USADA - Armstrong

[mewmewmew13]

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4118228.html

Pretty rare commentary in Australia to bring up the 1999 positives.

Thanks Fermi for that link.
It's a concise report, but what interests me is the comment about his documented intimidation.


"He confronted French rider Christophe Bassons publicly during the 1999 Tour and did likewise to Italian Filippo Simeoni during the 2004 event. Both men's crime was to make comments adverse to Armstrong when they were asked about his performances."

This says more to me about the erosion of his 'mystique' in the general public than anything.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

I think you will find numerous posts in the clinic regarding LA's buddies at Google that have the ability to control the internet. Some responses to those posts say rude things about tin foil hats.

I believe that LA has brought the USADA site down, appropriated the URL, and it will be up tomorrow featuring an apology from Travis.

There was one instance where Lance made a response (I honestly don't remember which one it was) when it showed up in a fairly generic search as the #1 organic result the day it was released. Having worked at one time in a business that relied on google results, from the experience I have, it would be unusual for something that new to be the first organic result. Maybe there is nothing to it, but it seemed strange to me.

 

[Race Radio]

If you have some additional info on which witnesses did (and in what time frame?), and which did not, please share.

Otherwise it would, by definition, be hard to keep up with things.

Vaughters talked with USADA voluntarily in 2004. I know 2 other witnesses who talked in 2005.

You and your buddy JRT would like to pretend the more then a dozen witness were forced into to testifying but most testified eagerly.

This may come as a surprise to you but Wonderboy has more enemies then friends.

 

[Race Radio]

There was one instance where Lance made a response (I honestly don't remember which one it was) when it showed up in a fairly generic search as the #1 organic result the day it was released. Having worked at one time in a business that relied on google results, from the experience I have, it would be unusual for something that new to be the first organic result. Maybe there is nothing to it, but it seemed strange to me.

He is a shareholder in a Demand Media. Their entire business model is based on gaming Google search.

gaming online content is increasingly common, Lance is hardly the only person to use it.

 

[Cal_Joe]

RR and Chew****** - disappointed in your responses. Gaming Google searches is so last year. Would be more interested in your thoughts regarding the possible takeover of the USADA site by LA.

 

[BroDeal]

He is a shareholder in a Demand Media. Their entire business model is based on gaming Google search.

gaming online content is increasingly common, Lance is hardly the only person to use it.

It has become a lot harder over the last year or so. Google has changed their algorithms. The easy methods don't work anymore and can even be detrimental.

What might be interesting is to look at the link profiles of an article like that "opposing views" piece that shot to the top of the results. If a private blog network is being used then the hosts could be reported as violating Google's TOS. Google has deindexed a bunch of blog networks recvently. You could make the SEO company that Armstrong is using pay a price.

 

[Race Radio]

It has become a lot harder over the last year or so. Google has changed their algorithms. The easy methods don't work anymore and can even be detrimental.

What might be interesting is to look at the link profiles of an article like that "opposing views" piece that shot to the top of the results. If a private blog network is being used then the hosts could be reported as violating Google's TOS. Google has deindexed a bunch of blog networks recvently. You could make the SEO company that Armstrong is using pay a price.

Agreed, it is far harder. The far more productive route is to flood the comments section of articles

As for the USADA website. Likely nothing more then a DOS attack by an obsessed groupie

 

[MarkvW]

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/spor...ance-armstrong-should-refuse-play-usadas-game

Interesting article from an anti-USADA point of view.

 

[rata de sentina]

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/spor...ance-armstrong-should-refuse-play-usadas-game

Interesting article from an anti-USADA point of view.

You must be joking, Jenkins got off on a technicality relating to procedural errors in the conduct of the positive tests. Note the use of the term "procedural" is deliberate because technically there was nothing wrong with the testing. Trumpeting it as some kind of triumph of justice is rubbish, instead it is just an example of gutter dwelling orcs (lawyers) defeating heroic knights (scientists).

Jenkins coach was the notorious Trevor Graham, you can draw your own conclusions....

Your "interesting article" is just ranting propaganda in the same vein that seems to play well in the USA where paranoid delusions that the "guberment is out to get ya" gets traction.

 

[noddy69]

http://www.cyclesportmag.com/features/lance-armstrong-the-end/

old news rehashed but a good read all the same.

 

[Muriel]

re the date, which we believe to be the 9th, didn't David Walsh say the 16th in the interview posted earlier?

 

[Race Radio]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...famous-faces/2012/07/06/gJQA5FLoWW_story.html

Interview with Armstrong's paid liar. No surprise, he is a groupie

Wonder how long before he hates his client?

 

[aphronesis]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...famous-faces/2012/07/06/gJQA5FLoWW_story.html

Interview with Armstrong's paid liar. No surprise, he is a groupie

Wonder how long before he hates his client?

He's a DC lawyer, I suspect hate (as defined in your universe) is a long ways off.

Have you tried activism? I didn't think so.

 

[Anonymous]

He's a DC lawyer, I suspect hate (as defined in your universe) is a long ways off.

Have you tried activism? I didn't think so.

RR is pretty active in this case.

Luskin is certainly a paid liar. Accurate description.

