Vuelta 2015 rumours

[Libertine Seguros]

More likely something in Andorra.



Guillén has visited Trobaniellu. He was elusive about it but it seems that he didn't like the lack of space at the summit.

Regarding Galicia, they've been there for 3 years in a row, so maybe they give it a rest. It's about the same time we've been without Tudons-Torremanzanas-Carrasqueta-Xorret de Catí

4 years in a row. We had La Manzaneda and the Ancares intermediate stage in 2011, Ancares and the TT in 2012, the depart last year, and now the finish this year.

Basically, Galicia has fronted the money for about a quarter of the race ever since they stopped fronting the money for a team. And we still haven't seen something like A Barranca or Cruz de Barreiros, which you'd think would really suit Unipublic.

Of new potential summits in Asturias I'd vastly prefer El Jito d'Escarandi or Puerto de la Cubilla. Trobaniellu shouldn't be an MTF, it should be a lead-in to San Lorenzo with a finish at Pola de Somiedo or maybe a cat.2 finish at Valle del Lago. On the other side of the province there's always the Parque Eólico at the Alto de Bustantigo, and maybe Santuário del Acebo which used to host the Vuelta a Asturias every year... and by some of its steeper ascents could be a real fantasy for Guillén.

 

[Stromeon]

4 years in a row. We had La Manzaneda and the Ancares intermediate stage in 2011, Ancares and the TT in 2012, the depart last year, and now the finish this year.

Basically, Galicia has fronted the money for about a quarter of the race ever since they stopped fronting the money for a team. And we still haven't seen something like A Barranca or Cruz de Barreiros, which you'd think would really suit Unipublic.

Of new potential summits in Asturias I'd vastly prefer El Jito d'Escarandi or Puerto de la Cubilla. Trobaniellu shouldn't be an MTF, it should be a lead-in to San Lorenzo with a finish at Pola de Somiedo or maybe a cat.2 finish at Valle del Lago. On the other side of the province there's always the Parque Eólico at the Alto de Bustantigo, and maybe Santuário del Acebo which used to host the Vuelta a Asturias every year... and by some of its steeper ascents could be a real fantasy for Guillén.

Awesome climb that... Probably too little space at the top for all the finish stuff but I can live in hope

 

[Zam_Olyas]

I would like to see a finish at Gamoniteiro.

 

[Red Rick]

I would like to see a finish at Gamoniteiro.

Anyone would

 

[icefire]

Posters in Spanish forums are commenting about Cobertoria East followed by this (with no flat between climbs):

There are pictures of the climb in the blog of the guy who proposed stage 16 of this year's Vuelta to Unipublic:

http://39x28altimetrias.com/ermitadelalba.html

 

[Descender]

Posters in Spanish forums are commenting about Cobertoria East followed by this (with no flat between climbs):

There are pictures of the climb in the blog of the guy who proposed stage 16 of this year's Vuelta to Unipublic:

http://39x28altimetrias.com/ermitadelalba.html

Too good to be true. A while ago I drew this stage with precisely that finish:

 

[Red Rick]

Posters in Spanish forums are commenting about Cobertoria East followed by this (with no flat between climbs):

There are pictures of the climb in the blog of the guy who proposed stage 16 of this year's Vuelta to Unipublic:

http://39x28altimetrias.com/ermitadelalba.html

I can imagine unipublic using that one, it has all the 26% gradients they want, they'll probably, don't go with San Lorenzo and Cobertoria twice before that though

 

[Asturiano]

Last 40 km of race with this (no gaps betweem them):

 

[Asturiano]

They can even climb to Via Para from Santa Eulalia before (first 10 kms of the altimetry):

So 2 climbs of 2nd Category and other 2 of HC in the last 5o kms with no gaps between them.

 

[BigMac]

-moved-

10char

 

[Red Rick]

The can even climb to Via Para from Santa Eulalia before (first 10 kms of the altimetry):

So 2 climbs of 2nd Category and other 2 of HC in the last 5o kms with no gaps between them.

Yeah, why climb the Angliru fully when you can finish on a stepper climb

 

[roundabout]

i want luz ardiden and mythical cerler. also navacerrada MTT or arcalis

After Formugal last year and Valdelinares this year, Cerler may even be quite likely

 

[Libertine Seguros]

After Formugal last year and Valdelinares this year, Cerler may even be quite likely

There were rumours of Cerler-Ampriu and Baños de Panticosa for MTFs this year in Aragón before Valdelinares got the nod.

 

[icefire]

More rumours:

Andorra is paving Coll de la Gallina. The full article requires subscription, but the headline is enough to get it.

http://www.diariandorra.ad/index.php?option=com_k2&id=35261&view=item&Itemid=276

This opens new possibilities for having a full stage within the borders of Andorra. I can see Guillén doing the full loop around the summit like Alpe d'Huez 2013 but much shorther. If they lay out something including the Envalira loop, Ordino and/or Comella, Gallina and Canolich or La Rabassa it could be a decent mountain stage.

