# Vuelta a España 2022: Pre-race discussion/hype tread

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#### Netserk

Didn't pay attention to Valverde hair but more to him having to wear sunglasses inside against all the light reflecting of Samus torso which apparently never spent a day in the sun.
Contador didn't lie, he spend a lot of time on the beach that year.

#### cen

If Jumbo manages to get Roglic in green it's game over. Based on my back-of-the-envelope calculation, the mythical being Froglic gains 0.1W/kg for each day in green. That should be enough to frogstomp Remco into pedaling backwards.

#### houtdffan

If Jumbo manages to get Roglic in green it's game over. Based on my back-of-the-envelope calculation, the mythical being Froglic gains 0.1W/kg for each day in green. That should be enough to frogstomp Remco into pedaling backwards.

Not with the way Remco is training. His times have been borderline absurd (like doing a climb 4 minutes faster than Gaudu)

johnymax

#### Netserk

Not with the way Remco is training. His times have been borderline absurd (like doing a climb 4 minutes faster than Gaudu)
We all remember Porte blasting the field in the 2014 Tour.

#### Valv.Piti

I think Porte was completely zapped due to the first week of rain and rolling stages. If I remember correctly, that year was particularly bad in that aspect. I wonder how the result would have looked if they started in Massif Central and 35 degrees, finishing in Mende

Sandisfan

If Jumbo manages to get Roglic in green it's game over. Based on my back-of-the-envelope calculation, the mythical being Froglic gains 0.1W/kg for each day in green. That should be enough to frogstomp Remco into pedaling backwards.

Roglic; the sprinter!

Sandisfan

#### Red Rick

Moderator
Going by training rides at vastly different times in the year.

It's a 1730 VAM climb for 22 minutes at low altitude. 4 minutes faster than Gaudu, Pinot and Kung yes. Who did it on presumably a training camp before Christmas. If you look for similar climbs, it's around what Hindley did on Carpegna while dropping around 1'30.

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#### Lequack

He's training with MVDP. I wonder if he's trying to recruit him into helping Belgium at the Worlds.

#### Valv.Piti

Poor Remco having to go against VDP and Wout in the biggest one day race of them all.

#### Boes

He's training with MVDP. I wonder if he's trying to recruit him into helping Belgium at the Worlds.

It's like a dad going for a bike ride with his kid

#### Tim Cahill

Good old Vuelta having most of the big stages on the weekend

Tour take note

#### Escarabajo

As we stand today, and because there are so many riders with chances I decided to take a look at the odds for the winner. I did it to organize my thoughts because if there is a definition of a shootout La Vuelta would be it!!!

Remco Evenepoel 5.00 4.50
Richard Carapaz 8.00 7.50
João Almeida 8.50 7.00
Jai Hindley 9.00 7.50
Simon Yates 11.00 10.00
Enric Mas Nicolau 17.00 13.00
Miguel Ángel López 17.00 15.00
Pavel Sivakov 17.00 15.00
Carlos Rodríguez 17.00 17.00
Sergio Higuita 21.00 17.00
Mikel Landa 21.00 21.00
Jack Haig 23.00 21.00
Sepp Kuss 26.00 26.00
Ben O'connor 34.00 26.00
Juan Ayuso 34.00 26.00
Tao Geoghegan Hart 34.00 26.0

You could make an argument or objection just about anybody on this list. That's why I am calling this Vuelta a shootout. Let's see who survives.

And you know the funny thing is that they forgot to list who will be the real winner of the race!!
(It is not Masnada!)

#### Filippo_3467

What really caught my eye: Pavel Sivakov is on the preliminary startlist of the Deutschland Tour. Of course plans can change, but It's kind of strange. On the other hand Bernal is rumoured to start there but is not on the startlist. So changes can still happen, but the startlist was only published today. So I don't know what this means tbh.

#### ice&fire

As we stand today, and because there are so many riders with chances I decided to take a look at the odds for the winner. I did it to organize my thoughts because if there is a definition of a shootout La Vuelta would be it!!!

Remco Evenepoel 5.00 4.50
Richard Carapaz 8.00 7.50
João Almeida 8.50 7.00
Jai Hindley 9.00 7.50
Simon Yates 11.00 10.00
Enric Mas Nicolau 17.00 13.00
Miguel Ángel López 17.00 15.00
Pavel Sivakov 17.00 15.00
Carlos Rodríguez 17.00 17.00
Sergio Higuita 21.00 17.00
Mikel Landa 21.00 21.00
Jack Haig 23.00 21.00
Sepp Kuss 26.00 26.00
Ben O'connor 34.00 26.00
Juan Ayuso 34.00 26.00
Tao Geoghegan Hart 34.00 26.0

You could make an argument or objection just about anybody on this list. That's why I am calling this Vuelta a shootout. Let's see who survives.

And you know the funny thing is that they forgot to list who will be the real winner of the race!!
(It is not Masnada!)
I like when bookies take bets on riders not starting the race

#### Elos Anjos

I noticed that too but thought it might be b/c he’s probably just going for stage hunting not the GC?
No, it's just utter ignorance. Even Landa's odds are there after reporting to "As" in the aftermath of Vuelta a Burgos that he is going to La Vuelta for stage hunts.

Sciatic

#### Wyndbrook

What really caught my eye: Pavel Sivakov is on the preliminary startlist of the Deutschland Tour. Of course plans can change, but It's kind of strange. On the other hand Bernal is rumoured to start there but is not on the startlist. So changes can still happen, but the startlist was only published today. So I don't know what this means tbh.
He's caught the winning bug, no need to make it hard to continue by going to Spain.

#### Unterlenkerfahrend

Remco shorter than Hindley - No wonder some bookies are wealthy.
Very hard to time two peaks for Giro/Vuelta. I don't know if the third week is hard enough for Hindley to make up what he will most likely lose before.

#### Riek s

any shot that Bernal will still do the vuelta if he rides good in the Deatschand Tour?

Would be a milestone for him, even if he might not start to win.

jflemaire