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Microchip said:
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Love the tie.
 
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thehog said:
You don’t know what you’re talking about. Just because you once filled out a form when travelling doesn’t mean you understand the banking industry.

Anti-money laundering laws apply to the transferring of monies between countries.

It’s a very important function to ensure companies/citizens are paying due taxes.

The reporting laws exist to kill SECRET transfers, hoggy. Open transfers, reported to the feds are totally cool. Many suspected that Lance might have been sneaking money to Ferrari, in violation of the reporting laws, but to date there has been no evidence of this made available to the public.

NOW, can you get back on topic?
 
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Excellent. McQuaid needed a 100k cheque in his pocket and a Sysmex machine sitting on the floor next to him.

And, even if it were legit, which it wasn't, doesn't that underscore the lie that WADA is in charge of all doping tests?

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Not sure if this has been posted yet - just popped up on Twitter

http://wada-ama.org/Documents/World...DP-The-Code/WADA_Anti-Doping_CODE_2009_EN.pdf

ARTICLE 22: INVOLVEMENT OF GOVERNMENTS
Each government's commitment to the Codewill be evidenced
by its signing the Copenhagen Declaration on Anti-Doping in
Sport of March 3, 2003, and by ratifying, accepting, approving
or acceding to the UNESCO Convention. The following Articles
set forth the expectations of theSignatories

...

22.3 Each government will respect arbitration as the
preferred means of resolving doping-related disputes

ETA: Signed by the Americas: http://www.wada-ama.org/en/World-An...-on-Anti-Doping-in-Sport/List-of-signatories/
 
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And, even if it were legit, which it wasn't, doesn't that underscore the lie that WADA is in charge of all doping tests?

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Dave.

Wait a minute, the IOC says the same thing with people caught doping. With the release of names of a bunch of olympic athletes caught by passport and proof positive EPO, a PR person of the IOC said "It's the WADA's issue, we have no part in this." WTF?!?!?!

This is why the USADA, UCI, IOC etc..are all jokes if they get involved with doping, like Amrstrong's case. One the one hand, at points in time, everybody points to WADA as the party responsible, then they all ***** and complain about it, not taking any responsibility.

The entire anti-doping process and systems/agencies and who is responsible for what, and has what responsibility and authority is completely a mystery to everybody under various jurisdications. Ridiculous.
 

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The entire anti-doping process and systems/agencies and who is responsible for what, and has what responsibility and authority is completely a mystery to everybody under various jurisdications. Ridiculous.

Hopefully someone who really knows the law - like Judge Sparks - can slap some sense into this mystery once and for all!
 

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Wait a minute, the IOC says the same thing with people caught doping. With the release of names of a bunch of olympic athletes caught by passport and proof positive EPO, a PR person of the IOC said "It's the WADA's issue, we have no part in this." WTF?!?!?!

This is why the USADA, UCI, IOC etc..are all jokes if they get involved with doping, like Amrstrong's case. One the one hand, at points in time, everybody points to WADA as the party responsible, then they all ***** and complain about it, not taking any responsibility.

The entire anti-doping process and systems/agencies and who is responsible for what, and has what responsibility and authority is completely a mystery to everybody under various jurisdications. Ridiculous.

To add to the ridicules nature of it all; back in day WADA were the ones trying to tighten the ship at the UCI. They continually told the UCI to control the doping. You even had UCI criticizing WADA asking **** Pound to stay out. Even Armstrong was writing letters. And now its WADA’s fault?
 
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zigmeister said:
The entire anti-doping process and systems/agencies and who is responsible for what, and has what responsibility and authority is completely a mystery to everybody under various jurisdications. Ridiculous.

The short answer is they are obfuscating the issue to keep their friendly stance on doping in the background.


The longer answer:
IOC/UCI are international/supranational organizations and cannot cross sovereign boundaries. So every country has a WADA office and an Olympic committee organizaiton and in the case of cycling, a cycling federation. For example, Someone from WADA can't speak for USADA.

The IOC/UCI leverage that reality to suppress their permissive attitude about doping.
 
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zigmeister said:
Wait a minute, the IOC says the same thing with people caught doping. With the release of names of a bunch of olympic athletes caught by passport and proof positive EPO, a PR person of the IOC said "It's the WADA's issue, we have no part in this." WTF?!?!?!

