Vincenzo Nibali

[EnacheV]

Not all your posts are troll posts?

No, they seem that way because my posts are almost always responses to trolls.

 

[Afrank]

No, they seem that way because my posts are almost always responses to trolls.

Lol, I'm not the troll, you guys are the trolls. Good luck convincing anyone that's the case.

 

[rhubroma]

In my mind Froome is super dirty, uno zozzone, they would say in Italy. The way he road up the Ventoux was not normal. At Barloworld he was always "hitching a ride" on the motorcycles and now he's destroying Contador on the climbs. Unbelievable, because not normal. Nibali is also in my mind on a pretty sophisticated program with all that Kazak money behind his team and Vino as his mentor. Though the Italian is more enjoyable to watch.

 

[del1962]

In my mind Froome is super dirty, uno zozzone, they would say in Italy. The way he road up the Ventoux was not normal. At Barloworld he was always "hitching a ride" on the motorcycles and now he's destroying Contador on the climbs. Unbelievable, because not normal. Nibali is also in my mind on a pretty sophisticated program with all that Kazak money behind his team and Vino as his mentor. Though the Italian is more enjoyable to watch.

I thought this is a thread about Nibali.

 

[rhubroma]

I thought this is a thread about Nibali.

It is read the previous posts and the end of mine, before making idiotic comments.

 

[del1962]

It is read the previous posts and the end of mine, before making idiotic comments.

Please don't throw insults around, the thread has a topic and you where off topic.

 

[rhubroma]

Please don't throw insults around, the thread has a topic and you where off topic.

A topic goes where topics go del1962. Mine was in response to these thoughts posted up thread:

I can understand your love for Froome as expressed countless times on every possible thread on this forum which probably is the reason why you are in denial that his blatant overnight transformation from a bottle carrier to a potential new Lance is fueled by a clever doping program. What I don't understand is your hate towards Nibali. Maybe you think he will out dope Froome and snatch the TdF next year?

I thus do not think I veered away from the discussion on Nibali and the other considerations that were brought up. To say otherwise is dishonest and, from my perspective, idiotic, even if that doesn’t mean I was hurling a personal attack.

 

[del1962]

A topic goes where topics go del1962. Mine was in response to these thoughts posted up thread:

I can understand your love for Froome as expressed countless times on every possible thread on this forum which probably is the reason why you are in denial that his blatant overnight transformation from a bottle carrier to a potential new Lance is fueled by a clever doping program. What I don't understand is your hate towards Nibali. Maybe you think he will out dope Froome and snatch the TdF next year?

I thus do not think I veered away from the discussion on Nibali and the other considerations that were brought up. To say otherwise is dishonest and, from my perspective, idiotic, even if that doesn’t mean I was hurling a personal attack.

Sound like a lot of pompous stuff from yourself, though I understand your hatred of froome expressed wherever possible, and your utter hypocracy in accusing people without evidence, a bit like marxist show trials.

 

[Afrank]

Sound like a lot of pompous stuff from yourself, though I understand your hatred of froome expressed wherever possible, and your utter hypocracy in accusing people without evidence, a bit like marxist show trials.

The things being discussed were comparisons between Froome and Nibali, why Nibali thread is so much smaller then Froome/sky threads, and how how one poster can Easily see Nibali as being a doper while at the same time defend Froome and preach his cleanliness. Following these rhubroma was on topic with the current discussion.

Of course you'll probably just disregard me as another Sky hater.

 

[Parrulo]

What about dropping "the attitude" and leaving the mods work to the mods? Can you do that for me del?

And yes rhubroma was on topic with what was being discussed.

 

[del1962]

What about dropping "the attitude" and leaving the mods work to the mods? Can you do that for me del?

And yes rhubroma was on topic with what was being discussed.

So its ok in the eyes of the mods to call a poster idiotic is it?

 

[aphronesis]

This is puerile. He called your comment idiotic. Specifically "idiotic comments"
take a breath, calm down, and learn to differentiate the two.

 

[Parrulo]

So its ok in the eyes of the mods to call a poster idiotic is it?

He didn't call you an idiot, he said you made an idiotic comment, which is different.

But either way back on topic.

If it makes you happy i also think Nibali dopes. In fact he is tied with Movistar for second best program on the peloton!!!!

 

[del1962]

He didn't call you an idiot, he said you made an idiotic comment, which is different.

But either way back on topic.

If it makes you happy i also think Nibali dopes. In fact he is tied with Movistar for second best program on the peloton!!!!

It does not make me happy to say anyone dopes without evidence though, is the valid evidence against Nibali? I have not seen any.

This is why I would like to know what the outcome of his suing Ivan Fanini was, what happened to that court case?

