Vuelta a España Stage 15: Avilés - Anglirú 144km

[Descender]

But the stage didn't create the gaps Heras and co did in the past.

12 guys within 2 minutes. Pretty much what I expected. Not the monster gaps of the past. Bigger than normal, but not huge. If there was no super Cobo the gaps would even be ridicolously small

If you're gonna take Cobo out then take Heras and Contador out... the gaps were smaller than other years, true, and riders look to be very even in this Vuelta, but this climb has still created more gaps than any other MTF, in fact at least twice as many as all MTFs except for yesterday.

And let's not forget this was the shortest stage of all 5 Angliru stages, and the one with less climbs.

 

[Scirea]

After looking at the stage profiles, i think Sky would have a better chance to do something on stage 18 than on Peña Cabarga the day before. Peña Cabarga doesn't siut them at all, i can't see how could they distance Cobo there or outsprint the like of Purito for bonus seconds. On stage 18 at least it's rolling up and down all day long. I don't think they can succeed there but they could do some kind of kamikaze attack maybe. Don't know.

 

[Forunculo]

Only one moto survive. I want to know about cars

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

congrats to cobo..

impressing ride.

and bad ride from fuglsang and chris anker sørensen, you are a f-ucking captain for Saxo .

thats is not good enough guys..

either you win or you loose.

Fuglsang actually didn't do bad. He finished a few seconds behind Nibali. He is simply not enough of a climber to do better

 

[sultanofhyd]

After looking at the stage profiles, i think Sky would have a better chance to do something on stage 18 than on Peña Cabarga the day before. Peña Cabarga doesn't siut them at all, i can't see how could they distance Cobo there or outsprint the like of Purito for bonus seconds. On stage 18 at least it's rolling up and down all day long. I don't think they can succeed there but they could do some kind of kamikaze attack maybe. Don't know.

They can do the 1-2, Wiggins to go first and force Cobo/Menchov to chase him down before he gets much time, then Froome, the climb is long enough for that.

But obviously it's not as simple as that, Wiggins should have the climb/attack of his life to force Cobo to chase hard.

Very hard for Froome to win this but it's possible. Needs all the help Wiggins can give.

 

[3wheeler]

2/7 for Cobo to hang on to the overall with two Sky Guys within a Minute .. Skinny Odds...

 

[Forunculo]

http://www.lavuelta.com/11/en/resultados/index.html?e=15

I count over 40 groups at table stage. Impossible to arrive packed. There is a last group of 8 riders at 23 min

 

[Forunculo]

2/7 for Cobo to hang on to the overall with two Sky Guys within a Minute .. Skinny Odds...

If Sky give Froome the lead... I see 50/50

 

[sultanofhyd]

congrats to cobo..

impressing ride.

and bad ride from fuglsang and chris anker sørensen, you are a f-ucking captain for Saxo .

thats is not good enough guys..

either you win or you loose.

Who do you think Chris Anker Sørensen is? Alberto Contador?

 

[sultanofhyd]

http://www.lavuelta.com/11/en/resultados/index.html?e=15

I count over 40 groups at table stage. Impossible to arrive packed. There is a last group of 8 riders at 23 min

Monfort is 5th? Holy sh!t, I did not even know till now that he is riding the Vuelta.

 

[Forunculo]

Monfort is 5th? Holy sh!t, I did not even know till now that he is riding the Vuelta.

He was the Leopard guy who pull for Andy before the Galibier. Impressive work

 

[Scirea]

They can do the 1-2, Wiggins to go first and force Cobo/Menchov to chase him down before he gets much time, then Froome, the climb is long enough for that.

But obviously it's not as simple as that, Wiggins should have the climb/attack of his life to force Cobo to chase hard.

Very hard for Froome to win this but it's possible. Needs all the help Wiggins can give.

Wiggins is not able to do that. Duarte/Menchov and the others will chase him down without problems.

 

[jsem94]

Cobo has got this in the bag now. Nothing can stop him except a crash, or some getting sick. Or failing a drug test.

 

[sultanofhyd]

He was the Leopard guy who pull for Andy before the Galibier. Impressive work

Yeah I know that. Just that I didn't notice him at all in the Vuelta.

Great race from him.

Great riders Leopard have got, almost all of them can lead the team in most races, but they still win ****-all.

 

[jens_attacks]

imagine wiggins attacking geox on pena cabarga,then froome will go.
who the fucc would have expected this?
i will so enjoy those stages.

 

[sultanofhyd]

Wiggins is not able to do that. Duarte/Menchov and the others will chase him down without problems.

Yeah, that's why it's very hard. If Froome had got someone like Purito in place of Wiggins, then....

 

[Scirea]

2/7 for Cobo to hang on to the overall with two Sky Guys within a Minute .. Skinny Odds...

No big mountain finish is very bad for Sky. And Cobo was the strongest in the mountains so far anyway, so... I'd say that odds is pretty big actually, should be more like 1/10.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Really, what Sky need is an ITT.

 

[Scirea]

And not to mention that Sky will have to chase back the break before the mountain. Because sure as hell Geox will just control the break but they'll let them get the bonus seconds if it's up to them.

 

[sultanofhyd]

And not to mention that Sky will have to chase back the break before the mountain. Because sure as hell Geox will just control the break but they'll let them get the bonus seconds if it's up to them.

Apart from Wiggins and Froome the rest of Sky has done ****-all work anyways, it should not be a big problem, look at how quickly Vacan pulled the break back today, they just need the intention.

 

[deValtos]

What were the riders times today up the climb ? Also how does that compare to the previous ascents. Thanks.

 

[GroupDK]

Who do you think Chris Anker Sørensen is? Alberto Contador?

Try to forget contador, just for a moment.

And read my lips. "contador is contador"

as easy as that !!

Chris Anker Sørensen is a very sympatic guy, but keep comming short on the steep climbs.

And has done it for years and also in the 2011 tour.

As easy as that

 

[sultanofhyd]

What were the riders times today up the climb ? Also how does that compare to the previous ascents. Thanks.

Just going by the CN live ticker times, I have Cobo at 43:44 today.

 

[sultanofhyd]

nice one hitch.
let's pray it won't rain because rain+cordal=always carnage for the big guys of gc.

i clocked the time ascents of angliru.here they are:

Angliru
2011:12,6 km@10%---
2008:12,6 km@10%---43:12---average speed 17.50 km/h(Alberto Contador)
2002:12,6 km@10%---43:41---average speed 17.30 km/h(Roberto Heras)
2000:12,6 km@10%---41:55---average speed 18.03 km/h(Roberto Heras)
1999:12,6 km@10%---44:50---average speed 16.86 km/h(Jose Maria Jimenez-Pavel Tonkov)
41:55 2002 heras
43:12 2008 contador
43:24 2002 tonkov
43:24 2002 laiseka
43:54 2008 valverde
44:10 2008 purito
44:13 2002 rumsas
44:17 2008 leipheimer
44:43 2002 escartin
44:44 2008 sastre
44:45 2002 Txema del Olmo
45:08 2008 gesink
45:30 2008 mosquera
45:36 2002 virenque
45:36 2002 casero
45:40 2008 zaugg

Cobo at 43:44

 

[deValtos]

Cheers, interesting info