Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

[cineteq]

Astana is almost an italian team

Astana Team is more Italian than it would seem. italian riders and directors, and many of the kazakhs speak italian or have lived there

I wasn't talking about the language, it's cultural - it's no place like home for some riders. He's not Pinotti.
Btw, did you notice Vino's Italian fluency in the Giro?

 

[Ferminal]

sorry is it's a bit off topic

but if Liquigas will leave the sport after theis 2012 season, where will Sagan go?

please remember that Geox is a sponsor without any luck. They finished it after last year's Vuelta, they are bound to fail. Peter stay away from them and their ugly jersey design.

OPQS I hope

Sagan has re-signed with Amadio for next season and beyond. The only way he could leave is if a sponsor isn't found and the team folds.

 

[Gloin22]

No need to discuss anymore it seems

Nibali said to have signed €2.8 million contract with Astana

 

[Fetisoff]

Wow. 2.8 million. Do we know, who else in the peloton makes that sort of money?

 

[Zam_Olyas]

I would like a poll on big contract = failure/disappointing season ?

 

[Gloin22]

Gilbert, Evans ( ? ), Hushovd ( 2.5 ), Cav ( 2.1 ), Contador.

I guess Cancellara and Schlecks too but I don't have their numbers. Astana is well rich though and afford it, 3rd richest team in pro peleton after BMC and Katusha ( altough their tranfers usually suck and their riders are overpaid ). The comes GreenEdge ( with new sponsor Orica ) and OPQS. Sky and Movistar are about same position in terms of budget.

 

[TheEnoculator]

VeloNation just reported that Nibali has signed with Astana for 2.8 million Euro, unofficially.

Not surprising given that Astana needs a high profile GC rider after Vino leaves.

 

[TheEnoculator]

Wow. 2.8 million. Do we know, who else in the peloton makes that sort of money?

Contador makes 5 million Euro a year.

 

[Froome19]

Contador makes 5 million Euro a year.

...
Contador doesnt have a contract.

 

[Fetisoff]

Contador makes 5 million Euro a year.

Well, I figured Contador was making more than that, but I just wanted some perspective where does 2.8 million put him - I'm guessing right around Schleck/Evans/Cav area?

 

[TheEnoculator]

...
Contador doesnt have a contract.

I know that, but he makes that much when he does.

 

[rxgqgxnyfz]

According to Gazzetta (translation on astanafans with boss Vino pic) Vino himself did the deal and that was the reason for his Giro visit.

Nibali might also grab Angoli with him.

Also, Kreuziger seems to be staying.

 

[Michele]

Agnoli during an interview before the Giro said that he was waiting for Nibali to sign and then he would decide.
So it sounds like he's 99% following Nibali.

 

[Gloin22]

Agnoli during an interview before the Giro said that he was waiting for Nibali to sign and then he would decide.
So it sounds like he's 99% following Nibali.

I wonder he'll leave Astana. Brajkovic should as he'll get even less opportunities than now. I guess he could be coming to RSNT if Fugslang goes to Saxo.

 

[roundabout]

Vinokourov should retire after this year and if only Fuglsang left there really won't be many more oportunities at shack.

 

[Gloin22]

Vinokourov should retire after this year and if only Fuglsang left there really won't be many more oportunities at shack.

Yea indeed, it's just Bruynell worked with Janez and might want to see him back I guess.

And it's not like Vino lead any races this year too.

 

[roundabout]

Yea indeed, it's just Bruynell worked with Janez and might want to see him back I guess.

And it's not like Vino lead any races this year too.

Bruyneel working with Brajkovic is just about the only argument. From a sporting perspective Machado and Monfort are not worse over 1 week.

And Vinokourov might still get in the way in the Tour.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Jonathan Vaughters ‏
@fmk_RoI if I were Liquigas, Nibali would not be going to the Tour. Sorry. Why would any team invest in a guy that is one foot out the door?

 

[Fetisoff]

Jonathan Vaughters ‏
@fmk_RoI if I were Liquigas, Nibali would not be going to the Tour. Sorry. Why would any team invest in a guy that is one foot out the door?

Well, considering they've pretty much used up all their climbers in the Giro, who else would they send? Or just bail on GC all-together? That wouldn't really make sense. A win in the team colors is a win in team colors, no matter where the rider's going to end up next year, great for the sponsors too.

 

[Machu Picchu]

Jonathan Vaughters ‏
@fmk_RoI if I were Liquigas, Nibali would not be going to the Tour. Sorry. Why would any team invest in a guy that is one foot out the door?

never liked JV and I don't agree with him here, you have a rider who could podium, top 5 whatever, why wouldn't you send him? it would be good for your team, your sponsors, who else you sending?_?

edit: plus Nibali is 26/27 years old, who says they won't want him back in a couple of years?

 

[hfer07]

Jonathan Vaughters ‏
@fmk_RoI if I were Liquigas, Nibali would not be going to the Tour. Sorry. Why would any team invest in a guy that is one foot out the door?

that explains the entire nonsense with Hushov during last year's Vuelta: He was going to BMC so JV told him to fvck off..... nice

 

[Zam_Olyas]

that explains the entire nonsense with Hushov during last year's Vuelta: He was going to BMC so JV told him to fvck off..... nice

Yea, pretty much.

 

[Machu Picchu]

that explains the entire nonsense with Hushov during last year's Vuelta: He was going to BMC so JV told him to fvck off..... nice

Yeah nice, sets a really good example for any Garmin rider with a contract up at the end of the year

 

[maxmartin]

JV is an idiot judging from this twitter

Jonathan Vaughters ‏
@fmk_RoI if I were Liquigas, Nibali would not be going to the Tour. Sorry. Why would any team invest in a guy that is one foot out the door?

 

[Froome19]

Well, considering they've pretty much used up all their climbers in the Giro, who else would they send? Or just bail on GC all-together? That wouldn't really make sense. A win in the team colors is a win in team colors, no matter where the rider's going to end up next year, great for the sponsors too.

Well I can easily see Sagan getting double as many wins with Nibali not being there.