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Libertine Seguros

Libertine Seguros

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It was more or less certain Trobaniello couldn't be a stage finish. I would definitely prefer Pola de Somiedo to a San Lorenzo MTF though. I think San Lorenzo is a tough enough climb when used as an MTF that it would affect how Trobaniello is raced - although Trobaniello could be preceded immediately by Cobertoria East, and leave us with an absolutely epic triple-ESP stage that traceurs have been hoping for for years.

I would add that the climb to the castle in Burgos isn't that much of a climb. You put a 35-40km ITT, you basically have 33-38km of pure power test with a couple of punchy but not overly steep kilometres at the end... I think that would be a good TT actually. The Castillo isn't a super tough climb that will make big differences to the TT times; yes, one time Purito won there. But this year Juanjo Lobato won there. It would still be a TT for the specialists, and only offer the merest of carrots to the non-specialists to try to win back some seconds.

And it may encourage some riders targeting the Vuelta (which there will always be more of come late July than there are at this point, due to riders getting injured during the season, crashing out of the Giro or Tour, etc.) who normally wouldn't to ride the Vuelta a Burgos to check out the roads.
 
Red Rick

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Btw, is it normal for the Vuelta to have such a lack of rumours, announcement compared to the Giro and Tour. So far I don't anything has been confirmed except for the start in Malaga and (unofficially) the tt in the third week
 
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Red Rick said:
Btw, is it normal for the Vuelta to have such a lack of rumours, announcement compared to the Giro and Tour. So far I don't anything has been confirmed except for the start in Malaga and (unofficially) the tt in the third week
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There are few official announcements from Unipublic, but there are some more or less confirmed ones from local news media in the cities and regions hosting stages.
* Departure from Puerto Banús + 6 stages through the provinces of Málaga, Cádiz, Sevilla, Córdoba, Jaén and Granada.
* Stage finishes in Murcia (with Cresta del Gallo), Alicante (uphill finish to be announced) and Castellón before the first rest day.
* Mountain stage in Andorra through La Gallina (MTF to be announced)
* Stage from Vitoria to Fuente del Chivo just before the two still unknown Asturian stages
* ITT in Burgos
* Stage finish in Avila (http://www.eldiadevalladolid.com/no...dina/campo/posible/salida/etapa/vuelta/españa)
* Mountain stage in Madrid
 
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icefire said:
It's now confirmed: the ITT will include the climb to the castle in Burgos:

http://ciclismo.as.com/ciclismo/2014/11/28/vuelta_espana/1417198432_141506.html
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Good, as LS explained, provides a highlight without compromising the specialist nature of the stage.

Thanks for all the updates.

Red Rick said:
Oh boy, here we go

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/vuelta-a-espana-could-have-ten-mountaintop-finishes

:eek:
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"In the third week, there will be an individual time trial of 35 to 40 km, and another Queen Stage in the mountains around Madrid. The final stage returns to the capital city of Madrid, with a women’s race similar to this year’s La Course at the Tour de France. It will wrap up with a nighttime finish for the men."

lol, it's called a "Queen stage" for a reason, you can't have two of them, unless there a two stages of equally high difficulty and thus both worthy of a "Queen" but inseparable, though we know that cannot be the case in La Vuelta.
 
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If Guillén is correct in his statement of no MTFs seen before, I do not really see where a possible Madrid stage that is difficult enough to be considered a queen stage can come. No Navacerrada, Bola or Abantos? Places like Valle de los Caídos and La Jarosa are not hard enough for a "queen stage", while climbing Morcuera from its toughest side would require a less than optimal run-in that wouldn't really merit "queen stage" either. Which suggests either they are going nuts and trying to put a finish somewhere like Navapelegrín, or that the stage won't have an MTF. They did suggest a possibility of a clone of the 2009 La Granja stage for last year's race before the Galician finish rumours picked up steam...
 