 

[sniper]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...famous-faces/2012/07/06/gJQA5FLoWW_story.html

Interview with Armstrong's paid liar. No surprise, he is a groupie

Wonder how long before he hates his client?

comment from the comment section :

I've seen the way the big-name white collar defense attorneys work. It's a mix of law, politics, PR and a touch of skullduggery operating on multiple levels simultaneously. Unless the USADA is prepared similarly, they are about to get their lunch eaten

 

[aphronesis]

RR is pretty active in this case.

Luskin is certainly a paid liar. Accurate description.

Pretty sure that the first sentence of my post did not contest the paid liar aspect, but rather affirmed it.

I'd say RR is mostly passive, an active passivity no doubt, but still passive.

You remember Bebe Buell? That's who I think of every time RR trots out the word groupie. A groupie made good. Anyone not riding pro level is a groupie. And even many of those.

 

[Anonymous]

I don't get the feeling politics will play a huge roll in this case... particularly when compared to what happened with the fed case.

If there is political fallout it will happen after Lance gets his lunch eaten .. but not before. My opinion.

 

[Anonymous]

Pretty sure that the first sentence of my post did not contest the paid liar aspect, but rather affirmed it.

I'd say RR is mostly passive, an active passivity no doubt, but still passive.

You remember Bebe Buell? That's who I think of every time RR trots out the word groupie. A groupie made good. Anyone not riding pro level is a groupie. And even many of those.

I guarantee you Lance is very familiar with RR.

If you are correct, then less really is more... at least in this case.

 

[aphronesis]

I guarantee you Lance is very familiar with RR.

If you are correct, then less really is more... at least in this case.

That much has been clear for at least a couple of years. However, his proximity to this situation does not necessarily make him a clear guide.

There's a position to be held that statements of bias made based on personal experience are not strong arguments: they are bad and reactionary.

Put back in context and topic: it would be much more useful--and far less tedious-- to hear the info without the editorializing.

 

[Race Radio]

Pretty sure that the first sentence of my post did not contest the paid liar aspect, but rather affirmed it.

I'd say RR is mostly passive, an active passivity no doubt, but still passive.

You remember Bebe Buell? That's who I think of every time RR trots out the word groupie. A groupie made good. Anyone not riding pro level is a groupie. And even many of those.

Yes, I am just a passive bystander. Smartest place to be in a train wreck

A groupie is someone who ignores the obvious, blinded by their love of a myth. Luskin will wake up soon, but will be comforted by the $1,000 per hour to babysit his client

"People get close to Armstrong," says Jonathan Vaughters, a former teammate, "and then something inevitably goes haywire

Gotta laugh at that interview. The know USADA has Armstrong's number so their only option is to pretend that they will not get a fair trial.

This whole thing might end with a whimper

 

[aphronesis]

Yes, I am just a passive bystander. Smartest place to be in a train wreck

A groupie is someone who ignores the obvious, blinded by their love of a myth. Luskin will wake up soon, but will be comforted by the $1,000 per hour to babysit his client



Gotta laugh at that interview. The know USADA has Armstrong's number so their only option is to pretend that they will not get a fair trial.

This whole thing might end with a whimper

Well, if it's a train wreck you never had any control over, that much is true...

Luskin is a lawyer: they get paid to represent people. Your morals don't enter into the equation. No doubt some will do a more enthusiastic or lackluster job.

But you know this.

As to the definition of groupie, I think you should either lobby to get your definition entered into some sort of urban dictionary, or give it a rest.

Groupies by general definition are those seeking intimacy with a context: your posts suggest a high and realized degree of that.

 

[Jeremiah]

Yes, I am just a passive bystander. Smartest place to be in a train wreck

A groupie is someone who ignores the obvious, blinded by their love of a myth. Luskin will wake up soon, but will be comforted by the $1,000 per hour to babysit his client



Gotta laugh at that interview. The know USADA has Armstrong's number so their only option is to pretend that they will not get a fair trial.

This whole thing might end with a whimper

Very illustrative of the whole "kill the messenger" phenomenon.

As to the second bolded part, that's exactly what's going to happen.

Armstrong will be sanctioned and the real groupies will be even more desperate and pathetic until they accept reality.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Lancearmstrong has filed for federal injunction to halt usada's case, saying it's unconstitutional

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/cont...2012/07/09/lance_armstrongs_lawyers_file.html

 

[thehog]

Lancearmstrong has filed for federal injunction to halt usada's case, saying it's unconstitutional

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/cont...2012/07/09/lance_armstrongs_lawyers_file.html

USADA lacks jurisdiction to investigate and penalize Armstrong. It says that any investigation must come from the International Cycling Union, based upon language in the annual licenses each rider signs. The UCI’s main office is in Switzerland, and the motion says that the cycling union has indicated no plans to pursue a case against Armstrong, who retired from the sport in February of 2011.

The blood screens from 2009-10 were collected and analyzed by the UCI. There were no irregularities found by the UCI and the results were posted on its website and those maintained by Armstrong and his team. The blood then was discarded and is no longer available to be tested.

 

[Race Radio]

Lancearmstrong has filed for federal injunction to halt usada's case, saying it's unconstitutional

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/cont...2012/07/09/lance_armstrongs_lawyers_file.html

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