USADA - Armstrong

[PosterBill]

What blows my mind is that nobody that works for the UCI has stood up and said enough is enough. Pat is so incompetent that you might expect to have underlings dying for the chance to expose him. A published letter like that raises a lot of questions about the UCI that aren't even related to the case.

 

[BroDeal]

The lack of spaces between words and other mistakes leads me to believe that McQuaid may have tapped these letters into an iPhone with his sausage-like fingers, perhaps while in a pub.

 

[TheMight]

Page 5 Letter to Bock

"When I gave that interview people more qualified than I am in issuesof jurisdiction – and as you may understand have assisted me in our correspondence – werelooking into same. I wouldn’t think that statements made during an interview and unpreparedcan be considered as binding in technical matters as these. You will tell me that I had bettersaid nothing and I wouldn’t disagree.

Whatever I may have been saying during an interview you cannot deny that samples areinvolved in the case."

That sounds like he is talking about a conversation he had with someone outside a bar after 15 pints. Its Horrifying!

Leave him alone, he's an old man. He's confused. He missed his nap that afternoon.

 

[DominicDecoco]

Why would you write this on a computer without a space bar?

Edit; Beaten by BroDeal.

 

[mewmewmew13]

The lack of spaces between words and other mistakes leads me to believe that McQuaid may have tapped these letters into an iPhone with his sausage-like fingers, perhaps while in a pub.

I was thinking an iPad...autocorrect takes over on them and they have a mind of their own...that combined with tapping it out in a bar of course...

 

[Dr. Maserati]

The lack of spaces between words and other mistakes leads me to believe that McQuaid may have tapped these letters into an iPhone with his sausage-like fingers, perhaps while in a pub.

That's it - blame Siri.

 

[thehog]

To give him the benefit of the doubt maybe his computer was hacked and now he needs an exorcism.

It would have been better not to submit the letters. My feeling is these were submitted under servere pressure and that the regular legal council walked away. McQuaid ended having to draft most himself. Perhaps there are those within the UCI who no longer agree with the position that McQuaid is taking?

This will taint the UCI for years if they don't act now.

 

[mewmewmew13]

That's it - blame Siri.

Ah, he dictated them to Siri..

 

[AcademyCC]

To give him the benefit of the doubt maybe his computer was hacked and now he needs an exorcism.

You just gave me a laughing fit. I think i can honestly say its the funniest, yet most disturbing, letter I have ever read.

The previous quote about USADA letting dopers ride the Tour de France. I realize this could be used as a way of attacking the USADA, I was more just amazed he has the balls to actually write those words.

I guess he's just in a very dark place right now.

 

[MacRoadie]

My feeling is these were submitted under servere pressure and that the regular legal council walked away. McQuaid ended having to draft most himself.

 

[thehog]

I guess he's just in a very dark place right now.

You're right. Someone should check on him.

 

[TheInternet]

Anybody else find it odd (or, perhaps, revealing...) that despite citing the lifetime bans handed to del Moro, Ferrari and Marti among the areas where the USADA have overstepped their authority, McQuaid does not CC these three defendants alongside Armstrong and Bruyneel?

 

[ChewbaccaD]

If that fat mother****er and Cancer Jesus pull this off, I will never watch a cycling race again as long as I live. I will never even post about cycling again.

 

[Mr.DNA]

If that fat mother****er and Cancer Jesus pull this off, I will never watch a cycling race again as long as I live. I will never even post about cycling again.

I am with you. If they win out in spite of everything we've seen, then I'll have to conclude that pro cycling cannot be helped.

 

[PosterBill]

It's as if the UCI operates in a vacuum. I know of no other group that could pull off a scandal of this magnitude with such ease. Are there any major media groups paying attention to this insanity?

 

[Fatclimber]

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The previous quote about USADA letting dopers ride the Tour de France. I realize this could be used as a way of attacking the USADA, I was more just amazed he has the balls to actually write those words.

I guess he's just in a very dark place right now.

Yeah, I have no idea who he could be referring to. Levi, George, Christian? They're not dopers, they've never failed a test.

 

[Fausto's Schnauzer]

Yeah, I have no idea who he could be referring to. Levi, George, Christian? They're not dopers, they've never failed a test.

Riiiiight. Those are some of the most tested athletes in history.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

It's as if the UCI operates in a vacuum. I know of no other group that could pull off a scandal of this magnitude with such ease. Are there any major media groups paying attention to this insanity?

The UCI knows that most people really don't give a **** about cycling, and few journalists really give a **** either because their job is to create ad revenue for their employers, and cycling doesn't bring in the dough. Cancer Jesus is a cute sideshow, but ultimately they couldn't care less about the real details. They just hit the highlights and low hanging fruit. The fact that the head of the organization in charge of cycling is borderline illiterate, and making arguments that have never before been proffered for anyone else when there have been more than one person saying they were complicit in the whole affair just don't show up on their radar. Nobody but a fan of cycling is going to read that ****, and there just aren't enough of us who actually follow and care about the sport as our primary fans.

