Vino bought the 2010 LBL?

[Luigi_Max]

So now what... Philippe Gilbert won the 2010 LBL?

Or there is no winner. Vino and Kolobnev, for all the problems that occurred between them at the finish, were clearly the best two riders in the race.

 

[hfer07]

So now what... Philippe Gilbert won the 2010 LBL?

nah, that was legit as far as pure racing stands- there was not even a molecular size chance for the Schleck sisters to outsprint Gilbert there in this lifetime.....

as far as the OP question?

YES HE DID

 

[glassmoon]

vinokourov is poison.
I don't understand why people like him and riis are allowed to still be involved in pro-cycling. It's rewarding proven cheaters and liars. Disgusting.

+1

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[GJB123]

good luck proving that in a serious court with serious judges.
you have to go from the first bike race to the last one, those prosecutors know nothing about this sport. but vino really fucced it up with his easy password anyway

They're Belgians, so I think they inherently will have knowledge of the sport.

 

[MatParker117]

Vino/kolobnev charged with corruption minimum six months in prison.

 

[Pentacycle]

They're Belgians, so I think they inherently will have knowledge of the sport.

I think you're talking about the Flemish, but it's a French-speaking court handling the case. They don't have the same cycling culture.

 

[Tonton]

I think you're talking about the Flemish, but it's a French-speaking court handling the case. They don't have the same cycling culture.

Biased opinion, s*cker punch. Wallons have just as much cycling culture as the Flemish.

 

[Tonton]

To the topic: the money trail is the evidence, it is pretty well established, but I don't see any jail time, at best a fine coming out of it. I don't know if anything in Belgian law is equivalent to the Vegas-type 'cheating the casino' laws (protection of betting 'integrity').

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

lol @ all this bull**** at best it prooves that vino paid the loser kolobnev which is normal to do. the number 1 pays the number 2 in a duo break.

also if you think a rider sells a win in lbl for 150.000 euros

 

[gooner]

I was watching Orla Chennaoui on Sky talking about this. They could get between 6 months-3 years, plus a fine between 600 euros-300,000 euros.

http://www1.skysports.com/cycling/news/15264/9432996

 

[jens_attacks]

They're Belgians, so I think they inherently will have knowledge of the sport.

well then they should know that this is part of this sport since the beginning and till the end of time. it's called a gentlemen's agreement
if vino wouldn't have paid the money to kolobnev then i agree, this is fraud, scam and big crime. but it wasn't the case here.

 

[MatParker117]

well then they should know that this is part of this sport since the beginning and till the end of time. it's called a gentlemen's agreement
if vino wouldn't have paid the money to kolobnev then i agree, this is fraud, scam and big crime. but it wasn't the case here.

It's also called race fixing and should lead to bans and fraud charges if proven.

 

[retzko]

Wallons have just as much cycling culture as the Flemish.

That ain't true .... not even close.... Recently with Gilbert its got a boost. I the walloon area people riding their bike for pleasure is rather rare and even rarer to go to the market or home /work. they got a lot less viewers( even relative) then cycling got in flanders on TV.

They have tradition .... but not 1/2 of flanders in terms of intensity or broad popularity. With Gilbert cycling is the second sport but before tennis with henin was more popular and autosport is also very popular but they dont have no real hero s anymore in that sport.

 

[Netserk]

It's also called race fixing and should lead to bans and fraud charges if proven.

How exactly is that fixing a race??????

 

[burning]

I think Vino should sue these guys for being so ignorant

 

[laurel1969]

How to square this sort of alleged race-fixing with post-Tour criteriums where Tour winner gets to win every time?. Bit of a grey area

 

[Dazed and Confused]

How to square this sort of alleged race-fixing with post-Tour criteriums where Tour winner gets to win every time?. Bit of a grey area

Post tour crits are non regulated, private events. They can do what the want.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Just saw this story on Sky Sports News complete with footage of Jurgen Van Den Broeck winning a stage of the Dauphine

 

[The Hitch]

I was watching Orla Chennaoui on Sky talking about this.

You just lost credibility

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

It's also called race fixing and should lead to bans and fraud charges if proven.

it's not race fixing. both riders ride to win and the winner pays the loser. happens ALL THE TIME

 

[DirtyWorks]

Wow, that is interesting. If convicted i suppose they will face a ban from the uci and a sh!tload of lawsuits from the bookies.

What can the Federation do to a retired rider?

The article strongly suggests Khazakh government put up the money. They back the cycling federation. Not surprising in the least. Sounds like a gift from the cycling federation to his demigod Kazakh.

Even though the payment is old news, it's interesting that the judicial case could not be shut down. It's the right thing to do, but I just thought since it's a sporting matter it would be left alone.

I don't see how the bookies have a case. One Khazakh, one Russian fix a match in another country with a rules-making body from yet another country. Everyone involved can ignore the judicial action.

 

[gooner]

You just lost credibility

Take back what you're wrongfully implying fast or your nitpicking post will be reported. You're bang out of order.

It was her who contacted the Liege prosecutor about this to get the details. It was the reason why I referenced her to it. It was good work on her part.

 

[roundabout]

it's not race fixing. both riders ride to win and the winner pays the loser. happens ALL THE TIME

How about reading the emails first?

 

[MatParker117]

What can the Federation do to a retired rider?

The article strongly suggests Khazakh government put up the money. They back the cycling federation. Not surprising in the least. Sounds like a gift from the cycling federation to his demigod Kazakh.

Even though the payment is old news, it's interesting that the judicial case could not be shut down. It's the right thing to do, but I just thought since it's a sporting matter it would be left alone.

I don't see how the bookies have a case. One Khazakh, one Russian fix a match in another country with a rules-making body from yet another country. Everyone involved can ignore the judicial action.

It affects the market for their customers. Also the belgian authorities could issue european arrest warrant's for both men, which would require EU police to arrest and extradite them for trial.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

As if they would manage to imprison Vino