Velo d’Or 2023

[tobydawq]

The only thing of value Van der Poel can claim above that is WCRR. Pogacar can claim a TdF podium overall, 2 TdF stages, 1 major one week race, 2 major non-monument classics and WCRR podium.

You make it sound as though the WCRR is second rate compared to monuments...

 

[tobydawq]

Sepp Kuss....rode all three GTs, never in a designated leader role, and his 14th and 12th as the winner's best helper. that's a big feat in itself. And BOOM! La Vuelta. His case his unique. He won 3 GTs.

No he didn't.

 

[Berniece]

Whoever the French like better will win.

In that case MVDP will win. Merci Poupou

 

[CyclistAbi]

So i went ahead and voted for Primož Roglič. His results are up there, what made the difference is his signing for Bora.

 

[buddy buddy buddy]

if the question is van der Poel or Vingegaard it's exactly like the movie Karate Kid; privileged corporate guy, figlio d'arte two generations back, hero to the establishment vs scrappy outsider, the runt of the litter, needed to work in a factory, older asian man crucial teacher (maybe? not sure about the asian man part)

choose

 

[Elos Anjos]

if the question is van der Poel or Vingegaard it's exactly like the movie Karate Kid; privileged corporate guy, figlio d'arte two generations back, hero to the establishment vs scrappy outsider, the runt of the litter, needed to work in a factory, older asian man crucial teacher (maybe? not sure about the asian man part)

choose

Vingegaard is out of the Velo d'Or. No chance.

But if you want to play...at least be serious about it If you put underdog and a Danish man in the same sentence there's not even much credibility to start with.

 

[Elos Anjos]

So i went ahead and voted for Primož Roglič. His results are up there, what made the difference is his signing for Bora.

Seriously, you post so much and so often that it really gets boring to read you sometimes. No, Primoz does not deserve to win Velo d'Or. Sorry.

 

[Blanco]

Multiple people bringing up how big the Tour is but MVDP didn't even record a single top20

He doesn't give a damn about the Tour, he rode it like a prep race for the Worlds, and he's still the best rider of the season! Grande Van Der Poel!

 

[CyclistAbi]

Seriously, you post so much and so often that it really gets boring to read you sometimes. No, Primoz does not deserve to win Velo d'Or. Sorry.

Yeah. I don't have a life and am mostly a boring person. I tend to over compensate for it. Sorry about that. As for your assumption, on how Rogla doesn't deserve it. Get real.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Point taken. Now it's an off season again. Deserving paper favourites to be determined. Social media influencers to have a say in it. The same *** as last year and years prior. I am much more of a the rode will tell believer anyway. So see you at beginning of the next season again. Meanwhile feel free to have a fest, discussing on how Rogla doesn't even come close. As this is basically the only part of the season you can have that. So let it be.

 

[Blanco]

Winning 2 monuments and WCRR in one year always seemed much more within reach, even someone like Kristoff wasn't very far away of doing that in 2015.

Is that's why only 3 riders apart from Van Der Poel managed to do it?
And Kristoff was not really close of doing that in 2015.

 

[Elos Anjos]

He doesn't give a damn about the Tour, he rode it like a prep race for the Worlds, and he's still the best rider of the season! Grande Van Der Poel!

This year I cannot see how. If he won Vuelta, perhaps. And I believe he could have won it. But he didn't. So his achievements are a bit off compared to Pogacar, Vingegaard and MVDP.

 

[Blanco]

This year I cannot see how. If he won Vuelta, perhaps. And I believe he could have won it. But he didn't. So his achievements are a bit off compared to Pogacar, Vingegaard and MVDP.

And I was talking about Van der Poel precisely...

 

[Krzysztof_O]

In that case MVDP will win. Merci Poupou

Thats what I thought recently, Poupou makes MVP the favourite here

 

[Axel Hangleck]

Just because Van der Poel is not as versatile as Pogacar doesn't mean the bar should be set lower for him to win the award.

Only on a road forum would anybody say that, and with a straight face. Current World champion on the Road, and CX World champion (and in year's past has won MTB World Cups) If that's not versatile, I don't know what is.

 

[Panda Claws]

Only on a road forum would anybody say that, and with a straight face. Current World champion on the Road, and CX World champion (and in year's past has won MTB World Cups) If that's not versatile, I don't know what is.

Actually being able to TT and climb at a fantastic level.

 

[rallybanana]

if the question is van der Poel or Vingegaard it's exactly like the movie Karate Kid; privileged corporate guy, figlio d'arte two generations back, hero to the establishment vs scrappy outsider, the runt of the litter, needed to work in a factory, older asian man crucial teacher (maybe? not sure about the asian man part)

Doesn't need to be Asian. Pat Morita born in California...technically American => Sepp Kuss is Mr Miyagi

 

[Maxss]

IMO it should be Pogi, he had a super season and without that injury could've been sensational! MVDP is a close second so wouldn't mind him winning it as well.

 

[staubsauger]

Clearly should be Vingegaard as he clearly should have won the Tour de France & Vuelta a Espana double!

Hasn't happened so it doesn't matter much who inherits the Danes Velo d'Or due to the distortion of competition.

With all due respect for Pogacar & Van der Poel having fantastic seasons.

 

[Froome]

And I was talking about Van der Poel precisely...

Don't feed the biggest troll on this forum.

 

[Elos Anjos]

And I was talking about Van der Poel precisely...

Sorry, I meant to quote another post.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Don't feed the biggest troll on this forum.

I don't troll Dawg.

 

[tobydawq]

Point taken. Now it's an off season again. Deserving paper favourites to be determined. Social media influencers to have a say in it. The same *** as last year and years prior. I am much more of a the rode will tell believer anyway. So see you at beginning of the next season again. Meanwhile feel free to have a fest, discussing on how Rogla doesn't even come close. As this is basically the only part of the season you can have that. So let it be.

The road did tell, and the descent of Ganda decided that Rog would not match Pog in the Vélo d'Or race.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

im getting a bit annoyed by the constant "VDP was absent in the Tour"

I guess Philipsen won all his sprints by himself?
But apparently that doesn't count.

 

[bNator]

Seriously, you post so much and so often that it really gets boring to read you sometimes. No, Primoz does not deserve to win Velo d'Or. Sorry.

I think I figured out CyclistAbi😁 He wants Roglic for himself. Using the mechanism of irrational posting, he tries to alienate rational Roglic fan from the man himself, leaving him (CyclistAbi) as the last of Rogla fans. Some sort of Daniel Day Lewis😁