Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2020: Stage 5 (Huesca - Sabiñanigo, 181.4 km)

[titan31]

I don't think you can say the gaps were 100% not a result of the crash because without it you'd have had riders bridging that space and they'd probably all come in @ .st

Can see an argument either way.

Rewound back to the replay and I disagree. Roglic and Grosschartner were leading from the GC guys and were already putting a gap into Carapaz and Mas who were several riders ahead of Martin when he crashed.

Martin is a bit down when it happens. I'd say from Roux down are who are affected by the crash. Ahead of him those guys were not affected by it

 

[Devil's Elbow]

With the big climbs to come I dont think these small gaps will matter much.

Hindley and Hart disagree with this.

 

[JosefK]

Looks like the crash started with a touch of wheels on Roglic's rear wheel, so I expect they'll give everyone the same time.

 

[Eclipse]

Rewound back to the replay and I disagree. Roglic and Grosschartner were leading from the GC guys and were already putting a gap into Carapaz and Mas who were several riders ahead of Martin when he crashed

What I mean is I think you'd have had riders like Martin bridging that gap and ended up not having space for an official timegap.

Doesn't really matter given how small they were I suppose.

 

[Breezy1985]

Dan Martin down

I know the crash wasn't his fault but he always gives himself too much to do in the finale. It's cost him a few classics back in his prime and leaves him open to this kinda stuff

 

[perico]

I don’t know how you regulate Roglic here, but I don’t see how you give him a 4 second gap when he caused the crash that killed the momentum. I’d give em all the same time.

 

[Breezy1985]

I don’t know how you regulate Roglic here, but I don’t see how you give him a 4 second gap when he caused the crash that killed the momentum. I’d give em all the same time.

How did he cause it?

 

[Eclipse]

I know the crash wasn't his fault but he always gives himself too much to do in the finale. It's cost him a few classics back in his prime and leaves him open to this kinda stuff

That's why i was so shocked he actually timed it right the other day haha

he's definitely one of the riders in the bunch who doesn't exactly help themselves

 

[JosefK]

I don’t know how you regulate Roglic here, but I don’t see how you give him a 4 second gap when he caused the crash that killed the momentum. I’d give em all the same time.

Yes, it looks like the crash started at the very front of the group (before there were any gaps), and so it would seem fair to give everyone in that big group the same time as Roglic.

 

[perico]

How did he cause it?

He took the corner wide which forced Rojas to swerve. Rojas clipped Mas (who stayed upright) and took out Martin. There was not a gap when the crash happened.

 

[Breezy1985]

He took the corner wide which forced Rojas to swerve. Rojas clipped Mas (who stayed upright) and took out Martin. There was not a gap when the crash happened.

Cool thanks

 

[Billie]

Someone should make a comp of all of Dan Martins crashes in the final corner: Lombardia, Liege, Today

 

[Lequack]

He took the corner wide which forced Rojas to swerve. Rojas clipped Mas (who stayed upright) and took out Martin. There was not a gap when the crash happened.

Aerial replay of the crash

https://twitter.com/x/status/1320024745090363395

View: https://twitter.com/CyclingWiz/status/1320024745090363395?s=20

 

[perico]

Aerial replay of the crash

https://twitter.com/x/status/1320024745090363395

View: https://twitter.com/CyclingWiz/status/1320024745090363395?s=20

I don’t think it was in bad faith or anything, but Roglic definitely caused the crash and then put seconds into the rest who had their momentum affected.

 

[huangho]

Everyone will get ST as Roglic

 

[Inquitus]

Aye the official site says everyone ST as Roglic and Dan remains 5 seconds behind.

 

[Lequack]

Roglic: "And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for these meddling commissaires."

 

[perico]

Looking at the results, Martin and all the other riders ended up losing a crapload of time on the favorites- 2 minutes. Just put the main group at the same time. Probably not fair to all the riders who gained time on those unaffected but what else can you do?

 

[Lequack]

Looking at the results, Martin and all the other riders ended up losing a crapload of time on the favorites- 2 minutes. Just put the main group at the same time. Probably not fair to all the riders who gained time on those unaffected but what else can you do?

Make them do a repeat of the last 3kms.

Also:

 

[richwallone]

Everyone will get ST as Roglic

That's stupid, there clearly was a gap... Not that it matters as much in the big picture... And I know, the Giro jokes will come in quickly in a reply to my post

 

[Breezy1985]

Someone should make a comp of all of Dan Martins crashes in the final corner: Lombardia, Liege, Today

Lombardia was the worst when he slipped on the road going solo to the line

 

[Breezy1985]

That's stupid, there clearly was a gap... Not that it matters as much in the big picture... And I know, the Giro jokes will come in quickly in a reply to my post

How could there be a gap if he was part of the crash?

 

[titan31]

I think it should have been Roglic/Grosschartner with their gap and the rest at 2.17. I think no crash there's a gap there

 

[LaFlorecita]

I think it should have been Roglic/Grosschartner with their gap and the rest at 2.17. I think no crash there's a gap there

Yes, you may think that, but we have no way to be certain. Fact is that everyone except the first 4 riders lost momentum due to the crash. It would be unfair for them to lose 4 seconds as they had no chance to avoid that time loss.

 

[Rackham]

Yes, you may think that, but we have no way to be certain. Fact is that everyone except the first 4 riders lost momentum due to the crash. It would be unfair for them to lose 4 seconds as they had no chance to avoid that time loss.

Roglic doesn't need 4 seconds to win this Vuelta. He's stronger. Tomorrow & the following two weeks will shows this.