Even if Sparks dismisses for lack of subject matter jurisdiction (and if he doesn't, I will be shocked), the UCI is going to gum up the works as much as it can. Next comes an injunction filed by or on behalf of the UCI to stop the proceedings until a determination can be made regarding who should conduct the arbitration. The UCI and Armstrong's attorneys have already laid the groundwork for that as evidenced by their affidavit from Farrell. They will make the case that because they have consistently been listed as a body capable of arbitrating doping cases on the license forms, where the USADA were only listed as of 2004, AND the fact that much of the evidence regards the years prior to 2004, they are the body that should decide what happens with this arbitration. I fear they may have a winning argument there. Hopefully the USADA has EVIDENCE of the complicity of the UCI in the conspiracy already, but I fear that the link there is Armstrong himself, and without his testimony, there is only a suggestion of corruption, and not one strong enough to deny the UCI the right to choose how this case will be arbitrated.

Ultimately, a man with the power and money of Armstrong will always have a better shot than not of throwing a monkey wrench into any proceeding in which they may be involved. The fact that because of him, cycling did see an influx of cash and exposure it have never before seen also means there are a lot of people with a vested interest in helping him subvert the system again. Those two things continue to drive that sick feeling I carry that this will all end with Armstrong continuing to be able to maintain the lie that he never doped. On the other side of this, the people lined up to spill the beans about his doping will be the ones who suffer for the part they almost played in taking him down. The vindictiveness is strong with that one, and there will be hell to pay for many should he win.

 

[Cloxxki]

You're right. Someone should check on him.

And take urine and blood samples. Just for kicks. And a narcotics and alcohol sweep.

Better yet, give him advance notice (in good UCI tradition), and film him as he down litres of water, etc, etc.

 

[Boeing]

The lack of spaces between words and other mistakes leads me to believe that McQuaid may have tapped these letters into an iPhone with his sausage-like fingers, perhaps while in a pub.

the auto correct on the new samsung is a bich

 

[Race Radio]

The best part about all this is it just gets better


Going to be fun

 

[Deagol]

Pat's letter to Howman
http://www.scribd.com/doc/102482467/Fat-Pat-Letter-to-Howman
Pat's letter to Bock
http://www.scribd.com/doc/102482392/Fat-Pat-Letter-to-Bock

It is now clear that BPC is Pat McQuaid

OK, I apoligize in advance for this post, as I see there are several pages after it discussing, but :

for the love of *****, can someone please explain to me what the ****** he just said in that **** letter

 

[MarkvW]

McQuaid issued an imperial edict to USADA and USADA and WADA have blown him off. How does McQuaid respond? He sends rambling, poorly constructed letters demanding an explanation!

Why didn't McQuaid file a lawsuit against the contract-breaching USADA infidels? That is what any man with testicles (figuratively speaking) would do! McQuaid is watching a major jurisdictional affront to the UCI take place, and all he can do is write badly written letters. McQuaid has now precipitated a major rift between WADA and the UCI, and he's not going to take any legal action? What is the point? Does McQuaid WANT to demonstrate that he and the UCI are weak and ineffectual? He talks often about the "honor" of the UCI, but when push comes to shove, he ends up looking scared with a big wet spot spreading across the front of his pants.

It is obvious why McQuaid won't sue USADA. He's afraid that they will disclose something that he wants kept secret. Paddy' scared.

 

[Ferminal]

Second para in letter to bock "We also find it important that current cycling is clean and in this respect we regret usada probably allowed riders that admitted to doping to participate in the tour de France"

I'm speechless

That is a fairly solid troll by Pat.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

McQuaid issued an imperial edict to USADA and USADA and WADA have blown him off. How does McQuaid respond? He sends rambling, poorly constructed letters demanding an explanation!

Why didn't McQuaid file a lawsuit against the contract-breaching USADA infidels? That is what any man with testicles (figuratively speaking) would do! McQuaid is watching a major jurisdictional affront to the UCI take place, and all he can do is write badly written letters. McQuaid has now precipitated a major rift between WADA and the UCI, and he's not going to take any legal action? What is the point? Does McQuaid WANT to demonstrate that he and the UCI are weak and ineffectual? He talks often about the "honor" of the UCI, but when push comes to shove, he ends up looking scared with a big wet spot spreading across the front of his pants.

It is obvious why McQuaid won't sue USADA. He's afraid that they will disclose something that he wants kept secret. Paddy' scared.

Because if he intervened under FRCP 24, he ran the risk of having the question addressed by Sparks, and thus possibly losing his right to raise the argument in anything but an appeal. Having read Sparks' original deconstruction of Armstrong's original complaint, I think they all pretty much resigned themselves to the fact that he was going to throw this out on SMJ solely, but why take the chance he would get further into the arguments being made?

Tomorrow, Sparks dismisses for lack of SMJ.

Shortly thereafter, UCI initiates a suit to win the right to arbitrate the case.