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This conversation is surreal :D.
Now, in 2016, people debate whether Thomas was slightly disappointing because he is 3 seconds back a multiple TT World Champion.
What happened !? This Thomas guy was no more than a domestique a few years ago (nobody knew him before 2012).[/quote]

u mad bro? but hey nice avatar you've got there :D[/quote]

I am bit frustrated, yeah :eek:
Pinot's and Bardet's good form are the only nice things I will remember from this week.[/quote]

hardly out of no where multiple Olympic and world championships on the track top 10 finishes in Spring Classics - steady improvement since moving to the road full time.
 
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Lol wtf is this discussion? Thomas is a monster talent as everyone knows. Why is this a discussion now?
 
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DBotero said:
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Luis Leon Sanchez is now at the hospital and he is ok, a part from the cut on his chin. Waiting for the examinations.
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He does have lots of chin to get cut on.
 
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TommyGun said:
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I expected a little bit better from Thomas. Maybe 10 seconds faster but he did crash yesterday which can take a little bit of the edge off your ride even if there's no significant damage.

Still, being 3 seconds behind Martin isn't the end of the world considering he's missing Lopez and Kwiatkowski. Izagirre will still be a big threat on Malhao.
What a loss it must be for him . . . :confused:
Thomas is not an outstanding time trialist. He lost the Tour de Suisse overall win in a time trial against Spilak. There's no shame in losing only ~30 seconds to the two best time trialists of the last 10 years. It was most definitely not below par, what the track specialist showed today.

Yes, he will miss Lopez and Kwiatkowski on the Malhao stage but not so much now that Etixx have to defend the lead. I thought that was pretty obvious. Like I said, it was a decent TT from Thomas but no more than that.

This conversation is surreal :D.
Now, in 2016, people debate whether Thomas was slightly disappointing because he is 3 seconds back a multiple TT World Champion.
What happened !? This Thomas guy was no more than a domestique a few years ago (nobody knew him before 2012).

Well, nobody knew Froome before August 2011.

Well, nobody who didnt follow cycling. I followed cycling and I followed him since 2008... before that he wanst really known..although he did already important things and he was well known from some expert, as the next article show. (but the same that Roglic). But after 2008 Froome is well know..although nobidy expect so big things from him after 2009 and 2010 quite dissapointing), but after 2008, yes.
Taking from the article: Un unpolihed diamond, the story of Chris Froome:

There are many Links on this Tour :

Soler leaves the Tour:

http://archivo.marca.com/edicion/marca/ciclismo/tour/2008/es/desarrollo/1144070.html

Tour de Force for Impey, Hunter and Froome

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/jul/28/cycling.tourdefrance

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/riders/2008/interviews/?id=chris_froome_nov08


In that article there are many interesting things:

"I saw him last year in some races and I could tell I was a good racer , "said Barloworld team manager Claudio Corti to Cyclingnews on the 23-year-old. After testing him out in Such prestigious one-day races as the Criterium International, Gent-Wevelgem, Amstel Gold, Flèche Wallonne and Liège-Bastogne-Liège, Corti Decided to let Froome be the first Kenyan rider to line up in the Grande Boucle.

"I Was Told at the Beginning of the Year That riding the Tour was possible - it was not one-hundred percent," commented Froome. "I went well in the beginning of the season and I Showed potential. really I only knew a couple of weeks before , there were a few of us up for the two spots. "

Corti did not regret his choice. "This year, I had his ups and downs, but I was good When I was flying. I remember the moment I was there at the basis of the [Tour's] Alpe d'Huez With The favorites - I did a great ride," I said.

The Italian Also remarked on Froome's maturity. " He is a serious rider and I have clear ideas. I can tell I wants to stay and live here in Italy - I rented a home, registered with the government and has a girlfriend. "

The team manager looks forward to seeing his young talent develop. " He is strong in the time trial and on the climbs, in theory he is suited for stage races. He still has to Improve, he is young. " Froome Agreed with His team manager's assessment: "The two strengths That I have are time trialling and climbing, and I prefer longer events - Grand Tours make sense. I obviously have a lot of work to do on my time trialling and climbing to Reach That point. "

Many people say that nobody said that this rider could then aspire to serious goals. The director at least not ruled out and talked about his strengths and times when he was flying
Froome and Corti Explained to Cyclingnews in an exclusive interview how the 2008 season went and What They expect in the years beyond.

