• The Cycling News forum is still looking to add volunteer moderators with. If you're interested in helping keep our discussions on track, send a direct message to @SHaines here on the forum, or use the Contact Us form to message the Community Team.

    In the meanwhile, please use the Report option if you see a post that doesn't fit within the forum rules.

    Thanks!

Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

Page 178 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community.
Toggle sidebar Toggle sidebar
maxmartin

maxmartin

May 19, 2011
4,857
2
0
Carols said:
According to NBCSN Vino told them he wanted to give the jersey away to save the team from all the pressure and work. Sagan would be a Perfect person to give it to if possible IMO. So not all yellow just yet, they don't even want the yellow top :)
Click to expand...

great a good friend keep yellow for Nibali for a while. Cannondale could be Astanan's biggest ally in this tour.
 
Jspear

Jspear

Feb 23, 2014
8,827
254
17,880
pigoonse said:
Nibali makes such a great road boss! :D

I don't get why people are thinking he will fail in the mountains. Did he not prove himself in the Giro 2013? To me, he improved from Giro 2011 to 2013. And Contador cannot be underestimated, I am not saying he has declined, but he has changed from his earlier years like he was in 2009, 2010, 2011. The point is, that it will be a new contest in the mountains. Comparing Nibs form from Dauphine to being the same when this tour gets to the mountains is barely, if at all, relevant. Nibali aimed to peak in the mountains for TdF, not Dauphine. He must understand what it takes to win a TdF - he has the experience and the skills. I believe he will win a TdF - either this year (looking very possible) or within the next couple years'.
Click to expand...

Sounds like you're saying he has declined. ;) He had changed from his 09,10,11 form in 2013, and now he is back. :)
 
pigoonse

pigoonse

Apr 16, 2014
533
0
0
Carols said:
According to NBCSN Vino told them he wanted to give the jersey away to save the team from all the pressure and work. Sagan would be a Perfect person to give it to if possible IMO. So not all yellow just yet, they don't even want the yellow top :)
Click to expand...

Must not be that easy to just give it away. One of those easier said, than done, situations. Sagan would be a good idea. I wish Nibali would have given the jersey up on stage 5. But he does make a good boss ;)

I am following by NBCSN too, mostly pre-recorded- the evening version. We must be hearing the same commentary, interviews, ect...
 
V

Vino attacks everyone

May 5, 2011
7,614
281
17,880
"There's two more days of suffering in the rain and then there's the mountains. Saturday, Sunday and especially Monday on the "quatorze juillet" are nice stages. The best defence is to attack. The team understands that we're capable of winning the Tour de France. The yellow jersey gives even more motivation to work for each other." - Vino

Vino is ready to be a "backseat cyclist" :D
 
E

Energy Starr

Nov 23, 2013
366
0
0
Nothing is decided yet. They haven't even climbed one mountain! Seriously people, none of you knows what is going to happen...you're just popping off about what you HOPE will happen.
 
murali

murali

Nov 26, 2012
3,216
0
0
vino attacks everyone said:
"there's two more days of suffering in the rain and then there's the mountains. Saturday, sunday and especially monday on the "quatorze juillet" are nice stages. The best defence is to attack. The team understands that we're capable of winning the tour de france. The yellow jersey gives even more motivation to work for each other." - vino

vino is ready to be a "backseat cyclist" :d
Click to expand...

epic
..........
 
Carols

Carols

Mar 20, 2010
13,082
3,249
28,180
pigoonse said:
Must not be that easy to just give it away. One of those easier said, than done, situations. Sagan would be a good idea. I wish Nibali would have given the jersey up on stage 5. But he does make a good boss ;)

I am following by NBCSN too, mostly pre-recorded- the evening version. We must be hearing the same commentary, interviews, ect...
Click to expand...


I am doing the live version so most likely you have updated info and interviews later in the day but they also cut the race to make it fit in 3 hours. I'm getting 4.5 to 7hrs! Even if I'm not home I record the Live version and watch that without knowing results :).
 
Carols

Carols

Mar 20, 2010
13,082
3,249
28,180
pigoonse said:
Must not be that easy to just give it away. One of those easier said, than done, situations. Sagan would be a good idea. I wish Nibali would have given the jersey up on stage 5. But he does make a good boss ;)
Click to expand...

Yes giving it away, especially to the right person isn't easy! Heaven knows those other 185 guys have their own plans on how the race will unfold.
 
Dedelou

Dedelou

Mar 20, 2009
1,273
2
10,485
Carols said:
Yes giving it away, especially to the right person isn't easy! Heaven knows those other 185 guys have their own plans on how the race will unfold.
Click to expand...
without bonus time for winning the stage it is harder to facilitate somebody "taking over the jersey without reducing the advantage one has on one's main rival. It is almost easier to add time than to attempt to loose time only to a chosen rider
 
maxmartin

maxmartin

May 19, 2011
4,857
2
0
“I know my rivals will be coming for me,” Nibali said Thursday. “I have a nice advantage, and I can use that to my benefit, but I know my rivals will be aiming for my yellow jersey.”

“The stage to Belles Filles is the first real hard stage we’ll face, and I know riders like Contador and Porte will try to attack me,” Nibali said. “I will not just sit back. If I have good legs, who is to say I will not attack as well? What’s sure is I can use my lead to my advantage.”

“I am calm now because I know the team is supporting me,” Nibali said. “Things have gone really well so far, and with the advantage we have, we will be able to carry the yellow jersey into the climbing stages. It’s better to have the jersey than to be chasing it.

