USADA - Armstrong

[poupou]

Yes, he was tested more than this. Like all athletes, his National Association is responsible for his OOC testing. In his case, this is the USADA.

The USADA has a record of 29 tests on Lance from 2000 to date. These can be added to the 64 UCI tests from 1999-2004. Combined, we have a total of 93 tests.

He may have broken the 100 test barrier with 2005 Tour and the UCI-administered Passport tests.

Passport tests are/were conducted ~ quarterly. But, this Passport program is NOT recognized by WADA and does not count as a doping test.

If you feel generous, perhaps you can go as high as 110 or even 120 official doping tests throughout his career. This would be less than 1/4 than what is claimed.

The only other tests not included here are the lactate pinpricks and whatever tests Ferrari did to 'monitor his health'. If so, then Ferrari must charge at least $1,000 per test.

Dave.

We have done many time the count of Lance tests.
With USADA and UCI, we were at those number before his come-back, I have around 85 tests from 1998 to 2005.

Lance should count everything even hematocrit check, and furthermore for him, if a test sample is tested for 4 different substances : he must count it at 4 tests! Of course, that is correct but he should do the same with other athletes... so Zabel with more 200 hundred tests has probably passed more than 1000 different unitary tests!

 

[Dr. Maserati]

The Catlin testing was private not anti-doping tests.

C'mon Hog - Lance needs those numbers to make the magic 500 (or is it 600?)

So far we have approx, 24 Catlin from 99 to 00.
The 63 Poupou linked earlier (99 to 04), the 29 USADA from 2001.

Then when Lance put his tests online for comeback 2.0 there were 33 from when he announced his comeback until the end of the 2009 Tour.
So far we have approx 150.

 

[Kennf1]

If these tests were 1990-2000, then they were not the 'special program' ruse 'to prove his innocence' that was was a part of the great comeback nonsense. Caitlin embarrassed by showing that he is not immune to believing that 'hope' could return.

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As I recall, the Caitlin testing program was cancelled by Astana (and Lance) before it ever went into effect, so Caitlin never tested him from 2009 forward.

I'm curious to know how many tests were preformed by Celaya and Ferrari though.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

As I recall, the Caitlin testing program was cancelled by Astana (and Lance) before it ever went into effect, so Caitlin never tested him from 2009 forward.

I'm curious to know how many tests were preformed by Celaya and Ferrari though.

Actually, Catlin did get one test from Armstrong at the Tour Down Under,
Unfortunately that testing had to be pulled because of cost.
(We will ignore that he got paid a massive sum to ride the race even though he had not been in the testing pool for 6 months as per the rules)

So, moving swiftly along, that's another test to add.

 

[Oldman]

As I recall, the Caitlin testing program was cancelled by Astana (and Lance) before it ever went into effect, so Caitlin never tested him from 2009 forward.

I'm curious to know how many tests were preformed by Celaya and Ferrari though.

If he was sick, it would be called a "doctor visit". We know he was sick alot; at least $800,000 worth in one year.

 

[D-Queued]

We have done many time the count of Lance tests.
With USADA and UCI, we were at those number before his come-back, I have around 85 tests from 1998 to 2005.

...

You know this, I know this, and so do the other ten posters here.

But, Lance still doesn't listen to us and still hasn't figured this out. The 500 figure is news, cause he just made it news.

This demands an entire round of face-palm debunking with all the incredulity and protestation that can be mustered.

Dear Lance, how can I believe in you when you lie, lie, lie about everything?

This

Is looking more and more like a ten most wanted picture, where our hope is that the truth will finally emerge.

Dave.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

You know this, I know this, and so do the other ten posters here.

But, Lance still doesn't listen to us and still hasn't figured this out. The 500 figure is news, cause he just made it news.

This demands an entire round of face-palm debunking with all the incredulity and protestation that can be mustered.

Dear Lance, how can I believe in you when you lie, lie, lie about everything?

This

Is looking more and more like a ten most wanted picture, where our hope is that the truth will finally emerge.

Dave.

There was certainly no hope in the world while Lance didn't dope and ride his bike. But good for the USADA that he brought hope and dope back. Because without it, they wouldn't be able to do anything about his lying and doping. Definitely "Dope rides again." Definitely.

