Vuelta a España 2019 stage 9: Andorra La Vella - Cortals d'Encamp > 94.4km

[Lequack]

Bad call? Quintana gained time and got 6 bonus seconds and is now in red. The bad call was Valverde trying close the gap, dragging their biggest rival closer allowing him to minimize his time losses and then conceding the bonus seconds.

From yesterdays interview

 

[Escarabajo]

he was in the break today

I see. Thanks.
I guess he cannot go in the break in every mountain stage to get his top 10.

 

[Lequack]

The Breakaway: Stage 9 Analysis (12:48 English) — Eurosport

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1YmOJa78YM

Stage 9 Highlights (07:24 English) — GCNRacing

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuxCU9G-iGk

 

[TheBigRing]

From yesterdays interview

He can make a smooth transition into politics when he gets off the bike.

 

[topt]

Source?

me, watching the Vuelta internet page

 

[Blanco]

He was called back by his director. When you are part of a team you work for the team. The goal is to win the race overall not get a stage win for Soler.

I’m not sure if you’ve ever participated in any endurance sports, but when you have a target up the road wether on a bike or on a run, it makes it much easier to find the strength physically and mentally to get there. Valverde did that for Roglic. The fruit of that useless move by Valverde was to help Roglic limit his losses and gain bonus seconds. Those bonus seconds may be insignificant to the overall, but Roglic’s morale will be even higher for the TT.

This is a big picture game.

I see that you're new on the forum, but you came with some serious ***!

 

[TheBigRing]

I see that you're new on the forum, but you came with some serious ***!

Are your feelings hurt? What does being new have to do with my post? Debating point of views are what forums are for.

 

[Lequack]

 

[Koronin]

Happy for Pogacar to get the stage win. Other than when they called Soler back, Movistar's tactics were solid. IMO, Soler should have been called back sooner than he was. Quintana and Valverde are racing their own races. Valverde did not pull Roglic, once Roglic caught him Roglic did most of the work. For me Valverde's ride today is encouraging for the mountains still to come.

 

[search]

I see. Thanks.
I guess he cannot go in the break in every mountain stage to get his top 10.

there aren't many more than 10 guys left interested in the gc though... finishing 20 minutes behind the winner could be enough to make it in the end

 

[starlord]

The race looks like it is free of race radios and heavy team car statistician tactics ..it has radios sure but it would appear that the instructions are to "go for it!!!"

Marc Soler shakes his head again

 

[RedheadDane]

Stage 9 Highlights (07:24 English) — GCNRacing

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuxCU9G-iGk

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that preview picture is not from this stage...

 

[Blanco]

Are your feelings hurt? What does being new have to do with my post? Debating point of views are what forums are for.

No, not at all. Feel free to debate, I don't share your view, that's all

 

[Lequack]

Where the accident happened
"I crashed on the gravel today after I touched wheels with Sergio Higuita. There are no serious injuries and the time loss could've been worse in these circumstances. The team did a great job, I feel their support, that's the most important." - @SupermanlopezN

 

[Valv.Piti]

He can make a smooth transition into politics when he gets off the bike.

So who messed who up?

 

[DanielSong39]

There's no way that team orders cost Soler a stage win. Movistar race director only called him back late when he realized that Soler was going to be smoked anyway.

If Soler was strong enough he would've been laughing and relaxing on Pogacar's wheel while running a slow cadence on a big gear then sped away in the final kilometer to win by 10 seconds. Or at the very least, he would've pulled Quintana to the line while sulking and looking back several times in frustration. Neither happened so we know that Soler didn't have what it took to win the stage.

 

[DanielSong39]

Also with the stage win I'd have to put Pogacar in as a possible contender for red. It's gone from a 4-man race to a 5-man race.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

So Roglic and Lopez both crashed. That explains a few things.

 

[Escarabajo]

So Roglic and Lopez both crashed. That explains a few things.

One was knocked down by a motor bike and the other one was knocked down by a bike.

 

[Scoondle]

On a great day for Movistar, Marc Soler showed arrogance and that he is not a "team player". If he has problems with his manager he should discuss them privately and not make negative gestures towards his team on live television.
His contract shoud be terminated.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

One was knocked down by a motor bike and the other one was knocked down by a bike.

I heard (read) he crashed against a stationary motorbike. Not the other way around.

 

[Valv.Piti]

On a great day for Movistar, Marc Soler showed arrogance and that he is not a "team player". If he has problems with his manager he should discuss them privately and not make negative gestures towards his team on live television.
His contract shoud be terminated.

You realize that Quintana, Landa and Carapaz are leaving and Soler is the next man up, right?

 

[tobydawq]

There's no way that team orders cost Soler a stage win. Movistar race director only called him back late when he realized that Soler was going to be smoked anyway.

If Soler was strong enough he would've been laughing and relaxing on Pogacar's wheel while running a slow cadence on a big gear then sped away in the final kilometer to win by 10 seconds. Or at the very least, he would've pulled Quintana to the line while sulking and looking back several times in frustration. Neither happened so we know that Soler didn't have what it took to win the stage.

Sooo, for him to be strong enough to win would require him to be able to win by ten seconds?

 

[Lequack]

Podcast: Post-Stage 9 Analysis with Ned and David (42:03 English) — itv
http://www.steephill.tv/players/720...preaker.com/v2/episodes/18973087/play&yr=2019

 

[del1962]

You realize that Quintana, Landa and Carapaz are leaving and Soler is the next man up, right?

Won’t he be working for Mas