Froome takes cycling's big step .

In this last interview, which you can click and read, Froome says interesting things, he prefer long and diesel climb, not explosive ones.
"One moment, During The Alpe d'Huez stage , Corti called me back to the car to get more gels. I said, 'No, no. I am fine.' I just had one gel in my pocket. About four kilometers into Alpe d'Huez I completely blew and lost a hell of a lot of time. That hit home how important energy is, That Showed me a lesson. I said, 'Why did you not come back? About You needed 10 gels, not one! '"

"I love the climbs in the Tour. The mountain passes are not like the Italian passes, Which are extremely steep, where I start to struggle. "

Whoever believes that Peña Cabarga is his kind climb because he was there the main character is wrong , but if you are the strongest you can show that in all the field games.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-taking-great-strides

"I was just getting right into it and then I Realised That I was near the finish," said Froome. " Hopefully the time trial at the end of the race will suit me better Because It's a bit longer. "

And he was right, because in the final ITT was better, and in this interview he explains that he did not very well in the first.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/346585/froome-i-could-have-done-better-in-time-trial.html

But in this odd environement Froome shows thing to take into account as already mentioned by Corti in the queen stage. Froome was with the best in Croix de Fer, and endure with them about Alp d'Huez in the first Km, and was the rejecting of the gels due to inexperience which played a dirty trick on him. Even so he did 31 th.

Schumacher was caught 4.7 km from the top of the Iron Cross climb.
The yellow jersey's group thinned down to 18 riders before the top Including: Evans, Aerts, Tailor, Arvesen, Schleck, Schleck, Valverde, Arroyo, Siutsou, Froome , Fofonov, Efimkin, Goubert, Valjavec, Kohl, Menchov, Weening, Casar, Moncoutie and Vande Velde. At the top, led by Velits 1'10 ". Soon after the summit, Pineau and caught the yellow jersey's Attacked peloton caught the stage leader and 30km from the finish. The peloton was at 1'50 ".
 
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Not again...

SeriousSam said:
Being good at prediction is difficult. Retrodiction, by contrast, takes no skill whatsoever and any charlatan can do it. Just make up some narrative about knowing about a rider's potential after having seen him ride in sandshoes or something and you're good to go.
 
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You're preaching to the choir here, I realize I'm new on the forum(entitled to an opinion I hope) but to say that froome was something new in 2011 is just silly.

My favorite rider should be obvious, but I love Alberto almost more. Froome is prob third in GC-riders for me and the hate for him sometime seems too stupid to bear actually (I love his style, he looks crazy hehe!). Seems to me that Alberto is happy to be fighting with Froome for the big GC name for today, if it wasn't for Froome/Nibbels/Quinatana oh my god it would have been god-awful to follow cycling for big GC these days as some types of riders have quit or have conveniant injuries.

I mean, there would not be any questions anymore! (what would you all do with your time!)

Edit:I was talking to the poster above the above ;)
 
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I don't see what Dawg has to do on this thread, he' not racing la Volta. And Taxus brandishing the gospel of St. Chritopher: come on...
 
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rhubroma said:
Hugo Koblet said:
Lol wtf is this discussion? Thomas is a monster talent as everyone knows. Why is this a discussion now?

Another track talent-cum mountain goat. Magic Sky.

The Yates twins are the same. Magic CC Étupes and Orica?
 
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Tonton said:
I don't see what Dawg has to do on this thread, he' not racing la Volta. And Taxus brandishing the gospel of St. Chritopher: come on...
Taxus at it again oh dear oh dear :eek:
 
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A big scare but only six stitches on his chin for our @LLEONSANCHEZ Ánimo Campeon!

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rhubroma said:
TMP402 said:
rhubroma said:
Hugo Koblet said:
Lol wtf is this discussion? Thomas is a monster talent as everyone knows. Why is this a discussion now?

