Vino Comeback Thread

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apparently as of the writing, the issue of vino becoming the general manager of astana is not finalized yet. in the interview dated 1 october vino said he wants it.

otoh, in the interview to the same source, kash on 4th october said that vino is not ready for the job and that anyway he doubts mc fat will approve it.

apparently, the 2 are still not on friendly terms.

of course both spoke about the armstrong situation too. i will refrain from further comments, but it was nothing unexpected.

source: sports.kz
 
Farewell to the king :D
I've only started following cycling in 2009 so I just know Vino 2.0 and the stories from the past. One of my favourites right there. His willingness, perseverance, tactical sense mixed with tactical insanity is just too good not to like.

Who's the guy of the current peloton that can fill in that boots, even on a slightly less epic level? Who will attack just because he feels like it? Some options:
- Hoogerland: he doesn't have tactical sense and he's way off the epic level (in terms of wins at least). Perhaps if we give him a brain his legs can do something of that magnitude.
- Cancellara: when is he riding a GT without having to baby sit fragile climbers and all around pseudo-GC riders? Go on mountain breaks (Hushovd 2011 style), derail sprinters train and maybe Fabian can be a decent pick.
- Velasco: not really obvious but when I think of Tropea, Giau, Gap, Alpe (2011), Kappelmuur, Fuente De (2012)..... He certainly has the attacking style even if the terrain doesn't suit him. Well, he's just too nice. Stab someone in the back and you'll have a chance Velasco :D
- Txurruka: he attacks but doesn't win. Now he doesn't even have a team. He's a bit like an overhyped indie band that is cool to like.
- Madrazo: keep yourself without crashing for a season and then we'll see.
- Morkov: probably something like 20 breaks this season but only the attacking style won't cut it.
- Bakelandts: win something, top 10 a GT (he's not far now), attack on monuments and maybe...?
- De Gendt: really obvious pick! The guy clearly has balls (I mean solo on the Stelvio, attacking on the Mortirolo?!) can top10 GT's. What are his chances off nailing a classic?
- Nieve: epic is his definition, I mean has he ever done well on a stage with less than 4000m of climbing? The classics part and racing outside GT's is still to be proved but well....

Any inputs? I'm having a hard time letting go.... :p
 
Aug 16, 2011
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trevim said:
Farewell to the king :D
I've only started following cycling in 2009 so I just know Vino 2.0 and the stories from the past. One of my favourites right there. His willingness, perseverance, tactical sense mixed with tactical insanity is just too good not to like.

Who's the guy of the current peloton that can fill in that boots, even on a slightly less epic level? Who will attack just because he feels like it? Some options:
- Hoogerland: he doesn't have tactical sense and he's way off the epic level (in terms of wins at least). Perhaps if we give him a brain his legs can do something of that magnitude.
- Cancellara: when is he riding a GT without having to baby sit fragile climbers and all around pseudo-GC riders? Go on mountain breaks (Hushovd 2011 style), derail sprinters train and maybe Fabian can be a decent pick.
- Velasco: not really obvious but when I think of Tropea, Giau, Gap, Alpe (2011), Kappelmuur, Fuente De (2012)..... He certainly has the attacking style even if the terrain doesn't suit him. Well, he's just too nice. Stab someone in the back and you'll have a chance Velasco :D
- Txurruka: he attacks but doesn't win. Now he doesn't even have a team. He's a bit like an overhyped indie band that is cool to like.
- Madrazo: keep yourself without crashing for a season and then we'll see.
- Morkov: probably something like 20 breaks this season but only the attacking style won't cut it.
- Bakelandts: win something, top 10 a GT (he's not far now), attack on monuments and maybe...?
- De Gendt: really obvious pick! The guy clearly has balls (I mean solo on the Stelvio, attacking on the Mortirolo?!) can top10 GT's. What are his chances off nailing a classic?
- Nieve: epic is his definition, I mean has he ever done well on a stage with less than 4000m of climbing? The classics part and racing outside GT's is still to be proved but well....

Any inputs?

With the help of Vino, Nibali will become the italian Vino :cool:.
I would add a in-form Gilbert to the list as well.
 
Afrank said:
With the help of Vino, Nibali will become the italian Vino :cool:.
I would add a in-form Gilbert to the list as well.
Oh yeah Nibali is a really great pick, another insane yet GC rider. I forgot about him... Gilbert I didn't forget but he doesn't really strike me as a longe range attacker. But yes, he's pretty spectacular and has a great tactical sense. Maybe :p
 
trevim said:
<<snip>>
Any inputs? I'm having a hard time letting go.... :p
there is no other. vino is king. :D

(eta smiley, lest some who don't know me take me too seriously... vino is unique. thankfully, hopefully, he'll be able to pass on some of his spirit and his smarts to younger riders on his team... but, still, they won't be vino.)
 
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The Hitch said:
Gilbert is certainly out of his league in that photo.

Gilbert is the epitome of a person who has completely changed character through the temptations of money and success. Compare the person he was until 2008 when being with Madiot, to the person he has become since 2009.

However, he remains a thousand times more likeable than Vino...
 
Zam_Olyas said:
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That golden Specialized is FREAKIN AWESOME :eek: I'm so droolin' over it!!!

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We'll miss you Vino :(
 
trevim said:
Farewell to the king :D
I've only started following cycling in 2009 so I just know Vino 2.0 and the stories from the past. One of my favourites right there. His willingness, perseverance, tactical sense mixed with tactical insanity is just too good not to like.

Who's the guy of the current peloton that can fill in that boots, even on a slightly less epic level? Who will attack just because he feels like it? Some options:
- Hoogerland: he doesn't have tactical sense and he's way off the epic level (in terms of wins at least). Perhaps if we give him a brain his legs can do something of that magnitude.
- Cancellara: when is he riding a GT without having to baby sit fragile climbers and all around pseudo-GC riders? Go on mountain breaks (Hushovd 2011 style), derail sprinters train and maybe Fabian can be a decent pick.
- Velasco: not really obvious but when I think of Tropea, Giau, Gap, Alpe (2011), Kappelmuur, Fuente De (2012)..... He certainly has the attacking style even if the terrain doesn't suit him. Well, he's just too nice. Stab someone in the back and you'll have a chance Velasco :D
- Txurruka: he attacks but doesn't win. Now he doesn't even have a team. He's a bit like an overhyped indie band that is cool to like.
- Madrazo: keep yourself without crashing for a season and then we'll see.
- Morkov: probably something like 20 breaks this season but only the attacking style won't cut it.
- Bakelandts: win something, top 10 a GT (he's not far now), attack on monuments and maybe...?
- De Gendt: really obvious pick! The guy clearly has balls (I mean solo on the Stelvio, attacking on the Mortirolo?!) can top10 GT's. What are his chances off nailing a classic?
- Nieve: epic is his definition, I mean has he ever done well on a stage with less than 4000m of climbing? The classics part and racing outside GT's is still to be proved but well....

Any inputs? I'm having a hard time letting go.... :p

Velasco lost his place in the Euskaltel team sadly :(
 
Uhhh guys, don't you doubt Vino's swimming ability.
I remember Ullrich teling a story about a hunting holiday with Vino in Kazachstan.
It was late fall, very cold, and Ulle said that Vino used to take baths in a cold as hell mountain river ;)

Vino is tough enough for Ironman, how can you have doubts:D
 
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cineteq said:
Ironman is too hard, something like SuperFrog triathlon would be more suitable.

He'll start his own ultratriathlon:

- swim across the Caspian Sea
- cycle to Astana
- run to Russian border

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