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Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

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Leinster said:
Rollthedice said:
Reportedly he'll use tomorrow 52/36 front and 11/32 back.
I’d be amazed if there’s anyone using anything wildly different from that. There might be some using a 53-39, but I really can’t see the advantage of one or two extra teeth up front.
Maybe the guys who only have to work early on and have already finished their job before the final ascent?
 
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SafeBet said:
After watching the women race I'm slightly more optimistic about Nibali's chances. It will be a super tough race, where endurance and tactics matter a lot. If there's one race Nibali can win even not being 100% it's probably this one.
His endurance should definitely be good after the Vuelta and tactics wise the team should be more loyal to him than to Moscon, I would guess. Also, the descend has proven to be more selective than many initially thought, so some positive signs there for him :)
Man, I'm getting really excited for tomorrow now :D
 
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SafeBet said:
After watching the women race I'm slightly more optimistic about Nibali's chances. It will be a super tough race, where endurance and tactics matter a lot. If there's one race Nibali can win even not being 100% it's probably this one.

His endurance should be top, his accelerations less but after seven hours and natural selection we'll see how it goes. If he would've been at 100% I think that the last wall, if that's where it's played, would've been no problem for him. After circa 220 km on this parcours there's a whole different race, I think we can look forward for tomorrow with serenity, the blue(s) brothers are ready.

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Rollthedice said:
SafeBet said:
After watching the women race I'm slightly more optimistic about Nibali's chances. It will be a super tough race, where endurance and tactics matter a lot. If there's one race Nibali can win even not being 100% it's probably this one.

His endurance should be top, his accelerations less but after seven hours and natural selection we'll see how it goes. If he would've been at 100% I think that the last wall, if that's where it's played, would've been no problem for him. After circa 220 km on this parcours there's a whole different race, I think we can look forward for tomorrow with serenity, the blue(s) brothers are ready.

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Last year he was easily destroying everyone on the San Luca in the Giro d'Emilia, which is a distinctively easier climb after a distinctively easier race.
 
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Rollthedice said:
So, in his presumably not top condition how much time does he need at the bottom of Gramartboden solo against a group of strong favorites chasing in order to start the descent with a 10 sec. advantage?
Try to calculate... you have the elements - the length, incline, watts... Include the disorganization between the chasers and you'll get to the number lower than the strongest chaser's.
It's about strength and guts. The race could be won on both, depending on what they've got.
 
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SafeBet said:
I don't think he should go solo before the last wall, but it really depends on the race situation.

If he' still there on the last Igls, I think he will try. If his shape is as we all think it is then there's a better chance he'll get dropped than to make a difference on the murito. My guess is Moscon will be the second card to play marking Ala, Bala and whoever is left and go mano a mano with them on the wall.
 
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Red Rick said:
SafeBet said:
You have to wonder if he's ever going to be back at his level. I'm starting to worry he won't.
Way too freaking premature.
Let's be honest: he was on the bike a week after the crash, he never gained weight and the base was there. A GT and two whole months of training later he still looks like the 50th best climber of the peloton. You will agree it's pretty worrying.
 
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SafeBet said:
Red Rick said:
SafeBet said:
You have to wonder if he's ever going to be back at his level. I'm starting to worry he won't.
Way too freaking premature.
Let's be honest: he was on the bike a week after the crash, he never gained weight and the base was there. A GT and two whole months of training later he still looks like the 50th best climber of the peloton. You will agree it's pretty worrying.
With crashes you never freaking know.
 
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One day races are too random but he still has the tactical awareness to be a contender even if not in top form.So it's worth trying as Red Rick says (even though a basal level of form is the minimum which he has not shown)
I don't know what B-M, Slongo and him have in mind for 2019.
 
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46&twoWheels said:
One day races are too random but he still has the tactical awareness to be a contender even if not in top form.So it's worth trying as Red Rick says (even though a basal level of form is the minimum)
I don't know what B-M, Slongo and him have in mind for 2019.
I'm gonna go ahead and guess one last hurrah at the Giro.

What a *** disaster it's been since that Sanremo win.
 
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SafeBet said:
Red Rick said:
SafeBet said:
You have to wonder if he's ever going to be back at his level. I'm starting to worry he won't.
Way too freaking premature.
Let's be honest: he was on the bike a week after the crash, he never gained weight and the base was there. A GT and two whole months of training later he still looks like the 50th best climber of the peloton. You will agree it's pretty worrying.

It actually was almost 3 weeks off the road bike...
 
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SafeBet said:
Red Rick said:
SafeBet said:
You have to wonder if he's ever going to be back at his level. I'm starting to worry he won't.
Way too freaking premature.
Let's be honest: he was on the bike a week after the crash, he never gained weight and the base was there. A GT and two whole months of training later he still looks like the 50th best climber of the peloton. You will agree it's pretty worrying.

He crashed on the 19th, had surgery on the 31st of July and probably started riding on the road about a week after, so he missed around 3 weeks