Vuelta a Burgos 2025 (August 5-9)

[postmanhat]

That's going to be a GC win with an asterisk

One of those little hands when your cursor is over a link.

 

[topcat]

And them nights get a little bit brighter and them bars just a little bit better and the sweet just a little bit sweeter but them blues, well it's still the same old song.

 

[Sciatic]

Some bisous for Bisiaux for a gritty performance this week

 

[Tim Cahill]

Keen cycling observers understand the power of Damien Howson in a random 2.pro like once or twice a season.

 

[KZD]

Well done Ciccone, hopefully he gets more lucky in the Vuelta because he is in great shape at the moment.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Stage

GC

 

[postmanhat]

He could move in to the top 5 if he goes for it, and gets some bonus seconds?

Just does it, plus moral victory of the season jersey.

 

[Brullnux]

Good performance by Fortunato in his 100th race day of the season

 

[topcat]

Ciccone now favourite for the Vuelta (a Espana).

 

[Unchained]

Ciccone now favourite for the Vuelta (a Espana).

Guy has been absolutely flying!! Excellent ride for Del Toro and his team mechanic!! Ciccone is really really tough guy!! Doesn't have any pain threshold!!

 

[Unchained]

Good performance by Fortunato in his 100th race day of the season

43 for Ciccone and 57 race days for Del Toro..so the guys beating Fortunato raced half as much!! UAE doing right thing putting Del Toro on the shelf for a while!! Last year he crashed and had a hand injury for gravel worlds!!

 

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43 for Ciccone and 57 race days for Del Toro..so the guys beating Fortunato raced half as much!! UAE doing right thing putting Del Toro on the shelf for a while!! Last year he crashed and had a hand injury for gravel worlds!!

Fortunato did not literally do 100 race days, it just feels like

 

[YavorD]

Makes me wonder what Ciccone could do in the Giro. Impressive showing this season by him throughout for sure.

As strong as he is right now, he has always been very strong in short stage races and Unopuertos.

 

[Brullnux]

Fortunato did not literally do 100 race days, it just feels like

Yeah he's only on 61 but has the Vuelta scheduled and will probably do some of the autumn Italian classics, will be at 85+ by season's end.

 

[Brullnux]

As strong as he is right now, he has always been very strong in short stage races and Unopuertos.

Remember when he outsprinted Roglic and Remco a couple of years ago in Catalunya. This is definitely the best he's ever been, but he has a habit of falling (and falling ill) in GTs where he is going for GC.

 

[Unchained]

Makes me wonder what Ciccone could do in the Giro. Impressive showing this season by him throughout for sure.

Ciccone also does things alone, not afraid to attack and makes things exciting.. Very very positive style!!
And talk about lemons and lemonade, after losing a minute plus as he malingering around after crashing, he has really made outstanding effort to get everything from this race!! Del Toro has not looked as strong as Ciccone in more than half the stages.. I really hope that Trek has their schit together for Vuelta!!
MVP broke my heart when he broke down at TDF!! Giving clown show Lidl Trek a undeserved Christmas gift!! Giulio is golden!!!

 

[Unchained]

Good performance by Fortunato in his 100th race day of the season

He only did..61!!!! Race days!! Can't believe the internet data people!!

 

[Unchained]

Fortunato did not literally do 100 race days, it just feels like

Thanks for that!! I thought Vino was fully baking every rider for precious points!!!
Fortunato has good results this year!! Shame about that thing he belongs to!! Maybe Astana should merge with Lotto or Quickstep!!

 

[James M]

As strong as he is right now, he has always been very strong in short stage races and Unopuertos.

True and false. True regarding Unipuertos. Liege and San Sebastián especially compared to previous years, its a huge improvement, making the 'what if' scenario what he could achieved in the Giro compelling, if that be stage wins or a good GC result.

 

[Cycling111]

Biggest asterisk in any race in quite some time, the real question is whether it sparks a rule change.

No. It was an accident. If Pogacar had retired from the Tour, what rule would you have applied to the race? 🙄

This isn't the first time a rider has lost a race due to an accident. You can't set a rule because accidents can happen in many ways.

If there's no irregularity in the action, nothing can be done. They're called accidents for a reason. They're accidental situations.

By the way, Wellens did lose a race due to an accident deliberately caused by Lampaert at Baloise 2023

 

[Brullnux]

No. It was an accident. If Pogacar had retired from the Tour, what rule would you have applied to the race? 🙄

This isn't the first time a rider has lost a race due to an accident. You can't set a rule because accidents can happen in many ways.

If there's no irregularity in the action, nothing can be done. They're called accidents for a reason. They're accidental situations.

Clearly referring to a 3km rule on bunch uphill sprints with a categorised climb, not expelling Del Toro or anything ridiculous.

The issue is of course where the 'peloton' is, and where you install someone like Ciccone post-crash.

 

[Rob5091]

Del Toro must be getting tired of seeing Ciccone go up the road, but Del Toro got the GC and Ciccone the stage, so honours shared. Be interesting to see how Ciccone does at the Vuelta.

 

[Cycling111]

Clearly referring to a 3km rule on bunch uphill sprints with a categorised climb, not expelling Del Toro or anything ridiculous.

The issue is of course where the 'peloton' is, and where you install someone like Ciccone post-crash.

I think not applying the 3km rule to those finishes is the right thing to do. If there isn't that rule with hill finishes, there's a reason: to avoid cheating. Faking an accident or a mechanical problem when someone is dropped.

Situations like Ciccone's are very unlucky, but I don't think the rules should be changed because it would lead to more controversial situations. They've already thought about this and concluded that it would cause more problems.

 

[Unchained]

Del Toro must be getting tired of seeing Ciccone go up the road, but Del Toro got the GC and Ciccone the stage, so honours shared. Be interesting to see how Ciccone does at the Vuelta.

Ciccone looked a little better, far from fresh, but he was able to pulse Del Toro a couple of times and got a decent gap!! Ciccone also showed up a couple of times at the Giro..I would have enjoyed if they did something against one another, Alps or Austria.. Del Toro benefited big time from a flying Rafel Majka,
Wondering about where Ciccone would fall in a gravel field? Guy just is pretty good at everything!! Del Toro will likely race at gravel worlds..Wouldn't mind seeing Giulio at Strade Bianchi or gravel worlds, he just has a flow..
Del Toro has some wiggle worm Alberto Contador thing going on.. in a group watch I said that Isaac climbs like he is channelling his inner Axel Rose from Guns and Roses!! Everyone thinks it's funny!!

 

[shalgo]

Burgos 2025: to be remembered as the “Hand of God” race.