Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2023, stage 17: Ribadesella/Ribadeseya - Altu de l’Angliru, 124.4k

[ontheroad]

Remco evidently dropped a bundle of time in preparation for a stage win from the break tomorrow so that makes him the big favourite. Other riders who may have a go from the break would be Bardet, Carthy, Martinez, Kamna and Poels. Still have memories of Poels accelerating up the inside of a hairpin riding up Angliru.

Remco doesn't beat the GC riders up Angliru but I think he beats all the other breakaway contenders by just dieseling up the climb. Vingegaard to launch from the GC group and ride himself into red. Mas to be the best of the rest.

 

[Red Rick]

Probably just Vingegaard from Les Cabanes

 

[ice&fire]

Probably just Vingegaard from Les Cabanes

Heras record is untouchable, but I'll be disappointed if he doesn't improve Horner's time.

 

[Red Rick]

Heras record is untouchable, but I'll be disappointed if he doesn't improve Horner's time.

Why would Heras' record be untouchable?

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

I initially thought Nature Boy would take it from the break, but I think JV are going to ride for the win and Vingo will go into the red by at least a minute, maybe 1:30 tomorrow.

 

[ZebraSpots]

Kuss to win on his birthday? Or will he have to make do with one of his teammates dedicating the win to him?

 

[Andy schleck]

Heras record is untouchable, but I'll be disappointed if he doesn't improve Horner's time.

It's a shame that vingegaard is not in tour de france shape. I think, it would be curious to see full gas, what time he could do on angliru.

 

[ontheroad]

There's no marking moves or playing tactics on the upper slopes, they will be going single digits. Roglic has to go early-ish, if he has the facilities for that kind of thing.

Evenepoel, if he's thinking of the future, should stay in the GC group and see how he stacks up, Vingegaard saying he's feeling at his TDF levels after todays stage.

I'm not sure he is actually at that level but if he said that and it's true then it's curtains for everybody else and he could easily take 1-2 minutes on tomorrows stage.

 

[hfer07]

Vingegaard to go Thermonuclear in order to claim La Roja

 

[Rackham]

Kuss to win on his birthday? Or will he have to make do with one of his teammates dedicating the win to him?

Vingegaard to take red & dedicate his victory to Kuss on his birthday, as a gift. Meanwhile Rog will attack Ayuso at the finish & the internet will light up with comments labelling him a terrible teammate.

I can't wait.

 

[Nick2413]

I still have hope for Kuss to remain in red. He should be strong, today he wasn’t allowed to ride until the final k and he’s never the best in that parcours anyway. It should be a free race to show who’s best within JV and have a feeling Roglic will struggle the most, losing time to Ayuso and maybe Mas.

Jonas still probably to perform the best but both his wins have happened when he wasn’t being fully chased. 4 days ago he was arguably less strong than Kuss on Tourmalet despite winning the stage, and today the gaps would’ve been much lower, although he did look the best.

 

[Aimar16]

You obviously don't get the fact that the GC has nothing to do with making him earn the KOM

So, you think Jumbo will waste energy just to troll Remco?

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Vingegaard to take red & dedicate his victory to Kuss on his birthday, as a gift. Meanwhile Rog will attack Ayuso at the finish & the internet will light up with comments labelling him a terrible teammate.

I can't wait.

"Sepp, I dedicate my victory, which strips you of the leader's jersey, to you as a birthday gift."

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I forgot an important factor: Kuss has birthday tomorrow so maybe Jonas & Rogla won't attack and let him win?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

I forgot an important factor: Kuss has birthday tomorrow so maybe Jonas & Rogla won't attack and let him win?

But what if Vingegaard has a better horoscope, that has to count for something, right?

 

[SHAD0W93]

Evenepoel from the break or a Vinge beat down. Ayuso and Mas to finish ahead of Roglic and Almeida, with Kuss and Soler hanging together.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Tomorrow on Angliru:
Grischa: "Keep calm, guys. We just cover other moves. Don't attack first!"
Jonas drops the rest and says: "I can't hear you. The radio is down and powermeter as well - it shows over 7 w/kg."
Rogla to Kuss: "I love you Sepp but the Skeletor won't get away with this again. Cya at the finish!"
Kuss at the finish: "Those traitors will regret attacking the stamina king from Colorado. I'm open to cooperation with Ayuso and Mas during next stages"
Grischa at the finish: "All went perfectly to the plan. The team work at its finest"

 

[Bolder]

It's a shame that vingegaard is not in tour de france shape. I think, it would be curious to see full gas, what time he could do on angliru.

He's not that far off right now. I think he's going to take 2 minutes on the rest of the GC field. Question is if Roglic and Kuss can pace themselves to stay on the podium.

 

[ManicJack]

So, you think Jumbo will waste energy just to troll Remco?

Troll?

 

[Samamba]

Vingegaard to show the world he's miles above the rest when 100% fit.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Vingegaard to take red, only for Kuss to attack on Thursday and claim it back.
Karma is a ***.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I forgot an important factor: Kuss has birthday tomorrow so maybe Jonas & Rogla won't attack and let him win?

Well, they gave him a day off for his birthday on Grand-Colombier three years ago.

 

[JosefK]

"Sepp, I dedicate my victory, which strips you of the leader's jersey, to you as a birthday gift."

Jonas: "Sepp, I see how happy my winning makes you. I was tired after yesterday, but because I care so much about you, I will make this personal sacrifice and win by 5 minutes just to make you joyous."

 

[bill1109]

Troll?

not sure about trolling but to shut down his gimmick rides will always love to see that. remco was afraid to lose ugly against real, in shaped, uncrashed gc riders...so he too a snooze and recovery ride in hopes to be let loose on gimmick rides. i hope JV or anyone shuts him down.

 

[cen]

Roglic finally decides to establish the team hierarchy and his TdF bid and attacks on the 20% section. Anything other that.. dissapointing.