 

[MarkvW]

You know this, I know this, and so do the other ten posters here.

But, Lance still doesn't listen to us and still hasn't figured this out. The 500 figure is news, cause he just made it news.

This demands an entire round of face-palm debunking with all the incredulity and protestation that can be mustered.

Dear Lance, how can I believe in you when you lie, lie, lie about everything?

This

Is looking more and more like a ten most wanted picture, where our hope is that the truth will finally emerge.

Dave.

.
With all due respect, if you kill something once, why try to do it again? Especially when you can refer the interested party to an earlier thread where the topic was killed and buried several times over.

Lance wants us to talk about his tests. Why indulge him? Isn't it better to focus on the topic at hand--USADA?

I strongly doubt that Lance will bring up the tests at the arbitration when USADA will have multiple experts who will testify just how those tests could be defeated.

 

[D-Queued]

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With all due respect, if you kill something once, why try to do it again? Especially when you can refer the interested party to an earlier thread where the topic was killed and buried several times over.

Lance wants us to talk about his tests. Why indulge him? Isn't it better to focus on the topic at hand--USADA?

I strongly doubt that Lance will bring up the tests at the arbitration when USADA will have multiple experts who will testify just how those tests could be defeated.

Ummm... because Lance's PR defense retort to the USADA action is that he has:

Passed
500 tests, and
raised Billions for cancer research

As such, this is about as on topic for a USADA - Armstrong thread as we can get.

It isn't my fault that he continues to flout the same old lies. I am probably more tired of them than you are.

Dave.

 

[simo1733]

Have the Armstrong camp advanced any credible theory as to why USADA would be motivated by malice against him.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Have the Armstrong camp advanced any credible theory as to why USADA would be motivated by malice against him.

are they bitter?
Have they been spurned?

maybe 'axe to grind'

 

[thehog]

There was certainly no hope in the world while Lance didn't dope and ride his bike. But good for the USADA that he brought hope and dope back. Because without it, they wouldn't be able to do anything about his lying and doping. Definitely "Dope rides again." Definitely.

Chewy looks like you're famous. You got a reply to your Private Dicks comments.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Chewy looks like you're famous. You got a reply to your Private Dicks comments.

link link
c'mon hog you know the drill here

 

[sashimono]

We have done many time the count of Lance tests.
With USADA and UCI, we were at those number before his come-back, I have around 85 tests from 1998 to 2005.

The thing you guys fail to appreciate is that not all of the tests were performed by the usual agencies. In the 500 tests, Lance is including approximately 300 incidents where he was abducted and anally probed.

 

[Caruut]

The thing you guys fail to appreciate is that not all of the tests were performed by the usual agencies. In the 500 tests, Lance is including approximately 300 incidents where he was abducted and anally probed.

Lance is going to be wondering how you got hold of the scripts for this week's twitter rant.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

link link
c'mon hog you know the drill here

https://twitter.com/#!/juanpelota

Juan Pelota ‏@juanpelota
@ChewbaccaD then anyone with Google is a private ****

I guess my personal information will be spread throughout twitterdom and further now. That's what Wonderboy does. He tries to get his minions to harm those who rattle his cage. I'll just file a harassment suit and drag his *** to Charlotte.

 

[Anonymous]

Chewy looks like you're famous. You got a reply to your Private Dicks comments.

Good to know Lance hangs out here in the clinic.

Lance, just come clean dude. Your fans will forgive and your non-fans will never become fans no matter what you do.

You are gonna lose much more if you keep fighting this.

Stop paying Luskin and the other legal DB's and just, for once, tell the true story.

You can do it.

 

[SilentAssassin]

Isn't it strange that Lance never tested positive, and all these other guys who were his teammates did? Seriously though if Lance was helping his teammates dope, why didn't Lance test positive shortly after the race like others did? Doesn't make any sense really.

 

[Anonymous]

Isn't it strange that Lance never tested positive, and all these other guys who were his teammates did? Seriously though if Lance was helping his teammates dope, why didn't Lance test positive shortly after the race like others did? Doesn't make any sense really.

You could start at the beginning of this thread and get answers to your pondering.