Another track talent-cum mountain goat. Magic Sky.

The Yates twins are the same. Magic CC Étupes and Orica?

No magic British cycling.

But the Yates twins (Adam in particular) were never really involved in British cycling...

(Also, it's a bit silly to call Thomas a 'mountain goat'. He's a power climber, like Froome or Porte, not a pure grimpeur like Pantani. The fact that he's doing so well at such a high level is magical, but when you consider his traits his versatility isn't that surprising.)
 
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Cannibal72 said:
rhubroma said:
TMP402 said:
rhubroma said:
Hugo Koblet said:
Lol wtf is this discussion? Thomas is a monster talent as everyone knows. Why is this a discussion now?

Another track talent-cum mountain goat. Magic Sky.

The Yates twins are the same. Magic CC Étupes and Orica?

No magic British cycling.

But the Yates twins (Adam in particular) were never really involved in British cycling...

(Also, it's a bit silly to call Thomas a 'mountain goat'. He's a power climber, like Froome or Porte, not a pure grimpeur like Pantani. The fact that he's doing so well at such a high level is magical, but when you consider his traits his versatility isn't that surprising.)

In modern cycling those old categories are relatively obsolete. Even Panzer can climb. It's who gets to the top first...and now even trackies have arrived! :eek:
 
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Tonton said:
I don't see what Dawg has to do on this thread, he' not racing la Volta. And Taxus brandishing the gospel of St. Chritopher: come on...

Indeed he isn't even in this race and Taxus quote " But after 2008 Froome is well know..although nobidy expect so big things from him after 2009 and 2010 quite dissapointing), but after 2008, yes."

Yes we all saw he was a mediocre at best that is what he was known for. That and getting tossed for hanging onto a motorcycle to get over a mountain. What a hoot!
 
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Cannibal72 said:
rhubroma said:
TMP402 said:
rhubroma said:
Hugo Koblet said:
Lol wtf is this discussion? Thomas is a monster talent as everyone knows. Why is this a discussion now?

Another track talent-cum mountain goat. Magic Sky.

The Yates twins are the same. Magic CC Étupes and Orica?

No magic British cycling.

But the Yates twins (Adam in particular) were never really involved in British cycling...

(Also, it's a bit silly to call Thomas a 'mountain goat'. He's a power climber, like Froome or Porte, not a pure grimpeur like Pantani. The fact that he's doing so well at such a high level is magical, but when you consider his traits his versatility isn't that surprising.)

I thought one of them was - Simon I think. Adam didn't quite make the grade, as I recall.
 
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Interesting Aru's comment that riders climbing mountains more quickly than last year - Riders had a big crack at the Giro and never loafed up mountains.
 
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Cannibal72 said:
rhubroma said:
TMP402 said:
rhubroma said:
Hugo Koblet said:
Lol wtf is this discussion? Thomas is a monster talent as everyone knows. Why is this a discussion now?

Another track talent-cum mountain goat. Magic Sky.

The Yates twins are the same. Magic CC Étupes and Orica?

No magic British cycling.

But the Yates twins (Adam in particular) were never really involved in British cycling...

(Also, it's a bit silly to call Thomas a 'mountain goat'. He's a power climber, like Froome or Porte, not a pure grimpeur like Pantani. The fact that he's doing so well at such a high level is magical, but when you consider his traits his versatility isn't that surprising.)

Simon was selected for the Olympic programme at the age of 18 after showing promise on the track even earlier. At the 2010 Junior Track World Championships he won the madison (with Daniel McLay) and came 2nd in the team pursuit (alongside Owain Doull, Sam Harrison and Daniel McLay). Then in 2013, the year before turning pro, he became a world champion in the points race. Adam was not selected for the Olympic programme, but was also on the track for some time, podiuming National Championships in team pursuit, omnium and scratch race. I'd say that's reasonably involved. And I'd further add the Yates' strike me as more pure climbers than Thomas, and Thomas' career has taken longer to develop than them; he won the junior Paris–Roubaix 12 years ago.
 
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Nice start to his Etixx capaign. Five wins already for Kittel and it is only February :D
 

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