they always say that ITTs in GTs are different.
we may get an idea who is freshest/has recovered well so far.
we may get an idea who is freshest/has recovered well so far.
- Jun 7, 2011
- 20,975
- 20,310
- 28,180
Now include the gaps. 1s, 11s, 7s.
And Cancellara + Küng in 2016... Really? One was on the verge of retiring, the other was 4 years away of being a top contender. Guy in 2nd was... Brändle. Just 10s down.
Remco about to increase his lead. Apart from Roglic, hard to see what any of his rivals can do about it and Roglic isn't at his best anyway.
- Jul 12, 2012
- 448
- 547
- 10,880
- 2019 European Championships 22.4km 1st (Evenepoel, Asgreen, Affini)
- 2022 Tour De Suisse Stage 8 25.6km 1st (Evenepoel, Thomas, Kung)
- 2022 Volto Algarve 32.2km 1st (Evenepoel, Kung, Hayter)
- 2022 Belgian NT 34.8km 1st (Evenepoel, Lampaert, Campenaerts)
- 2021 Belgian NT 37.6km 2nd (Lampaert, Evenepoel, Campenaerts)
- 2019 Belgian NT 38.3km 3rd (Van Aert, Lampaert, Evenepoel)
- 2021 WC 43.3km 3rd (Ganna, Van Aert, Evenepoel)
- 2021 Olympics 44.2km 9th (Roglic, Dumolin, Dennis)
- 2021 Chrono des Nations 44.5km 5th (Kung, Madsen, De Marchi)
- 2019 WC 54km 2nd (podium Dennis, Evenepoel, Ganna)
- Mar 29, 2012
- 3,641
- 5,392
- 19,180
regarding Roglic and the Olympics:
That parcours was an outlier, and a day and night’s difference with the parcours today. (And that day, remco was not in shape)
This parcours favors strong rouleurs. Both Roglic and remco are better off with a parcours with some climbs. I reckon evenepoel is a bit better on a pan flat parcours, without underestimating Roglic’ ability to perform solid.
That parcours was an outlier, and a day and night’s difference with the parcours today. (And that day, remco was not in shape)
This parcours favors strong rouleurs. Both Roglic and remco are better off with a parcours with some climbs. I reckon evenepoel is a bit better on a pan flat parcours, without underestimating Roglic’ ability to perform solid.
- May 9, 2010
- 11,070
- 2,540
- 28,180
I predict that only two riders will be within a minute of Evenepoel. Of the GC contenders, only Roglic will be within 2 minutes.
- Jul 7, 2013
- 8,098
- 14,937
- 23,180
Oh man, tought day for all GC guys not named Evenepoel. I'm expecting Mas to be destroyed here losing around 2 minutes to Remco. Primoz will likely limit his losses to 30-40 seconds but he actually can't afford losing time anymore - he will likely be the only guy less than 3 minutes behind Remco after the stage.
- Nov 16, 2013
- 26,686
- 27,791
- 28,180
That's hardly a very convincing argument given what happened at the Rio Olympics...
But okay, as Eddy explains in the next post, the list is so bad that you're probably not the one to criticise here
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- Aug 31, 2019
- 3,513
- 6,294
- 14,180
Olympics 21: great performance, but the parcour was very hard.
Vuelta 21: I don’t know why you mentioning beating Cavagna, he wasn’t at this Vuelta. Cort was second. Also here the parcour was pretty hard.
Itulzia 21: I don’t understand what you mean here. In 21 he won in front of Mcnulty and Vingegaard. In 22 he beat the guys you mention. Both 21 and 22 Itulzia ITT was pretty short (13,8km in 21, 7,5km in 22) so strange to put them in this context of longer TTs.
Giro 19: again a very hard TT with a big climb in to San Marino.
Giro 17: He didn’t do Giro 17
WC 17: there was a big climb at the end of that race.
Giro 16: beating Cancellara and Kung is a bit strange to use as performance level mark, as Brandle and Stake Laengen was second and third. Also this TT was a bit strange with a lot of downhill and a lot false flat.
Instead of the short TT in Itulzia you Should have put these instead:
- Vuelta 19 (beating Bevin and Cavagna, but again pretty hilly course)
- Vuelta 20 (beating Barta with 1 second because of a 1,8 km 14% climb at the end)
There are also a bunch of longer TTs where he didn’t contest for win, Dauphine 22 and Tour 21 (injured) comes to mind.
Roglic is a very, very good TTer, but it seems like he is a lot better when it’s a bit of uphill on the course. He is actually not proven on long, flat TTs. It’s a bit fun that we come to a race type in GT where Roglic is not proven and Remco is.
Under normal circumstances Remco should be held as a favorite over Roglic on a flat parcour. Now with Roglic injuries I will say it’s a sensation if he beats Remco. Time loss could be anything between 15-60 seconds. Impossible to say how bad Roglic really is affected by the Tour crash.
- Dec 22, 2019
- 218
- 432
- 5,130
- Aug 29, 2009
- 7,885
- 7,082
- 23,180
Hayter is out with Covid. Also Nordgaard, but that was confirmed yesterday already
- Jun 11, 2021
- 2,188
- 4,920
- 11,180
It's gonna happen, isn't it? The young robot overtaking the local favorite.
Poor Mas, finally ahead of Roglic and now this. Very interested to see how well Ayuso and Rodriguez are going to do.
Poor Mas, finally ahead of Roglic and now this. Very interested to see how well Ayuso and Rodriguez are going to do.
- Aug 29, 2009
- 7,885
- 7,082
- 23,180
probably, but not sure the young guns are really better. Difficult to put their low level results into perspective. I mean, even a 4th place at the Spanish National Championships meant getting beaten by three no-names.
- Apr 10, 2019
- 12,075
- 15,990
- 23,180
Affini is also out of the race because of sickness, no other information was given.
- Aug 29, 2009
- 7,885
- 7,082
- 23,180
- May 27, 2022
- 1,334
- 2,349
- 7,680
What makes that photo even more crazy is that Virenque still finished second despite being caught for over two minutes!!It's gonna happen, isn't it? The young robot overtaking the local favorite.
Poor Mas, finally ahead of Roglic and now this. Very interested to see how well Ayuso and Rodriguez are going to do.
- May 27, 2022
- 1,334
- 2,349
- 7,680
And as usual, cycling is the sport that seems to be most effected by C19, despite having the most amount of proticals.
I've been told off for posting about this, but it's having a big impact on the race and if Remco were to test positive everyone on this forum would complain! All other sports seemed to have moved on and are doing fine.....
I've been told off for posting about this, but it's having a big impact on the race and if Remco were to test positive everyone on this forum would complain! All other sports seemed to have moved on and are doing fine.....
With Hayter and Affini now out the only threat to a Remco stage win realistically beyond his own teammates is if Rohan Dennis can roll back the years and find his worlds winning form again.
- Aug 13, 2011
- 7,883
- 12,040
- 23,180
With a 3 min head start to witness Ullrich crossing the line in front of him.
- Sep 14, 2020
- 1,774
- 2,749
- 11,180
Big movement in his price at the bookies. After Hayter withdrew he leapfrogged Roglic to second favourite and his odds have been halved.
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