Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

[staubsauger]

Didn't he complain about real champions not holding onto cars just weeks ago?

What a clown.

 

[del1962]

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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/nibali-and-aru-show-united-front-ahead-of-vuelta-a-espaa/

I found it quite an entertaining interview. It was interesting to see him make thinly veiled digs at Froome and Movistar, clearly there is little love between them.

I was impressed by Nibali's incredible calmness in that interview - he must be feeling very little pressure right now. Lo squalo è tranquillo. If he is in decent shape then he will be awesome to watch, attacking from 60km out again won't be out of the question.

He is also pretty happy about the relationship between him and Aru. I think Aru looks up to him, for sure. Like Nibali looked up to Basso, sort of way, but maybe Aru looks up to Nibali more. He is saying that he would be happy to work for Aru, which is more that can be said for Landa

I'm looking forward to see what he can bring us for the Vuelta.

I wouldn't call it thinly veiled at all, more Nibs telling it like it is Nibali said, adding: “At the time, I preferred not to mention it, but in 2010 Froome was excluded from the Giro for being towed by a car…” I thought it was a moto though. He obviously cannot stand the guy. Makes two of us Nibs .

Nibs is a team player, if Aru is stronger he will ride for him. But I hope both of them have excellent rides and give the old one, two punch. Landa is already 'short time' as we say in the US and he is Spanish. I doubt he will be accorded anything but a minor role by the united Italians.

Ha ha - the classless Nibali gets his welcome comeuppence

 

[Carols]

No disputing, he got what he deserved. He behaved like an A%^ and has paid the price.

 

[Rollthedice]

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Didn't he complain about real champions not holding onto cars just weeks ago?

What a clown.

No he didn't. The other clown, Froome said to his face some unprintable words because he attacked when the great white Kenyan hope had some problems with his gears, chain or brakes and made sure the whole press knows that Nibali is not playing fair. A few weeks ago Nibali mentioned that it's not nice to speak about fair-play when you are disqualified for holding onto motors, which we all know Froome did in his illustrious career. Today Sky, together with Katusha and Movi upped the pace when Nibs was caught in the crash. Very fair-play. That being said, what happened today was a dumb move by Nibali and was rightfully sent home.

 

[Electress]

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No disputing, he got what he deserved. He behaved like an A%^ and has paid the price.

Yes, disappointing to say the least. Sadly, it does not reflect well on his character. But I think it says a great deal about the degree of pressure he's under. Which is no excuse at all…what a idiot. He's done himself no favours at all this season.

 

[Billie]

Nibali will share his thoughts in tomorrows Gazetta

 

[Wattie]

“At the time, I preferred not to mention it, but in 2010 Froome was excluded from the Giro for being towed by a car…”

What is the Italian for "people in glass houses" or for "brazen hypocrisy" or for "My name is Vincenzo and I have no sense of irony"?

 

[JRanton]

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He's been a complete embarrassment this year to himself, his family, his friends, his supporters and to cycling.

He showed nothing at all before the Tour and then when he got to the Tour he was either busy throwing bottles at the best rider in the race, performing dreadfully on the climbs or taking advantage of a mechanical to the yellow jersey to get away. And now this at the Vuelta. The little piece of ***.

Fortunately we have a great champion like Chris Froome who acts as a tremendous ambassador for the sport. Where would we be without him?

To think there was that Italian, Nibali fan, who spat in his face in the Alps, makes me sick.

 

[yespatterns]

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He's been a complete embarrassment this year to himself, his family, his friends, his supporters and to cycling.

He showed nothing at all before the Tour and then when he got to the Tour he was either busy throwing bottles at the best rider in the race, performing dreadfully on the climbs or taking advantage of a mechanical to the yellow jersey to get away. And now this at the Vuelta. The little piece of ****.

Fortunately we have a great champion like Chris Froome who acts as a tremendous ambassador for the sport. Where would we be without him?

To think there was that Italian, Nibali fan, who spat in his face in the Alps, makes me sick.

In all fairness, was the fan Italian and a nibali fan, or are you just being a nationalistic *** transferring your hopes and dreams onto a basic jerk who would probably spit on anyone? please elaborate.

 

[IndianCyclist]

Today he lost more fans than for not performing in the tour

 

[StannisBaratheon]

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Today he lost more fans than for not performing in the tour

No.
It was a *** decision and you will see in the following days they are not consistent.
Nibali had loads of bad luck this year, culminating with mediocre form, he will come back next year to dominate the Giro and win the Olympics.

 

[hrotha]

It's true, Nibali and Astana are not consistent. Sometimes he'll grab the car, sometimes he'll merely have the car pace him obnoxiously.

This season he's been absolutely disgraceful, and not because he didn't win things.

 

[bassano]

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It's true, Nibali and Astana are not consistent. Sometimes he'll grab the car, sometimes he'll merely have the car pace him obnoxiously.

This season he's been absolutely disgraceful, and not because he didn't win things.

Yeah, I do not think he will loose so much fan because of that it was bad luck and Astana resolved it very wrong
who knows if team change could help him to be on top again from next year

btw. course of olympic race is just known? it seems it will be hard that some people is putting Nibali as a favourite to that race, I would love to see that btw.

