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GJB123 said:Are you sure?
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ger...kloden-sinkewitz-and-kessler-for-blood-doping
If I understand it correctly, federal investignations have been halted but the German anti-doping organisation is just getting started.
Regards
GJ
lemoogle said:Haha the 2005 TdF
DSQ Lance Armstrong (USA)
2 Ivan Basso (ITA)
DSQ Jan Ullrich (GER)
4 Francisco Mancebo (ESP)
5 Alexandre Vinokourov (KAZ)
6 Levi Leipheimer (USA)
7 Michael Rasmussen (DEN)
8 Cadel Evans (AUS)
9 Floyd Landis (USA)
How many confirmed dopers in there? maybe evans will eventually get another tour win, for 2005..... or at least leipheimer
pugdog said:Armstrong is the scapegoat for cycling and cycling is the scapegoat for all other sports.
GJB123 said:Are you sure?
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ger...kloden-sinkewitz-and-kessler-for-blood-doping
If I understand it correctly, federal investignations have been halted but the German anti-doping organisation is just getting started.
Regards
GJ
In one article I read, Klöden was explicitly mentioned as one of the possible targets of a NADA investigation.Benotti69 said:Would love to kloden finally get done.
sniper said:More news that makes my eyes rain:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armstrong-case-reactions-from-around-pro-cycling
shows that LA's strategy hasn't been bad in terms of damage control
neineinei said:
Briant_Gumble said:I would't read too much into it they are PR and marketing people most probably who don't know a lot about cycling. Things are just getting started, it's like that YouTube vid posted earlier in the thread of Hitler receiving the news of Lance's ban, dressed like Lance: "They'll saw he looks like a ******bag!".
CobbleStoner said:sorry people, but this does not change the fact that he won 7 Tour's, he was the one that pedaled every stroke, he covered attacks, he attacked, he crossed every finish line, he stood on the champs elysees 7 times in the yellow jersey, you simply can not take that away from him no matter how loud you scream 'cheater' now.
I don't like Lance, nor have I ever been a fan, but this is very detrimental to cycling and helps no one, thanks Travis Tygart and POS rat fink Landis
lemoogle said:Haha the 2005 TdF
DSQ Lance Armstrong (USA)
2 Ivan Basso (ITA)
DSQ Jan Ullrich (GER)
4 Francisco Mancebo (ESP)
5 Alexandre Vinokourov (KAZ)
6 Levi Leipheimer (USA)
7 Michael Rasmussen (DEN)
8 Cadel Evans (AUS)
9 Floyd Landis (USA)
How many confirmed dopers in there? maybe evans will eventually get another tour win, for 2005..... or at least leipheimer
frenchfry said:It seems to me that the UCI have their hands tied by the fact that Armstrong went to the Federal courts on the jurisdiction issue and lost. If he hadn't done that they could still be huffing and puffing about how they should be the ones to dismiss any doping charges against Wonder Boy. I would think he is regretting that.
BroDeal said:Armstrong seems to think that the UCI will save his results, but I think there is a good chance that the UCI will wash its hands of Armstrong. McQuaid can claim that the UCI's hands are tied in the matter and it is obligated to follow WADA's rules.
The chance of the UCI being exposed just decreased significantly. Its best strategy is to bury Armstrong and leave his era in the past.
frenchfry said:Any comments about how no action should have been taken against Doper boy are ridiculous. What should we do - drop any anti-doping measures because we don't want stripped victories to go to dopers? Should we have left Contador alone? Landis?
Whatever happens to the 7 TDF victories doesn't matter, the important thing is that doping isn't rewarded.
It also seems that there are a lot of omerta lovers active in pro cycling. They should all be ashamed of their pathetic comments.
Can't believe just how active the interns are in the comments sections of the articles on this news. A major campaign of disinformation is happening.
alberto.legstrong said:1st off, if I can't be 10,000 then I want this thread closed. Where am I going to find 230 people to delete posts?
2nd and less importantly, ESPN is reporting that the UCI and WADA are both demanding that USADA provide them with the basis for their decision so it would be great to have all of that laundry aired.
I think today we get the reactionary support for him, just like so many other get when the painful truth comes out, McGwire, Bonds (to a less extent because so many hated him in the 1st place), Clemens, Tyler, Sosa but then as time goes on people sober up, the denials start to sound a little too insincere, and the truth is all we are left with!
(b<>*%tti that's a litte dry humor, I know how difficult reading can be at times)
Benotti69 said:I agree, Armstrong just did McQauid and Verdrugthem a big favour.
That is not to say they are off the hook, but Armstrong has not dragged them kicking and screaming into it.................yet!
But he may use Bruyneel if Bruyneel answers his masters command!
CobbleStoner said:sorry people, but this does not change the fact that he won 7 Tour's, he was the one that pedaled every stroke, he covered attacks, he attacked, he crossed every finish line, he stood on the champs elysees 7 times in the yellow jersey, you simply can not take that away from him no matter how loud you scream 'cheater' now.
I don't like Lance, nor have I ever been a fan, but this is very detrimental to cycling and helps no one, thanks Travis Tygart and POS rat fink Landis
Hey I agree, I didn't post that a means to defend Armstrong. I'd actually wish for every doper to get caught. As long as SOME people get away with it , it will keep going. Maybe we need a super dark era of taking measures against everyone. Things shouldnt take so long. People shouldnt be able to just pay to stop an investigation.frenchfry said:Any comments about how no action should have been taken against Doper boy are ridiculous. What should we do - drop any anti-doping measures because we don't want stripped victories to go to dopers? Should we have left Contador alone? Landis?
Whatever happens to the 7 TDF victories doesn't matter, the important thing is that doping isn't rewarded.
It also seems that there are a lot of omerta lovers active in pro cycling. They should all be ashamed of their pathetic comments.
Can't believe just how active the interns are in the comments sections of the articles on this news. A major campaign of disinformation is happening.
lemoogle said:Hey I agree, I didn't post that a means to defend Armstrong. I'd actually wish for every doper to get caught. As long as SOME people get away with it , it will keep going. Maybe we need a super dark era of taking measures against everyone. Things shouldnt take so long. People shouldnt be able to just pay to stop an investigation.
BroDeal said:The nice thing is that the UCI can dismiss any allegations from Armstrong as the bitter flailings of a lying dope cheat. Pat McQuaid likes the UCI's credibility.