USADA - Bruyneel, Celaya, Garcial del Moral, Ferrari, Marti

[RobbieCanuck]

babastooey

Bruyneel almost immediately responds that he is going to the AAA. The article makes it clear that if the AAA rules in USADA's favor, he is gone for life. USADA argued in front of the AAA that he should be banned for life. If Johan didn't fight it, he would have been banned for life. I can't stress enough how clear that is.

You are totally wrong. Bruyneel was entitled under the rules to go to arbitration. He lost. USADA then made their argument for a lifetime ban and they lost that argument and he gets 10 years. IF Johan had not gone to arbitration yes he would have got a lifetime from USADA but he did go to arbitration so what is your point?

The Cycling news article you cite does not say Bruyneel would get a lifetime ban if he went to arbitration it says he is facing a lifetime ban. ("Bruyneel faces a lifetime ban if found guilty") There is a huge difference between facing a lifetime ban and getting one. You have taken the whole issue out of context.

The worst part about it is that these guys can get a second appeal if they want it. They can still go to CAS. And why wouldn't they, if the behavior of the AAA is any indication? How are you guys going to react if Johan goes to CAS and states his jurisdiction argument again, and they decide to cut the half baby in half again and he ends up with 5 years? We could have liars and cheats with no respect for the rules back into the sport within 3 years, because they are backdating his ban to 2012. And people will argue that he has served his time and we should get off his back. Is anyone else upset about this? The worst part is, that people are put in charge to try to take this stuff out of the sport, yet the system is so easily worked by the cheaters. Weren't you guys so happy to see Vino win Olympic gold or Valverde win Fleche Wallone?

You obviously have no respect for due process. EVERYONE is entitled to fight charges against them whether it is on the merits or on the issue of jurisdiction. That is what a civilized society does. Cycling (the UCI) would be a totalitarian dictatorship if there was no recourse to due process for riders and this would also be inconsistent with the IOC Charter

Your righteous indignation and ill-informed rant is absurd. Don't forget if Bruyneel appeals to the CAS that is his right and yes the CAS may further reduce his ban. Is it likely - no. But the UCI and WADA also have the right to appeal to the CAS and ask for a lifetime ban. You really are ignorant of how the system works. You would make a great fascist.

 

[movingtarget]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/s...-standard-in-doping-punishments.html?src=recg

Hopefully the sentences will be appealed and more severe ones will be argued for.

 

[Benotti69]

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[thehog]

Stalking has reached new highs. Oh brother.

 

[Race Radio]

WADA appeals Bruyneel, Marti, Celaya sanctions to CAS http://playtrue.wada-ama.org/news/b...s-with-full-support-from-the-uci-and-usada-2/ want longer bans

 

[Benotti69]

WADA appeals Bruyneel, Marti, Celaya sanctions to CAS http://playtrue.wada-ama.org/news/b...s-with-full-support-from-the-uci-and-usada-2/ want longer bans

Good. A kick in the teeth to Johan.

 

[xanadu]

Agency appeals to CAS for unspecified increase

The World Anti-Doping Agency has filed an appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS), requesting longer bans for three men involved in doping at Lance Armstrong's former US Postal Service Team: team manager Johan Bruyneel, doctor Pedro Celaya and trainer Jose 'Pepe" Marti.

From cyclingnews.com 15,6,2014

It would appear that WADA have picked up a big cudgel and are intent with beating Bruyneel over the head with it. IMHO a ten year ban was insufficient for what was obviously years of systemic doping at USP. It is hard to believe that the trainer, team doctor and D/S were not cognisant with what was going on.
Such a blatant and prolonged infringement of the rules deserves the harshest punishment and that means a lifetime ban.

 

[Race Radio]

Johan, at the last possible minute, appeals to CAS
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bruyneel-appealed-case-to-cas-before-wada

Going to push the jurisdiction nonsense.

The good thing is when he loses it will add to the already existing precedence and stop others from trying this nonsense

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Is this the timeline of recent events:

1) December 17, 2013. London hearings get underway behind closed doors

2) April 22, 2014. JB handed a 10 year ban

3) ~May 12, 2014, JB appeals to CAS

4) ~June 2, 2014. WADA counter-appeals for longer term

And we only find out about #3 just now?

 

[darwin553]

This appeal against the penalty imposed of 10 years not being able to involve himself in the sport is all so ridiculous on Bruyneel's part on two fronts:

Firstly, the kingpin in Armstrong has confessed which makes any rebuttal he may have difficult to put forward so that it can be seriously considered and secondly, and if I have this right, he no longer wants to be in the management of a team so what is the point??

He should just cop it on the chin and better yet should come completely clean.