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All it did was make me look really hard for the rider in his regular jersey before realising 1 minute later I was a dumbass and he's right there in white.Valv.Piti said:
I know that it doesn't have much of a purpose, since the winner of la combinada almost always was the overall victor of the race, but I found it attractive because of its uniqueness. If they could keep the classification, but with a blue (or whatever color) jersey, that could be nice. But in general, a combination classification would be more interesting, if there were different contenders to the jerseys, like in the Tour (points jersey won/contended by sprinters, climbers/breakaway riders battling it out for the polka-dot, white/yellow for GC). So in the end, I get why they changed it.
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According to Guillén they stuck to the combinada because of the sponsor, but they've changed the white jersey sponsor for next year.
UCI limits the number of jerseys to 4.Simurgh said:
According to Guillén they stuck to the combinada because of the sponsor, but they've changed the white jersey sponsor for next year.
It's fantastic that the Vuelta has fallen into step with most stage races by having a young riders jersey.
The Andorra stage will be less than 100km short
https://m.europapress.es/deportes/ciclismo-00396/noticia-montana-andorra-asturias-protagonistas-vuelta-espana-2019-presenta-alicante-20181218194510.html
Presentation is tomorrow at 19:30 CET
https://m.europapress.es/deportes/ciclismo-00396/noticia-montana-andorra-asturias-protagonistas-vuelta-espana-2019-presenta-alicante-20181218194510.html
Presentation is tomorrow at 19:30 CET
ASO and Unipublic are pushing so hard with this gimmick of the short stages that I've read today the Tour de l'Avenir will have a 23km stage to keep down with the big boys
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We're officially at the point of having TTTs longer than mountain stages boys.
Saw that yesterdayice&fire said:
We're officially at the point of having TTTs longer than mountain stages boys.
It's all for the riders being able to have a proper lunch before the stage and get rid of feed zones on the road
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Says 19.00 CET on the web site https://www.lavuelta.es/es/noticias/2018/la-vuelta-19-save-the-date-19-12-2019-2/16681 - mind you, if it's like the TdF, the first hour will be "missable"
ice&fire said:
Says 19.00 CET on the web site https://www.lavuelta.es/es/noticias/2018/la-vuelta-19-save-the-date-19-12-2019-2/16681 - mind you, if it's like the TdF, the first hour will be "missable"
Sub-100km stages, just in case anybody thought this was an endurance sport
Replacing one devalued classification with a worthless one that doesn't add anything to the race seeing as it's just a second GC award anyway
The combinada was supposed to reward the most consistent or all-round rider, but has been devalued by a number of trends in modern cycling that made it somewhat redundant, but the best young rider jersey doesn't add anything to a race because it is by definition handed out based on the GC, which people will likely be fighting for anyway, unless the best young riders are GC-irrelevant, in which case the battle for that jersey won't get any airtime anyway, like when Seeldraeyers won it in the '09 Giro. Christ, give us an Intergiro, or a Giro-style combinada, or an Activity Classification, even Metas Volantes. Do something rather than just the laziest option, for once.
Not feeling too enthused about this one.
Replacing one devalued classification with a worthless one that doesn't add anything to the race seeing as it's just a second GC award anyway
The combinada was supposed to reward the most consistent or all-round rider, but has been devalued by a number of trends in modern cycling that made it somewhat redundant, but the best young rider jersey doesn't add anything to a race because it is by definition handed out based on the GC, which people will likely be fighting for anyway, unless the best young riders are GC-irrelevant, in which case the battle for that jersey won't get any airtime anyway, like when Seeldraeyers won it in the '09 Giro. Christ, give us an Intergiro, or a Giro-style combinada, or an Activity Classification, even Metas Volantes. Do something rather than just the laziest option, for once.
Not feeling too enthused about this one.
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I agree, or maybe let us come up with something more interesting. Like maybe something for most time in the breaks, or something that has nothing to do with GC.
Libertine Seguros said:
I agree, or maybe let us come up with something more interesting. Like maybe something for most time in the breaks, or something that has nothing to do with GC.
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I also thougth it would be at 19:00, but after I saw that link I checked the Spanish TV schedule and they had it at 19:30. Today they've removed it but... they have the Real Madrid game in the Club World Cup at 17:30. It looks like Unipublic scheduled the presentation without properly checking other relevant sport events.
Robert5091 said:ice&fire said:
Says 19.00 CET on the web site https://www.lavuelta.es/es/noticias/2018/la-vuelta-19-save-the-date-19-12-2019-2/16681 - mind you, if it's like the TdF, the first hour will be "missable"
I also thougth it would be at 19:00, but after I saw that link I checked the Spanish TV schedule and they had it at 19:30. Today they've removed it but... they have the Real Madrid game in the Club World Cup at 17:30. It looks like Unipublic scheduled the presentation without properly checking other relevant sport events.
Unipublic must have enforced a no-leaks agreement with the host towns and all those involved in the route design. If we needed further proof we just have to check the cycling section in AS web site. Every year they have a map with the route early in the presentation day. Today they have this:
So the final days will be Guadarrama, Toledo, Gredos.
So the final days will be Guadarrama, Toledo, Gredos.
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Shite. I can understand some of the arguements used for shorter mountain stages, and can approve short and well-designed mountain stages of perhaps 120-150 km. But sub 100k is just pathetic. A 2-2,5 hour ride is just too short.
ice&fire said:
Shite. I can understand some of the arguements used for shorter mountain stages, and can approve short and well-designed mountain stages of perhaps 120-150 km. But sub 100k is just pathetic. A 2-2,5 hour ride is just too short.
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