This is why the USADA, UCI, IOC etc..are all jokes if they get involved with doping, like Amrstrong's case. One the one hand, at points in time, everybody points to WADA as the party responsible, then they all ***** and complain about it, not taking any responsibility.

The entire anti-doping process and systems/agencies and who is responsible for what, and has what responsibility and authority is completely a mystery to everybody under various jurisdications. Ridiculous.

It may be more applicable in the UCI is messed thread, but please recall IOC Chief Juan Samaranch's response to Festina after Banesto and ONCE proposed making doping legal:

Drugs stance stirs outrage

British athletics chiefs have condemned the call by the Olympic boss Juan Antonio Samaranch to slash the list of banned doping products.
The International Olympic Committee chairman told the Spanish newspaper El Mundo that substances that do not damage an athlete's health should not be prohibited.

He denied that the IOC had considered legalising doping but said "the actual list of (banned) products must be reduced drastically".

He added: "Doping (now) is everything that, firstly, is harmful to an athlete's health and, secondly, artificially augments his performance.

"If it's just the second case, for me that's not doping. If it's the first case, it is."


And here is the best part. Cycling supports the legalization so that the sport can recover from its tarnished doping image:

But the directors of Spain's top two cycling teams welcomed Samaranch's call for the further legalisation.

The Banesto team director Eusebio Unzue said: "I'm completely in agreement with Saramanch.

"It's very important because our sport needs to recapture its long-held good image.

"His comments are extremely important and we have to take advantage of them."

The Once director Manolo Saiz said: "I think these were good words from Saramanch, to set us on a good course in professional sport."


Is it any surprise that the actions by both the UCI and IOC that followed Festina resulted in the creation of WADA?

Can there be any question whatsoever of UCI complicity in Armstrong's (alleged) conspiracy?

Before you answer that, consider that multiple witnesses testified that Virenque actively distributed PEDs, yet the UCI overruled Le Tour and let him race.

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zigmeister said:
Wait a minute, the IOC says the same thing with people caught doping. With the release of names of a bunch of olympic athletes caught by passport and proof positive EPO, a PR person of the IOC said "It's the WADA's issue, we have no part in this." WTF?!?!?!

This is why the USADA, UCI, IOC etc..are all jokes if they get involved with doping, like Amrstrong's case. One the one hand, at points in time, everybody points to WADA as the party responsible, then they all ***** and complain about it, not taking any responsibility.

The entire anti-doping process and systems/agencies and who is responsible for what, and has what responsibility and authority is completely a mystery to everybody under various jurisdications. Ridiculous.

Either you have reading comprehension problems, or you didn't bother to read because it isn't that complicated. You're just mad that Armstrong is finally going to be busted for being the doping junkie he is. Sad.
 
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zigmeister said:
This is why the USADA, UCI, IOC etc..are all jokes if they get involved with doping...

Yes, we certainly don't want the United States ANTI-DOPING Agency involved in Armstrong's doping...
 
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Okay, I made the changes, however, the quoted comments aren't picking up the updated cartoon. Here it is again:

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Microchip said:
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Okay, I made the changes, however, the quoted comments aren't picking up the updated cartoon. Here it is again:

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hey microchip, im certainly not the sharpest artistic person around here, but i do appreciate you investing time in keeping the place saner and even finding a chance for creativity. ...and idea, a hint...our phat pat may need the wada-symbal necktie :))
 
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hey microchip, im certainly not the sharpest artistic person around here, but i do appreciate you investing time in keeping the place saner and even finding a chance for creativity. ...and idea, a hint...our phat pat may need the wada-symbal necktie :))

No the WC stripes tie is a keeper, maybe with a WADA symbol tie clasp?
 
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python said:
hey microchip, im certainly not the sharpest artistic person around here, but i do appreciate you investing time in keeping the place saner and even finding a chance for creativity. ...and idea, a hint...our phat pat may need the wada-symbal necktie :))

Hugh Januss said:
No the WC stripes tie is a keeper, maybe with a WADA symbol tie clasp?

Will incorporate it in a new drawing, when some new headline hits. Thanks for the comments. :)
 
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