie and Betsy Andreu, Frankie an admitted doper, and Betsy the princess of propriety.

Anyone else have I left out?

So much speculation and she said he said.

Courts don't work that way except for kangaroo courts.

 

[offbyone]

I wonder how many posters just committed suicide? All their obsessive hopes and dreams gone just like that, now they are destined to be unfulfilled in life.

Hopefully this is the end of the endless lance talk. He isn't winning any races anymore so who cares anyways. At the very least I am particularly happy because this means the government has stopped spending my tax dollars to prove something we already know and in the end this seemed more about novitsky's career than lance's.
We should focus our energy on finding some new villains to target and obsess on

 

[The Plediadian]

Absolute bummer.

I really hope this won't be the end of the Lance Armstrong thread. There is so much entertainment here.

Maybe some of the faithful can get together and file some kind of a civil lawsuit.

I guess Tyler Hamilton could sue for placeboes in the white lunch bag?

 

[ChrisE]

I wonder how many posters just committed suicide? All their obsessive hopes and dreams gone just like that, now they are destined to be unfulfilled in life.

No no. We still have the USADA to fulfill our vast emotional cavity. Then we have St. Peter. Surely St. Peter will nab him.

 

[MarkvW]

Race Radio won't be able to sleep for the next 6 months.

Soo... You are just going to pretend it doesn't happen?

And I'm not saying politics was THE reason it was dropped. My claim it is one of a number of likely valid reasons.

Today is not a day for twisted Clinic reasoning!
Show me the slightest whiff of corruption, then I'll discuss.

 

[The Cobra]

As far as Im concerned this is the end of the Lance Armstrong story. No way in hell USADA will do anything, Lance gets to maintain plausible deniability (just!) to his fanboys and sell them wrist bands. His legacy remains intact and we are denied justice.

I'd be really interested to hear the Feds reason for dropping the case, surely there's a **** load of evidence to nail him?

 

[scribe]

I was wrong, money was enough to buy his way out of this. Money wins again. Yeah Money!

Actually, you are WRONG again. The gobernment could print all the money they wanted to try to bury armstrong if they wanted to.

I promise you this though, if it is any consolation, this is the last *** beating hand delivered by Armstrong that you will ever have to endure.

 

[Trailzz]

"I look forward to cont my life as a father, a competitor & an advocate in the fight against cancer w/out this distraction"

 

[ChrisE]

I guess Tyler Hamilton could sue for placeboes in the white lunch bag?

Oh man.

I said upthread I wasn't going to post for awhile until the wrist slitting is over, but I just can't help it. But, your post made the beer come out the nose, so that is a sign I need to be off. Congrats.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

USA should be ashamed of their legal system.

I disagree. I am proud of the rules in place (that Lance may have exploited) which keep the innocent innocent.

I'm not surprised there is no legal action. It was a tough hill to climb. However, it was necessary to get a foot in the door into an investigation of the Armstrong saga. Also, it was not fruitless (hopefully)

I am confident in the USADA's ability and capacity to develop a doping charge. Lets just hope the UCI doesn't try to finagle its way in their doors again

 

[hrotha]

This is depressing. LA still doped, still lied, still bullied many people, still is the biggest farce in the history of cycling. And he's going to get away with it.

 

[HL2037]

I disagree. I am proud of the rules in place (that Lance may have exploited) which keep the innocent innocent.

A system that lets people like OJ and Lance walk free is nothing to be proud of.

 

[MacRoadie]

Actually, you are WRONG again. The gobernment could print all the money they wanted to try to bury armstrong if they wanted to.

I promise you this though, if it is any consolation, this is the last *** beating hand delivered by Armstrong that you will ever have to endure.

I think he meant money talking through PAC's, lobbyists, and generous campaign donations, not a lack of federal budget money.

On the other hand, you are right: if the Justice Department really wanted to pursue this, no amount of private-sector money would have made any difference.

 

[ChrisE]

Actually, you are WRONG again. The gobernment could print all the money they wanted to try to bury armstrong if they wanted to.

I promise you this though, if it is any consolation, this is the last *** beating hand delivered by Armstrong that you will ever have to endure.

Look at Novitsky dressed up like JU in this pic.

OK, I'm gone. I am having way too much fun right about now.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Lance fan here who would have to agree with you here Race Radio. We all know what the bottom line is in life and sports.

As for the USDA investigation(and I bet they have a whopping bit of evidence, pro or con against Armstrong, his team mates,) I see them milking it out for as long as possible.

Because in the end money rules. That goes for Novitzky and the USDA.
Doping investigations provide work for the USDA, its investigators, attorneys, bean counters right down to girl Friday and the file clerks.

Another drain on the American taxpayers, in a downward spiraling economy,more doom and gloom.