But trolling is more fun, right?

 

[ChewbaccaD]

My reply, read from the bottom up:

Thoughtforfood ‏@ChewbaccaD

@juanpelota and ****ing tell the truth you lying *******.




4m Thoughtforfood Thoughtforfood ‏@ChewbaccaD

@juanpelota You just continue to rack up more and more people in your wake of destruction. Save us all the mini-series or MSNBC special




4m Thoughtforfood Thoughtforfood ‏@ChewbaccaD

@juanpelota I used more drugs than you ever did. The difference is that I got honest about it and made restitution for the damage I did.




5m Thoughtforfood Thoughtforfood ‏@ChewbaccaD

@juanpelota I worked with kids with cancer be4 anyone knew who u were or you started to "raise awareness." I have several friends who died.




6m Thoughtforfood Thoughtforfood ‏@ChewbaccaD

@juanpelota I was in the wholesale mortgage business, so I was part of what helped crash the US economy.




7m Thoughtforfood Thoughtforfood ‏@ChewbaccaD

@juanpelota I've been clean and sober for 21 years. I ****ing hate bully pieces of **** like you. I an once divorced.




8m Thoughtforfood Thoughtforfood ‏@ChewbaccaD

@juanpelota I'll save you the trouble. My name's Trey Walters. I live in Charlotte NC. I go to Charlotte School of Law.




15m Thoughtforfood Thoughtforfood ‏@ChewbaccaD

@juanpelota Anyone with Google is a Googler. Private dicks are for *******s who aren't honest enough to come clean and need to smear people

 

[Anonymous]

My reply, read from the bottom up:

<snipped>

I wonder how much of this Lance is now getting daily.

Surely he realizes he is fooling fewer and fewer people.

How do guilty people behave? Like Lance right now.

 

[Stingray34]

Good to know Lance hangs out here in the clinic.

Lance, just come clean dude. Your fans will forgive and your non-fans will never become fans no matter what you do.

You are gonna lose much more if you keep fighting this.

Stop paying Luskin and the other legal DB's and just, for once, tell the true story.

You can do it.

This is the wise and honourable thing to do, which is to say Lance won't do it in a million years.

There's only two possible outcomes for Lance: an exposed liar and fraud stripped of his wins or an exposed liar, fraud, stripped of his wins and broke.

Keep fighting, Lance. The lawyers love you for it. When all this is over maybe you can start a cult with your gullible groupies and fleece them a second time.

 

[thehog]

This is the wise and honourable thing to do, which is to say Lance won't do it in a million years.

There's only two possible outcomes for Lance: an exposed liar and fraud stripped of his wins or an exposed liar, fraud, stripped of his wins and broke.

Keep fighting, Lance. The lawyers love you for it. When all this is over maybe you can start a cult with your gullible groupies and fleece them a second time.

All of it is a very good reson why young athletes should never be doped. He honestly doesn't know what he's doing. There's no other explanation. He's been drugged all his life since 16 and I'm of the opinion he doesn't know any other way to live. It's a actually very sad to watch. I've seen heroin addicts with less cunning than Armstrong.

Most of all I feel a large amount of empathy for his supporters. The ones who think he's real. The continued deceit and playing upon their emotions is cruel. It really is psychotic behavior.

I'm very sorry to seem him take it as far as he has. He should let it go for everyone's sake including his own.

 

[Kennf1]

My reply, read from the bottom up:

Well, it's good to know Lance isn't being distracted by USADA. He'll just spend his time being distracted by Twitter and the comments sections of news stories.

Oh my god, with all this distraction, who will raise his kids and run Livestrong? Oh yeah, (1) their mothers and nannies; and (2) the staff of Livestrong. Like always.

Another edit: just read that whole twitter exchange. Has JuanPelota's account been hacked by a 12 year old?

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Wow, never been in a twitter fight with someone famous before...

That he feels the need to try to fight back against me is further proof of just how much of a self absorbed *** he is. He fights them all so that he doesn't have to tell the truth. Fortunately, it looks like the USADA has the truth anyway, and all of his bullying and lying will be exposed...that is if he doesn't find a way to buy or bully his way out of it.