Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2023, stage 2: Mataró - Barcelona, 181.8k

[roundabout]

Mega dodgy gaps on the Tissot page

La Vuelta - 2 - Mataró > Barcelona | Tissot Timing

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Definitely a spectator with a stopwatch and or phone needed

 

[Netserk]

For the record, these were the actual gaps at the finish-line (so irrelevant for GC):

 

[Nick2413]

So what is the general forecast looking like the next week or so? How many days do we have to wait until they try ruining a major mountain stage?

 

[joseph89]

Jumbo trying to neutralise the race for roglic and remco helping too, for thomas - just trolling

 

[Volderke]

just use the ignore button ... its easier

you weren't answering anyway, e.g. when you mentioned Sevilla as a dark TTT but ignored the fact that Sevilla was the same for all teams, while the problem in Barcelona was the darkness for some. When you got replies about that, you just remained silent. You're on my ignore list from now on by the way, as you're not making meaningful contributions whatsoever. The last I saw was you referring to an outdated CN article about Remco and the location of GC neutralisation. You knew it was outdated, but you wanted to stir the pot, I reckon.

 

[Netserk]

GC of the Vuelta so far

Neutralised:

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Not neutralised:

 

[search]

How long does it take to set up transponder detector equipment?

question may also be, how much of it they do have, I guess.

It looks amateurish now, but if they didn't have timing judges and equipment available for three different spots within 10k, then what can you do. Improvising at the least important one is probably the right way to go (although they should still take their own pictures, of course).

 

[Tim Cahill]

Been a great Vuelta so far tbh, apart from the guys getting injured the drama and outrage is what it's all about.

It would've just been a sleepy day with 30 seconds of uphill sprint with probably Groves or something winning anyway.

GT's are meant to test all-round abilities and riding in the dark and rain are all part of it.

 

[Netserk]

question may also be, how much of it they do have, I guess.

It looks amateurish now, but if they didn't have timing judges and equipment available for three different spots within 10k, then what can you do. Improvising at the least important one is probably the right way to go (although they should still take their own pictures, of course).

Then they could have chosen to take the time at the points sprint.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

GC of the Vuelta so far

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Not neutralised:

The danger to the riders aside that second picture is actually pretty stunning.

 

[search]

Then they could have chosen to take the time at the points sprint.

yeah, that would have probably made more sense altogether. What I meant to say is just that we should keep in mind that there are a lot of people and logistics involved, different companies and so on. So a late change can quickly lead to some problems.

 

[zlev11]

GC of the Vuelta so far

Neutralised:

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Not neutralised:

seriously, Adam Hansen should be fired for this. he completely failed at his job this weekend. what is the point of his position if he allows yesterday to happen? and then he completely ruins the next stage to make up for it. how hard was it for him to check out the itinerary timetable of the TTT? my dumb ass sitting here in Long Island, New York looked it up the other day and thought "sh*t, the last handful of teams are going to be riding in the dark". then today, just a classic overreaction that he has become accustomed to. a complete clownshow.

 

[proffate]

GT's are meant to test all-round abilities and riding in the dark and rain are all part of it.

Rain, sure; dark, what? This isn't the January commuter world championships. Why not throw in some angry motorists to see who has the best Frogger skills?

 

[tobydawq]

question may also be, how much of it they do have, I guess.

It looks amateurish now, but if they didn't have timing judges and equipment available for three different spots within 10k, then what can you do. Improvising at the least important one is probably the right way to go (although they should still take their own pictures, of course).

Yeah, I also think it's a bit lame to criticise the organisers for this. That was always going to happen when they changed the "finish line".

You could say they could have used that as an argument to not change the line but I doubt that would have been deemed a reasonable point.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Do you have to be so nasty? Are you looking to feel protagonist? Do you need to be listened to?

In fairness to Volderke, I objected to him in a PM, and he deleted the personal part of his response very promptly.

Which shows more integrity than many of the bombastic posters here.

 

[Netserk]

The dangerous descent in the finale today #SafetyFirst

 

[tobydawq]

Been a great Vuelta so far tbh, apart from the guys getting injured the drama and outrage is what it's all about.

It would've just been a sleepy day with 30 seconds of uphill sprint with probably Groves or something winning anyway.

GT's are meant to test all-round abilities and riding in the dark and rain are all part of it.

Lol

 

[Bonimenier]

The dangerous descent in the finale today #SafetyFirst

The reason GC riders weren't happy with the initial point of neutralisation was that it was mainly the run in to the Montjuïc that was dangerous. So not sure what you're trying to argue with this irrelevant post.

 

[Riek s]

GC of the Vuelta so far

Neutralised:

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Not neutralised:

Yeah, in both situations they took the situation before the race to determine the outcome.

 

[hfer07]

another day, another complaining by Remco

 

[Berniece]

Happy the GC riders took a stance and the organisation followed. Safety comes first.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

yeah, that would have probably made more sense altogether. What I meant to say is just that we should keep in mind that there are a lot of people and logistics involved, different companies and so on. So a late change can quickly lead to some problems.

They had several hours to move the equipment (equivalent to what half the municipal gardens in the country have set up every Saturday morning for Parkruns) 9km down the road (several km less actually, considering the loop around Montjuic) and plenty of staff to do it.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

The worst post-race interview has to be that by Thomas, who was complaining about the speed at which the teams who were chasing the breakaway took the roundabouts. Doesn't get more insufferable than that.

 

[Netserk]

The worst post-race interview has to be that by Thomas, who was complaining about the speed at which the teams who were chasing the breakaway took the roundabouts. Doesn't get more insufferable than that.

At least the interviewer asked the relevant questions.

 

[roundabout]

seems that correct results are up now, so the timing was handled well enough in the end