Such a boss!!!
It sounds like Astana will not give yellow away to anyone else. Create history please.
 
maxmartin

maxmartin

May 19, 2011
4,857
2
0
Netserk said:
That was today...

They will probably not chase at all tomorrow and the day after, but Sunday is the perfect day for a big break to stay away and take yellow.
Click to expand...

no, they are talking about the tomorrow stage, and also look at my post #4380, I don't think Nibali wants to give yellow away.
 
cineteq

cineteq

May 20, 2009
8,934
7
17,495
maxmartin said:
no, they are talking about the tomorrow stage, and also look at my post #4380, I don't think Nibali wants to give yellow away.
Click to expand...
Maybe he doesn't want to lose it per se, but if the opportunity arises, the team might decide to do it on the road...candidates to take the jersey tomorrow.

1 Vincenzo NIBALI Italy AST 24:38:25
3 Peter SAGAN Slovakia CAN +44
7 Tony GALLOPIN France LTB +1:45
16 Yury TROFIMOV Russia KAT +2:25
19 Jan BAKELANTS Belgium OPQ +2:39
20 Peter VELITS Slovakia BMC +2:44
24 Tiago MACHADO Portugal TNE +3:59
25 Haimar ZUBELDIA AGIRRE Spain TFR +3:59
26 Marco MARCATO Italy CAN +4:08
 
Red Rick

Red Rick

Feb 20, 2012
49,159
35,437
28,180
maxmartin said:
“I know my rivals will be coming for me,” Nibali said Thursday. “I have a nice advantage, and I can use that to my benefit, but I know my rivals will be aiming for my yellow jersey.”

“The stage to Belles Filles is the first real hard stage we’ll face, and I know riders like Contador and Porte will try to attack me,” Nibali said. “I will not just sit back. If I have good legs, who is to say I will not attack as well? What’s sure is I can use my lead to my advantage.”

“I am calm now because I know the team is supporting me,” Nibali said. “Things have gone really well so far, and with the advantage we have, we will be able to carry the yellow jersey into the climbing stages. It’s better to have the jersey than to be chasing it.

Such a boss!!!
It sounds like Astana will not give yellow away to anyone else. Create history please.
Click to expand...

Like a total boss
 
M

movingtarget

Aug 5, 2009
15,636
7,650
28,180
cineteq said:
How do you know he rode 100%? This just was a prep race for him. I bet he didn't put himself in red once.
Click to expand...

As for putting himself in the red only Nibali can answer that one but it's possible to improve as well in that time especially as the Tour is three weeks long. I think it's pretty clear now that Nibali is all about the Tour this year. The Dauphine while a good race to win was more of a battle of egos between Contador and Froome and they both lost ! Nibali is in a great position and Contador has now also lost Hernandez which is a blow but as afar as GC is concerned this race has barely started. I'm sure that Garmin will try things a bit different. It was a shame for Nibali that he could not have handed off the jersey on the cobbled stage but I suppose you can't have everything.
 
cineteq

cineteq

May 20, 2009
8,934
7
17,495
movingtarget said:
As for putting himself in the red only Nibali can answer that one but it's possible to improve as well in that time especially as the Tour is three weeks long. I think it's pretty clear now that Nibali is all about the Tour this year. The Dauphine while a good race to win was more of a battle of egos between Contador and Froome and they both lost ! Nibali is in a great position and Contador has now also lost Hernandez which is a blow but as afar as GC is concerned this race has barely started. I'm sure that Garmin will try things a bit different. It was a shame for Nibali that he could not have handed off the jersey on the cobbled stage but I suppose you can't have everything.
Click to expand...
Good post! Plus they're concerns Contador is not in his best shape, the 'reason' he lost time on stage 5 doesn't make much sense to me.
 
LaFlorecita

LaFlorecita

May 15, 2011
45,171
617
24,680
cineteq said:
Good post! Plus they're concerns Contador is not in his best shape, the 'reason' he lost time on stage 5 doesn't make much sense to me.
Click to expand...

There are no concerns at all. Just speculation among rival teams. Wishful thinking on their part and also on yours.. The reason he lost time is because he didn't want to take risks (was scared probably) and because he had a mechanical in the last 20k. Contador is a 7 time GT champion, he knows how to time his peak right. He's never misstimed his peak, and why would he do so this time with De Jongh and Riis guiding him? :confused:
 
cineteq

cineteq

May 20, 2009
8,934
7
17,495
LaFlorecita said:
There are no concerns at all. Just speculation among rival teams. Wishful thinking on their part and also on yours.. The reason he lost time is because he didn't want to take risks (was scared probably) and because he had a mechanical in the last 20k. Contador is a 7 time GT champion, he knows how to time his peak right. He's never misstimed his peak, and why would he do so this time with De Jongh and Riis guiding him? :confused:
Click to expand...
Hmmm...I don't buy that, especially from a champion/racer like Contador. Sorry but it doesn't add up. I guess we'll all know soon enough.
 
LaFlorecita

LaFlorecita

May 15, 2011
45,171
617
24,680
cineteq said:
Hmmm...I don't buy that, especially from a champion/racer like Contador. Sorry but it doesn't add up. I guess we'll all know soon enough.
Click to expand...

Oh it definitely adds up, it's also what Michael Boogerd concluded. He was very cautious on the cobbles, it was obvious. Champions/racers can get scared on wet cobbles. I prefer to believe what all the experts say :)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Latest posts

Share this page

COMPANY
RESOURCES
FOLLOW
Top Bottom