As for top witnesses, you had, hacker,blackmailer,admitted drug cheat and general rogue Floyd Landis, the man who had an epic ride, and for the life of him couldn't make a comeback after his ban.

You had Mr. Tyler Hamilton, a three times caught red handed drug cheat, who conveniently came clean when he had chance to air out his laundry on US national prime time TV.

You had Frankie and Betsy Andreu, Frankie an admitted doper, and Betsy the princess of propriety.

Anyone else have I left out?

So much speculation and she said he said.

Courts don't work that way except for kangaroo courts.

Yes - you left out George.
Or is he now another bitter ex-employee with an axe to grind?

 

[patricknd]

don't worry guys, you can still talk about what a rip-off livestrong is. life goes on

 

[Hugh Januss]

"I look forward to cont my life as a father, a competitor & an advocate in the fight against cancer w/out this distraction"

Yes he can now take his rightful place in the sport hero hall of fame, along side OJ, Clemens, Bonds and all the others who largely got away with it.

 

[hrotha]

Actually, you are WRONG again. The gobernment could print all the money they wanted to try to bury armstrong if they wanted to.

What.

No seriously. What.

 

[LarryBudMelman]

Go to eat dinner and then....

And why not?

This thread hasn't been about Lance Armstrong for months. Long ago it became more about two polarized schools of thought, both more interested in being right and proving the other wrong (and insulting intelligence, sprinkled with name-calling).

For the past 50 pages, it's gotten even worse. Members who, in principle, agree with each other have been reduced to petty snarking over semantics and perceived innuendo. It's become worse than the meaning of "is". Even an agreement is met with doubt and subjected to dissection for hidden agendas or double meanings. Somewhere it went from disliking someone for disagreeing with you to not liking the way they agreed with you...

I've never been an Armstrong fan, and I'm probably one of the few on here who actually knows people who've had the misfortune to have dealt with Lance, but the fervor with which both sides of this matter have taken up arms left me wishing long ago that it would all be determined far out of the public eye.

I guess my apathy stems from the fact that the decision would not have affected me personally either way. For some on here though, the majority of whom have never met Lance or been affected by his ill treatment of others, every nuance is taken as a personal affront. I'm sure those truly affected by this decision (those people that matter) will address their disappontment in a manner and medium far removed from the CyclingNews forums.

So, let the "fanboys" have their share of the spotlight. There were plenty of "haters" who took an inordinate amount of pleasure in belittling and insulting when they felt they held the high ground.

Can't expect graciousness from a hater.

Mac, I really believe you're wrong on a lot of levels but it's kind of a balanced response.

I have to agree with TH"s tweet posted by RR. Money won, plain and simple. I think this sets a frightening precedent and cycling/sport in general is all but finished except as pro wrestling type of entertainment.

MarkvW's quote is apropos of the kind of attitude that is taking over.

Money won.. Very sad day for any kind of integrity whatsoever. Going out, later.

 

[mewmewmew13]

This is depressing. LA still doped, still lied, still bullied many people, still is the biggest farce in the history of cycling. And he's going to get away with it.

At this point legally ,maybe, but his reputation will never be the 'golden boy' that many once thought he was.
That in itself is one outcome of all this.

 

[SpeedWay]

Darn, back to watching the clowns at the circus. It's been a nice ride around here though. Reality takes no prisoners. Please check on the various Don Quixote's around here - rumor has it they were marching in unison to offer there heads to the windmill. Fanboys were right all along - who would a thunk it.

Sad, sad day for the American taxpayers who foot the bill for this mockery of justice.

 

[virandociclista]

We live in a bad world. the bad guys win everywhere..

Sad day for me....

 

[Trailzz]

full quote


"I am gratified to learn that the U.S. Attorney's Office is closing its investigation. It is the right decision and I commend them for reaching it. I look forward to continuing my life as a father, a competitor, and an advocate in the fight against cancer without this distraction."

 

[Hugh Januss]

Darn, back to watching the clowns at the circus. It's been a nice ride around here though. Reality takes no prisoners. Please check on the various Don Quixote's around here - rumor has it they were marching in unison to offer there heads to the windmill. Fanboys were right all along - who would a thunk it.

Sad, sad day for the American taxpayers who foot the bill for this mockery of justice.

Say hi to your mom in the tiny car for me.

 

[eleven]

Mac, I really believe you're wrong on a lot of levels but it's kind of a balanced response.

I have to agree with TH"s tweet posted by RR. Money won, plain and simple. I think this sets a frightening precedent and cycling/sport in general is all but finished except as pro wrestling type of entertainment.

MarkvW's quote is apropos of the kind of attitude that is taking over.

Money won.. Very sad day for any kind of integrity whatsoever. Going out, later.

Maybe money won. Or maybe, just maybe...crazy, I know...There was not enough evidence to convince a grand jury that anyone violated any US federal laws?

Nah, couldn't be that.