Vuelta 2018 stage 20:Escaldes-Engordany - Coll de La Gallina

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Quintana & Valverde +3:19
 
Re: Vuelta 2018 stage 20:Escaldes-Engordany - Coll de La Gal

Cance > TheRest said:
Gigs_98 said:
Definitely not the cleanest sprint but I really think giving the win to Lopez would be very very harsh.
I'm not convinced Mas was gonna win if he hadn't closed off Lopez, though

I agree, DQ might be harsh but that move did decide the sprint.
 
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DFA123 said:
Jungle Cycle said:
Koronin said:
What the heck was Movistar doing especially yesterday and today. Makes no sense at all.

Movi in 3 weeks is horrible..
I think this is nonsense, they are not horrible at all. Simply that expectations are simply way too high for them these days. They are a middling budget team with very few quality riders. And they are doing way better than most teams with a similar budget.

Regarding 3 week races, they have one potential GT contender (Quintana), who seems to have been badly prepared and off form for over a year now. One guy who can challenge for top 5 if he's on form (Valverde) and one other very good climber (Landa) who has never even won a WT stage race. And nowdays they have a really poor team supporting them, with almost no decent engines.

They punch above their weight in many ways. Plenty of stage wins, week long race wins and one day race wins. And nearly always challenging the podium in GTs.


Well their strategy is still horrible.
 
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DFA123 said:
Jungle Cycle said:
Koronin said:
What the heck was Movistar doing especially yesterday and today. Makes no sense at all.

Movi in 3 weeks is horrible..
I think this is nonsense, they are not horrible at all. Simply that expectations are simply way too high for them these days. They are a middling budget team with very few quality riders. And they are doing way better than most teams with a similar budget.

Regarding 3 week races, they have one potential GT contender (Quintana), who seems to have been badly prepared and off form for over a year now. One guy who can challenge for top 5 if he's on form (Valverde) and one other very good climber (Landa) who has never even won a WT stage race. And nowdays they have a really poor team supporting them, with almost no decent engines.

They punch above their weight in many ways. Plenty of stage wins, week long race wins and one day race wins. And nearly always challenging the podium in GTs.

Get out of here with your logic and let us pretend they're a huge budget team filled with stars
 
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DFA123 said:
Jungle Cycle said:
Koronin said:
What the heck was Movistar doing especially yesterday and today. Makes no sense at all.

Movi in 3 weeks is horrible..
I think this is nonsense, they are not horrible at all. Simply that expectations are simply way too high for them these days. They are a middling budget team with very few quality riders. And they are doing way better than most teams with a similar budget.

Regarding 3 week races, they have one potential GT contender (Quintana), who seems to have been badly prepared and off form for over a year now. One guy who can challenge for top 5 if he's on form (Valverde) and one other very good climber (Landa) who has never even won a WT stage race. And nowdays they have a really poor team supporting them, with almost no decent engines.

They punch above their weight in many ways. Plenty of stage wins, week long race wins and one day race wins. And nearly always challenging the podium in GTs.
This. And none of those guys are good enough these days to win a Vuelta on the back of the Tour. Same with SK. No real surprise that the Tour guys had no sustained form.
 
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movingtarget said:
Cance > TheRest said:
Gigs_98 said:
Definitely not the cleanest sprint but I really think giving the win to Lopez would be very very harsh.
I'm not convinced Mas was gonna win if he hadn't closed off Lopez, though

That was a smart sprint.


Agree. The Mas move was brilliant. Well deserved win.
 
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jaylew said:
DFA123 said:
Jungle Cycle said:
Koronin said:
What the heck was Movistar doing especially yesterday and today. Makes no sense at all.

Movi in 3 weeks is horrible..
I think this is nonsense, they are not horrible at all. Simply that expectations are simply way too high for them these days. They are a middling budget team with very few quality riders. And they are doing way better than most teams with a similar budget.

Regarding 3 week races, they have one potential GT contender (Quintana), who seems to have been badly prepared and off form for over a year now. One guy who can challenge for top 5 if he's on form (Valverde) and one other very good climber (Landa) who has never even won a WT stage race. And nowdays they have a really poor team supporting them, with almost no decent engines.

They punch above their weight in many ways. Plenty of stage wins, week long race wins and one day race wins. And nearly always challenging the podium in GTs.
This. And none of those guys are good enough these days to win a Vuelta on the back of the Tour. Same with SK. No real surprise that the Tour guys had no sustained form.


Here's the bigger thing. Valverde did NOT want to go to the Tour this year to begin with. He was very unhappy about going to the Tour and I think we saw it as his form of protest was to ensure he was not in form at all.
 
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That was a very sketchy Sprint :p
Would have been comical if SY bothered contesting the stage, but at that point the title was secured, so why not let others get the spoils.

What a strange Vuelta has been this one, hasn't it?
 
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jaylew said:
Hugo Koblet said:
By the way that was not an irregular sprint by Mas. He just, wisely, took the shortest line to the the finish line.
Hard to tell from the angle shown live. I'd need to see the overhead.
Yeah, could be that he did take the shortest line. But if he hit the side of the road and closed Lopez off a couple of meters before the turn, then he didn't, and it would be an irregular sprint.