 

[icefire]

From yesterdays news, the headline says that Álava wants a stage for 2015:

http://www.elcorreo.com/alava/depor...alava-quiere-etapa-vuelta-20140909180938.html

To me it looks this is more a wish from Unipublic rather than Basque authorities. They'd like to go to Bilbao as well.

 

[Ferminal]

More rumours:

Andorra is paving Coll de la Gallina. The full article requires subscription, but the headline is enough to get it.

http://www.diariandorra.ad/index.php?option=com_k2&id=35261&view=item&Itemid=276

This opens new possibilities for having a full stage within the borders of Andorra. I can see Guillén doing the full loop around the summit like Alpe d'Huez 2013 but much shorther. If they lay out something including the Envalira loop, Ordino and/or Comella, Gallina and Canolich or La Rabassa it could be a decent mountain stage.

Eh that is a very solid development, for the Tour too potentially. Could allow for a cracking stage and descent finish in town (if that is where the money is).

 

[icefire]

Eh that is a very solid development, for the Tour too potentially. Could allow for a cracking stage and descent finish in town (if that is where the money is).

More news on the road works in Coll de la Gallina:

http://www.andorradifusio.ad/noticies/comenca-darrera-fase-convertir-coll-de-galllina-en-etapa-reina

Note that it's shown in the sports section and the obvious driver of the road works is hosting a big mountain stage, first in the Vuelta, and then hoping for the return of the Tour.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Now for Spain to pull their fingers out on paving their side of the Port de Cabús...Cabús+Gallina+Rabassa+MTF of your choice (I vote Arinsal or Els Cortals) for a REAL Andorra mountain stage. Or the Andorrans could continue their work by paving Beixalis' east face.

While the Spaniards are at it, could they please finish the works on Sahún, so that we can have the Sahún-Cerler double act that would have both me AND jensattacks happy?

 

[icefire]

Now for Spain to pull their fingers out on paving their side of the Port de Cabús...Cabús+Gallina+Rabassa+MTF of your choice (I vote Arinsal or Els Cortals) for a REAL Andorra mountain stage. Or the Andorrans could continue their work by paving Beixalis' east face.

While the Spaniards are at it, could they please finish the works on Sahún, so that we can have the Sahún-Cerler double act that would have both me AND jensattacks happy?

¿Cabús? For the time being, you may enjoy pictures of it here:

http://www.lugares-abandonados.com/rep019.htm

You may also read there (in Spanish) about the history of the village of Tor and why that climb is unkely to be paved.

The Sindic General Andorrà has some interesting ideas about mountain tracks that might be paved: La Rabassa to Camp de Claror, Arinsal to Port Negre and the wildest of all, closing a loop with Encamp-Cortals-Cubil-Grau Roig.

For the time being we'll just have La Gallina. And we know that in 2012 Christian Prudhomme was seen walking from Canolich to the summit after the Vuelta stage.

 

[icefire]

We already knew that the town of Vitoria is willing to host a stage. Today the speaker of the Regional Government was asked on the subject and he answered that the Basque Governement looks favorably upon the return of the Vuelta to Basque roads.

http://www.elcorreo.com/bizkaia/dep...ierno-vasco-saluda-vuelta-20140923145356.html

In addition to that, some members of the municipality of Getxo will ask the Major to propose Unipublic hosting another stage.

 

[icefire]

After ASO made public the route of the Vuelta a Francia, we're just left with the question of whether Unipublic will go full genius with the Vuelta a España being more Vuelta than ever. After all, 2015 it's the 80th anniversary of the race and its 70th edition.

Guillén in an interview:

Perhaps we can announce that all MTFs next year will be unprecedented.

http://cincodias.com/cincodias/2014/10/22/empresas/1413999692_441655.html

That means no Bola del Mundo, no Angliru, no Covadonga or no Ancares, but doesn't rule out the top of La Gallina. With all the information they've collected from fans in recent years they won't have scarcity of MTFs to disguise their model as full of novelties.

On another link, many towns are willing to host the stages around Malaga (4 departures and 3 finishes). Marbella seems the favorite to host the first stage. So far it's only known for sure that Alhaurín de la Torre will host the 2nd stage departure on Sunday. There's a possibility to have a stage finish on Castillo de Gibralfaro (where Gilbert won and took the leader's jersey in 2010) or somewhere in the mountains northeast of Málaga. Then the race will probably head west to Vejer de la Frontera in the province of Cadiz. Vejer de la Frontera was the small bump in the middle of the 2nd stage this year. That smells to an unprecedented hilltop finish.

http://www.laopiniondemalaga.es/todo-deporte/2014/10/23/locos-vuelta/716708.html

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Whats the record uphill (and mtf) finishes in the Vuelta?

 

[Netserk]

2012 had 10 plus the two stages Gilbert won.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

lol, half the stages or more and now Guillen will go berserk.

 

[May0maniac]

lol, half the stages or more and now Guillen will go berserk.

If he wants to go berserk he should go full Zomegnan and use the Pico del Veleta, but i don't think that we'll see that in the next 10-20 years...