Vuelta a España Stage 15: Avilés - Anglirú 144km

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Still, Angliru is only 6km of suffering, the km's before that aren't supersteep.

Besides, everyone is talking about major differences, but that will only happen when you park completely. I think the differences between the top riders will be small.

 

[LukeSchmid]

I'll never post here again if a BMC rider top 5's today

Santambrogio to get in the break and to ride up Angliru like he did that climb in the Tour of Austria. He actually rode quite well and got second behind Kessiakoff albeit a fair way back. However I would miss your posts so I hope it does not happen.

 

[auscyclefan94]

I'd find an excuse not to do it though if a BMC top 5'd on the Angliru I think I would be overcome with joy.

 

[hrotha]

Still, Angliru is only 6km of suffering, the km's before that aren't supersteep.

Besides, everyone is talking about major differences, but that will only happen when you park completely. I think the differences between the top riders will be small.

On the Angliru, the 10th rider over the top is traditionally around 3 minutes down. Those 6 km create huge gaps.

 

[ingsve]

Swedish Eurosport commentator Roberto Vacchi talked to Fredrik Kessiakoff this morning and he reports that Kessiakoff is feeling better. He managed to sleep during the night and is not running to the bathroom as often as he did yesterday and he has managed to eat as well. Kessiakoff is still rather defensive and says that he's not going to risk anything by attacking the leaders but rather he will try to manage his energy as best he can.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

On the Angliru, the 10th rider over the top is traditionally around 3 minutes down. Those 6 km create huge gaps.

Did you also see who was winning/competing in those times?

Heras, JM Jimenez, Simoni (after a long break) and Contador.
There is no one of that category. And if you take out the break in Simoni's case (since it was a breakaway) the difference is nowhere near as big.

Take out the superclimbers that won with 1 minute difference, and my words are true

 

[Pantani_lives]

Still, Angliru is only 6km of suffering, the km's before that aren't supersteep.

Besides, everyone is talking about major differences, but that will only happen when you park completely. I think the differences between the top riders will be small.

It's like riding the first half of l'Alpe d'Huez followed by six times the Mur de Huy.

 

[roundabout]

There're no dominant climbers in this Vuelta unless they have been hiding and it's a relatively easy and short Angliru stage.

Having wrote that, the race will be decided here. The leader after today will win the race.

 

[Benotti69]

Still, Angliru is only 6km of suffering, the km's before that aren't supersteep.

Besides, everyone is talking about major differences, but that will only happen when you park completely. I think the differences between the top riders will be small.

you have raced Angliru many a time?

here's what someone a bit of experience said:

"What do they want? Blood?

Vincente Belda, the manager of the now defunct Kelme team, said of the Angliru back in 2003.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Still, Angliru is only 6km of suffering, the km's before that aren't supersteep.

Besides, everyone is talking about major differences, but that will only happen when you park completely. I think the differences between the top riders will be small.

this, everyone is riding basically still, so the gaps will be small automatically as they always are and especially now *** edited by mod ***

 

[Tuarts]

Did you also see who was winning/competing in those times?

Heras, JM Jimenez, Simoni (after a long break) and Contador.
There is no one of that category. And if you take out the break in Simoni's case (since it was a breakaway) the difference is nowhere near as big.

Take out the superclimbers that won with 1 minute difference, and my words are true

Yeah someone posted results from '08 with the 30th rider around 8 minutes down, I think this time is will be around 5-6minutes to the 30th rider, still large gaps but not like we're used to seeing.

EDIT: Not that I agree with it being "only" 6km of racing, just the time gaps will be more compressed.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

What I was trying to say is the difference between top and sub-top is very small. And while the gaps will be much bigger than on previous mountains, they won't be the same as in 1999,2000,2002,2008

 

[AussieGoddess]

Yeah someone posted results from '08 with the 30th rider around 8 minutes down, I think this time is will be around 5-6minutes to the 30th rider, still large gaps but not like we're used to seeing.

EDIT: Not that I agree with it being "only" 6km of racing, just the time gaps will be more compressed.

then again - the gradients yesterday werent anything that much ... and Nibali and Purito still lost a minute!!!

For me - I think Anton will win the stage.

 

[hrotha]

What I was trying to say is the difference between top and sub-top is very small. And while the gaps will be much bigger than on previous mountains, they won't be the same as in 1999,2000,2002,2008

Probably, since on top of that the whole stage is also easier than in previous years. But here in Spain we keep hearing the baseless mantra that "Angliru doesn't create gaps" all the time on TV, and it's kind of jarring.

 

[LukeSchmid]

are you suggesting it is good for racing when riders inject themselves with substances?

if so, your post and mine belong in the clinic!

Only to hydrate themselves of course, dehydrated riders don't go up hill very fast.

 

[Moondance]

They're off...

 

[roundabout]

Probably, since on top of that the whole stage is also easier than in previous years. But here in Spain we keep hearing the baseless mantra that "Angliru doesn't create gaps" all the time on TV, and it's kind of jarring.

Ok, that's probably the stupidest thing I've ever seen written on this forum.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Chavanel and Niemiec are the first to try and escape, but Movistar peg them back, I'm thinking there's our answer as to whether Niemiec will have a go now Scarponi's not there for him to serve.

 

[Lanark]

Probably, since on top of that the whole stage is also easier than in previous years. But here in Spain we keep hearing the baseless mantra that "Angliru doesn't create gaps" all the time on TV, and it's kind of jarring.

The same on Belgian tv, where Michel Wuyts always says that ultra-steep mountains never create big gaps, despite the fact that mountains like the Angliru and Zoncolan always have pretty huge gaps. Even in a pedestrian edition of those mountains you have a gap of 2 minutes between the number 1 and 10, which other mountains only get in rare circumstances.

 

[thirteen]

For me - I think Anton will win the stage.

that would really make my day! not sure he has it in him this race, but that would be redemption of sorts.

i'm trying really hard not to get too excited about this stage but Hitch's epic introduction got me once again

 

[Descender]

 

[Descender]

Moncoutié does not really excel on the super steep stuff, I'm afraid.

Surely Katusha must work for Moreno now? He was 10th here in 2008 while his form was a lot worse and he was only the 2nd lieutenant of Valverde (the first being Joaquin Rodriguez). He might be able to move up to 5th or so in the GC, while Rodriguez can only hope to make the top 10, even if he performs very well (which I doubt, by the way).

Uh? He won last year on the 4kms, 11,7% Xorret de Cati.

 

[AussieGoddess]

that would really make my day! not sure he has it in him this race, but that would be redemption of sorts.

yeah I think he is a bit better, and decided to conserve energy yesterday.

watching him on the Zoncolan was awesome - I hope he has another one in him.

i'm trying really hard not to get too excited about this stage but Hitch's epic introduction got me once again

and yes - me too

Its funny - the only one of my real favorites who is riding this tour is Scarponi ... and that didnt turn out too well for him, so I'm a bit surprised to find that Im still really enjoying this race. Even found myself cheering for Mollena yesterday

 

[Descender]

May I suggest a betting exchange like Betfair to lock in your winnings before El Cobo cracks on Angliru.

Or maybe you're a high roller who likes the risk.

I was gonna say the same thing but if he placed the bet on a standard betting site there's nothing he can do now but pray Cobo holds on and wins... on Betfair a trade now would be mandatory and, mind you, an absolutely brilliant business operation.

 

[LukeSchmid]

Even found myself cheering for Mollena yesterday

Traitor. Am I the only Aussie who has not jumped on the TGBM bandwagon?