Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

[Fetisoff]

Well I can easily see Sagan getting double as many wins with Nibali not being there.

Well, double of zero is still zero, so yeah I can see that too

 

[CQmanager]

Jonathan Vaughters ‏
@fmk_RoI if I were Liquigas, Nibali would not be going to the Tour. Sorry. Why would any team invest in a guy that is one foot out the door?

Why? Maybe because he spent years riding for Leakygas and over the years delivered results worth of respectable treatment? Or because he wants to race and win some races for his team?

What a schmack. Glad JV is not in charge.

 

[ansimi]

Jonathan Vaughters ‏
@fmk_RoI if I were Liquigas, Nibali would not be going to the Tour. Sorry. Why would any team invest in a guy that is one foot out the door?

He's got it backwards. Having a top rider like Nibali on the squad is not investing but rather collecting a return on your investment. Thor had one foot out the Garmin door by the end of Classics last year and delivered big time in the Tour.

I could possibly agree with him if it were about a rider in early development like companies don't send employees for advanced training when they've given notice.

 

[trevim]

Jonathan Vaughters ‏
@fmk_RoI if I were Liquigas, Nibali would not be going to the Tour. Sorry. Why would any team invest in a guy that is one foot out the door?

Says the guy that denied a world champion a spot on the Vuelta team.

Vaughters is getting a bit to much annoying these last months.

 

[Pippo_San]

Now that his team won the Giro, who's gonna shut up that freakin' moron?
Lots of crap is gonna come from JV, this is just the beginning...

 

[Ferminal]

Jonathan Vaughters ‏
@fmk_RoI if I were Liquigas, Nibali would not be going to the Tour. Sorry. Why would any team invest in a guy that is one foot out the door?

Typical JV "me me me".

 

[pedaling squares]

Not JV's brightest move. Everyone pretty well knew that he screwed Thor over last year, but why prove the point to the rest of his team and anyone else who might consider working for him? Selfishness doesn't breed loyalty.

 

[karlboss]

Liquigas, why you would not send Nibali?

Really it would just be to screw Nibali and do Liquigas absolutely no favours. They could win the Tour with Nibali, at least be in the fight. UCI points for WT license can't be an issue for liquigas. I'm sure the sponsors are keen for the best rider on the squad to go.

As stated liquigas wouldn't be investing in Nibali by sending him, this is one of their last chances to collect on their investment.

If, as he's not allowed to, Nibali hasn't signed, there is a chance to add another million to his salary with a win

 

[maxmartin]

Agree with most of the part, but I am sure the deal was already done and just wait the right moment to announce.

Liquigas, why you would not send Nibali?

Really it would just be to screw Nibali and do Liquigas absolutely no favours. They could win the Tour with Nibali, at least be in the fight. UCI points for WT license can't be an issue for liquigas. I'm sure the sponsors are keen for the best rider on the squad to go.

As stated liquigas wouldn't be investing in Nibali by sending him, this is one of their last chances to collect on their investment.

If, as he's not allowed to, Nibali hasn't signed, there is a chance to add another million to his salary with a win

 

[pugdog]

Jonathan Vaughters ‏
@fmk_RoI if I were Liquigas, Nibali would not be going to the Tour. Sorry. Why would any team invest in a guy that is one foot out the door?

Oh JV JV you've got a lot of maturing to do.

 

[SafeBet]

Anyway 2.8M is a whole lot of money.
And this is coming from a Nibs fan.

 

[maxmartin]

Most Dauphiné are crap, but it is interesting to see where Nibali stands in 53kmTT against Evans, Wiggins, AS, Menchov and Cobo. I don't think Nibali has even done such long tt recently.

 

[Wigwan]

Liquigas will have enough WT points even if Nibali leaves. Not sending him to the Tour would only hurt them since nobody will want to sign with them after this and they would miss a lot of publicity.

 

[ElChingon]

Jonathan Vaughters ‏
@fmk_RoI if I were Liquigas, Nibali would not be going to the Tour. Sorry. Why would any team invest in a guy that is one foot out the door?

Some of you's need to think like a DS and not like a trophy giving parent of a kid who never showed up to practice for some random kids' sport.

Exiting UCI points to qualify or maintain ProTour status are not to be given away or allowed to exit stage left. Instead riders staying in 2013 would serve the team better or help maintain the ProTour status. Just imagine if something unbelievable happened to Sagan or Basso they'd be without those points as well possibly pushing them out of the ProTour range.

 

[hfer07]

So....... according to La Gazzetta dello sport - NIBALI TO BMC?????????

 

[SafeBet]

So....... according to La Gazzetta dello sport - NIBALI TO BMC?????????

He's going to Astana.
Szmyd and Oss should go to BMC.

 

[cineteq]

So....... according to La Gazzetta dello sport - NIBALI TO BMC?????????

I don't see it online. Link?

 

[Havetts]

Szmyd should get the chance to ride for himself.

 

[SafeBet]

Szmyd should get the chance to ride for himself.

Who in the world is gonna give a chance to a guy who hasn't even been a reliable domestique for the past 2 years?

 

[the asian]

He's going to Astana.
Szmyd and Oss should go to BMC.

This means Nibali is getting reunited with kreuziger. or is Kreuz moving away form Astana?

 

[SafeBet]

This means Nibali is getting reunited with kreuziger. or is Kreuz moving away form Astana?

Still unclear.
He might go to the new super team merging Liqui and Saxo.

 

[Moviefan1203]

If he goes to BMC, as is being speculated, won't there be a pretty big language barrier? He doesn't speak much English.

 

[cineteq]

If he goes to BMC, as is being speculated, won't there be a pretty big language barrier? He doesn't speak much English.

He'll be better off with BMC in the long run.

 

[Parrulo]

If he goes to BMC, as is being speculated, won't there be a pretty big language barrier? He doesn't speak much English.

bmc has a big italian contingent so it wouldn't be a problem.

but i think jens said this bmc rumors are a mistranslation from the gazzeta article. it's nibali and agnoli to astana and oss and szmyd to bmc

 

[Ferminal]

If he goes to BMC, as is being speculated, won't there be a pretty big language barrier? He doesn't speak much English.

Evans, Quinziato, Santa x 2, Ballan, Pinotti, Phinney... Italian would be their second most common language.