 

[rhubroma]

So its ok in the eyes of the mods to call a poster idiotic is it?

No del1962 I did not call you an idiot, but what you wrote idiotic. This is a subtle (yes, I realize, this is rather difficult for you to comprehend), though defining difference, which doesn’t even conform to the merely semantic.

On the other hand what I had written about Froome, which simply demanded to be said - if only to defend ourselves from the credulous suckers who continue to wear us out with their insupportable banter (that these folks are often also fervent libertarians can only lead one only to deduce a cognitive deficiency among laissez-faire capitalists) - was perfectly legitimatized within the context of previous posts; which, at this point in the discussion, as Parrulo rightly pointed out, was about comparing Froome to Nibali.

 

[del1962]

Yes Rhubroma nobody has ever accused Froome in the clinic before.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

It does not make me happy to say anyone dopes without evidence though, is the valid evidence against Nibali? I have not seen any.

This is why I would like to know what the oiutcome of his suing Ivan Fananini was, what happened to that court case?

Then why visit here?
It is a forum, a place to discuss the issues - not to hand out punishment or find people guilty.
It is odd that on another thread you are suspicious of Cancellara because of comments made by Rock Racing cyclists than Nibali based on the same "evidence".

 

[del1962]

Then why visit here?
It is a forum, a place to discuss the issues - not to hand out punishment or find people guilty.
It is odd that on another thread you are suspicious of Cancellara because of comments made by Rock Racing cyclists than Nibali based on the same "evidence".

Admittedly the link does not look good, which is why I am interested in the outcome of the court case (even withstanding a doper has scucessfully sued in the past).

 

[rhubroma]

It does not make me happy to say anyone dopes without evidence though, is the valid evidence against Nibali? I have not seen any.

This is why I would like to know what the outcome of his suing Ivan Fanini was, what happened to that court case?

Look we’ve heard a litany of "but where is all the evidence" before for ten years from the Armstrong brigade...and we know where that ended up. Now suddenly you have a guy who was a nobody at Barloworld posting LA's times at the Tour and crushing the competition. You want evidence? How about his damn time on the Ventoux, or the utter way he made known dopers look ridiculous. Must be some damn good water they put in Sky's bottles. Wish I could get some.

Haven't you learned by now in contemporary cycling that if it looks unbelievable, well, it is? Yet you continue to ask "but where is the evidence?" I never permit myself, however, to be surprised at the aberrations of fools.

 

[del1962]

Look we’ve heard a litany of "but where is all the evidence" before for ten years from the Armstrong brigade...and we know where that ended up. Now suddenly you have a guy who was a nobody at Barloworld posting LA's times at the Tour and crushing the competition. You want evidence? How about his damn time on the Ventoux, or the utter way he made known dopers look ridiculous. Must be some damn good water they put in Sky's bottles. Wish I could get some.

Haven't you learned by now in contemporary cycling that if it looks unbelievable, well, it is? Yet you continue to ask "but where is the evidence?" I never permit myself, however, to be surprised at the aberrations of fools.

I am not going to discuss what has been done to death on more appropiate threads.

 

[thehog]

Look we’ve heard a litany of "but where is all the evidence" before for ten years from the Armstrong brigade...and we know where that ended up. Now suddenly you have a guy who was a nobody at Barloworld posting LA's times at the Tour and crushing the competition. You want evidence? How about his damn time on the Ventoux, or the utter way he made known dopers look ridiculous. Must be some damn good water they put in Sky's bottles. Wish I could get some.

Haven't you learned by now in contemporary cycling that if it looks unbelievable, well, it is? Yet you continue to ask "but where is the evidence?" I never permit myself, however, to be surprised at the aberrations of fools.

This I agree with.

People ask - where's the evidence?

Well isn't it obvious.

It's before your own eyes!

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Admittedly the link does not look good, which is why I am interested in the outcome of the court case (even withstanding a doper has scucessfully sued in the past).

Maybe you should ring the Gazetto dello Sport and find out. When you do, please inform us what the outcome was.

 

[del1962]

Maybe you should ring the Gazetto dello Sport and find out. When you do, please inform us what the outcome was.

I don't speak Italian and I have actually tried to find out through google without any success.

 

[rhubroma]

I don't speak Italian and I have actually tried to find out through google without any success.

Now here I can be of some help, though unfortunately not in regards to your present inquiry, since la Gazzetta dello Sport reports on the suicide threat of Santambrogio, though I see nothing on Fanini's case.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

I don't speak Italian and I have actually tried to find out through google without any success.

Fair enough.

http://www.podiumcafe.com/2008/10/6/629482/more-doping-news-from-ital

Always a good read that man.