roundabout

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Libertine Seguros said:
If Guillén is correct in his statement of no MTFs seen before, I do not really see where a possible Madrid stage that is difficult enough to be considered a queen stage can come. No Navacerrada, Bola or Abantos? Places like Valle de los Caídos and La Jarosa are not hard enough for a "queen stage", while climbing Morcuera from its toughest side would require a less than optimal run-in that wouldn't really merit "queen stage" either. Which suggests either they are going nuts and trying to put a finish somewhere like Navapelegrín, or that the stage won't have an MTF. They did suggest a possibility of a clone of the 2009 La Granja stage for last year's race before the Galician finish rumours picked up steam...
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repave Abantos and La Mina.

Problem solved
 
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roundabout said:
repave Abantos and La Mina.

Problem solved
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That road is zigzagging across the boundaries of two different regions and doesn't connect any residential areas. That's why it is and will remain unpaved.
 
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icefire said:
That road is zigzagging across the boundaries of two different regions and doesn't connect any residential areas. That's why it is and will remain unpaved.
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Unpaved may not stop them, I can't think of too much one can do in three days of Andorra without touching something unpaved and I've also heard rumours of dirty roads being used. It's going to be a crazy route either way.
 
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Red Rick said:
So the biggest mountain stages are probably in the area of Madrid and in Andorra. Don't think an epic Trobaniello stage is gonna happen then
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The thing is there are no many possibilities of a really tough stage in Madrid. La Bola is the only big climb there. So maybe one of the Asturian stages could be a really tough one.

Many people wish a stage with Cobertoria-Trobaniello-San Lorenzo, 3 HC with no flat kms between them and an unpaved climb (Trobaniello)


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Unpaved may not stop them, I can't think of too much one can do in three days of Andorra without touching something unpaved and I've also heard rumours of dirty roads being used. It's going to be a crazy route either way.
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According to latest news they won't be 3 days racing in Andorra. The stage before the first rest day will finish in Castellón. They'll do the Andorra mountain stage the day after the rest day and they'll depart from Andorra to Catalunya/Aragón the day after.

Right now I only see two candidate stages for unpaved roads: the climb to Trobaniello and a flat stage after the second rest day including sections from the Gran Premio Canal de Castilla. And I guess it will be one OR the other, but not both.

Apperently, the two Asturian stages are not yet decided because of a 'minor' disagreement between Guillén and the local/regional autorities. The authorities want a stage finish in a town and Guillén wants to go full MTF.

Another rumour, from the twitter account of the AS journalist: no MTF in the last mountain stage in Madrid, just the known climbs.
https://twitter.com/JAEzquerro/status/539170965234917376
 
Libertine Seguros

Libertine Seguros

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Good. Here's hoping for a 2009 clone stage to La Granja or Destilérias DYC with Navafría, Morcuera and Navacerrada, or León, Navacerrada, Morcuera, Navacerrada. Preferably with Fuente de la Reina on the way down from Navacerrada. Something like this would be ideal, although I doubt we'll see the Abantos part. Presumably to come from Ávila over Guadarrama and then the loop of the second half of that.

If they do, I hope they include El Mediano.
 
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The Vuelta will visit some of the towns connected to the life of Teresa of Ávila to celebrate the 500th aniversary of her birth. The list obviously includes Ávila, but also Medina del Campo, Burgos, Sevilla and Granada.

http://www.stj500.com/la-vuelta-cic...dades-teresianas-con-motivo-del-v-centenario/

A stage from Medina del Campo to Ávila has been rumored in recent weeks, but Sevilla and Granada are listed for the first time. With this we can try to connect the dots for the stages before the first rest day:
Stages 1-3 in Málaga
Stage 4, Málaga to Cádiz
Stage 5, Sevilla
Stage 6, Córdoba
Stage 7, Granada
Stage 8, Murcia (Cresta del Gallo)
Stage 9, a silly murito in Alicante/Valencia
Stage 10, Castellón
 
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