 

[pastronef]

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“At the time, I preferred not to mention it, but in 2010 Froome was excluded from the Giro for being towed by a car…”

What is the Italian for "people in glass houses" or for "brazen hypocrisy" or for "My name is Vincenzo and I have no sense of irony"?

I did not watch the stage live yesterday, but when I saw the cyclingnews article "Nibali DQ for hanging on a car" I fell off my chair
priceless

 

[HelloDolly]

Nibali seriously needs not get some stress management. He is like a tensed coil waiting to spring. I know it must be frustrating if things don't go well but throwing bottles at the Tour and speedy away holding on to the car at the Vuelta shows a severe lack of character . But he did put himself under pressure all year by not riding for results and putting all his eggs in the Tour de France basket

 

[kirbygasm]

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I'd like to see his power data from that stage

 

[huge]

Interesting to see how many people are relishing at what happened. Haters gonna hate. Ask JRanton for that...

 

[whittashau]

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Didn't he complain about real champions not holding onto cars just weeks ago?

What a clown.

There is a huge difference between holding on to a car to get yourself up at a mountain, and than a rider who is trying to get back to the peloton after being held up by a crash

 

[No_Balls]

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He couldnt let a little dig on Froome/Sky escape. And thats why he´ll be missed:

“I chased back on to show that I’m not hurt and was fine until taking a 150 metre tow - a mistake that people are ready to throw mud at me for and attack me for. Yet nobody talks about the people who attacked when others crashed, about a lone chase against 18 attackers. No sir. In cycling the race is the race and nobody waits for you!!”

“There are lots of episodes like this in cycling and especially so after a crash!! I thought I’d get a fine and time penalty that would take me out of the overall classification. I’d have even accepted a ten-minute penalty. After all, I won’t be the first or last to do this kind of thing.”

“I apologise again if I’ve stolen your time and thanks for the support you may or may not give me. See you soon! Vince.”

As i wrote earlier there are some serious frustations brewing:

Nibali was angry and disappointed after the crash according to La Gazzetta dello Sport, blaming both Caleb Ewan and his Astana team. He was left waiting in the road for a new bike and suggested none of his teammates waited for him at the back of the peloton when he got back on.

“The crash was the fault of Caleb Ewan who did a crazy, aggressive move. Look at the video and you can understand why riders got hurt. Yet he’s still in the race,” Gazzetta dello Sport report Nibali as saying. “I went looking for him while I was waiting for a new bike but fortunately for him he’d already got going. I wanted to speak to him…”

After the crash Nibali was seen standing in the road waiting for a new bike, as most other riders quickly got going again.

“It’s fair to say that things didn’t go right. Everyone saw how long I had to wait,” he said.

“Everybody was shouting in the radio: Aru, Aru, Aru…. Did you see who eventually gave me a bike? Martinelli. And how much time passed before I could start chasing? I made a mistake but I would perhaps have gone home anyway. What was the point in staying?”

“As I said, I was left abandoned. Even if I was feeling good. I was hoping to get through the first week without losing a lot of time. It’s frustrating that I’m going home without being able to demonstrate anything. But I’ve got to keep my mouth shut.” ]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/nibali-left-abandoned-by-astana-at-vuelta-a-espana/

 

[doperhopper]

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Didn't he complain about real champions not holding onto cars just weeks ago?

What a clown.

Did you see the video? The car had clearly a mechanical and Nibs just gave him a little push, while doing a Spartacus alien acceleration attack from the front of the group. Cpt. Obvious out.

 

[huge]

I wonder if the quotes in Cyclingnews article about him feeling abandoned, and that probably he would have gone home anyway, due to the total lack of support from the team are first hand ones. I haven't seen anything like that reported by Italian media.

 

[Kwibus]

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I wonder if the quotes in Cyclingnews article about him feeling abandoned, and that probably he would have gone home anyway, due to the total lack of support from the team are first hand ones. I haven't seen anything like that reported by Italian media.

Just read that as well and went directly to this thread to check if he really did say this. If so it's obviously his last year at Astana.
TLJ will finally get their champion ;P

 

[ILovecycling]

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Today he lost more fans than for not performing in the tour

Not true for me,he overreacted because he thought they will neutralize the race (officialy or unofficialy)
I certainly hope he will go to another team

 

[No_Balls]

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I wonder if the quotes in Cyclingnews article about him feeling abandoned, and that probably he would have gone home anyway, due to the total lack of support from the team are first hand ones. I haven't seen anything like that reported by Italian media.

Wheter the quotes are correct or not doesnt really matter since his words reflects what we saw happen with our own eyes. He had to wait for ages and of course a proud champion gets furious with that.

 

[jojogogo]

The best thing for nibali is to leave Astana ASAP! focus on racing and not get drawn into making comments about other riders, or blaming riders for crashes.

Cycling use to be about how much time you could gain over your rivals either in the mountains or time trials. Now its turned into attack when your rivals have a mechanical or crash and try and gain time.