Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2025, Stage 17: O/El Barco de Valdeorras – Alto de El Morredero (143.2k)

[JosefK]

Pellizzari and Lipowitz give Red Bull legit podium threats in all grand tours.

 

[AnotherArmChair]

I do think Almeida should have had better team support here ...Jonas is tired and they could take this if he had someone up there in top 10 fighting for him and with him. If I were him i would not be happy

 

[Mayomaniac]

And this young man is just going to dom for all those GT wjnners next year?

Wishful thinking by the Belgian mafia...

 

[Red Rick]

By the way, Ricitello trying to attack across Pellizzari made no sense whateover because the only legit aim he can have in his situation is to overtake Gall in the GC, so he should have just been pacing that group all along. He's already behind Pellizzari, he's gona lose even more time in the ITT, and he's not gonna make up the time on Bola del Mundo

 

[Unchained]

i dunno. the graffiti was very disconcerting for those of us of a sensitive nature ;-)

With all events up to now..including Romo abandoned because of injuries.. A little levity from sophomoric street art is maybe what we all needed.. Other than Ayuso and Jorgenson's behavior not much to laugh about..

 

[Ilmaestro99]

This is catastrophic stage design. I can't get over this. You have Jonas vingegard and his main rival getting dropped by the likes of piddock and a teenager on a big GC stage . This is a major upset. But it doesn't result in any actual drama for the race cos it all happen with 2km to go. With 2 or 3 hard passes this could have been a Glandon, a fuente de, a agnello level drama. But no. Uniporto uphill sprints only.

 

[Unchained]

By the way, Ricitello trying to attack across Pellizzari made no sense whateover because the only legit aim he can have in his situation is to overtake Gall in the GC, so he should have just been pacing that group all along. He's already behind Pellizzari, he's gona lose even more time in the ITT, and he's not gonna make up the time on Bola del Mundo

Shame that your avatar photo can't be bigger!! Need more definition! Riccitello raced excellent, he measured everything correctly in my opinion.
This elite group at the end all rode great.
Pidcock continues to impress.. Reading about all the new blood coming to Q36 is really positive.

 

[AnotherArmChair]

With all events up to now..including Romo abandoned because of injuries.. A little levity from sophomoric street art is maybe what we all needed.. Other than Ayuso and Jorgenson's behavior not much to laugh about..

i was joking but I missed Jorgenson's behavior what was that ?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

This is catastrophic stage design. I can't get over this. You have Jonas vingegard and his main rival getting dropped by the likes of piddock and a teenager on a big GC stage . This is a major upset. But it doesn't result in any actual drama for the race cos it all happen with 2km to go. With 2 or 3 hard passes this could have been a Glandon, a fuente de, a agnello level drama. But no. Uniporto uphill sprints only.

Yeah, on a real Tappone, Pidcock would have gained hours, he‘s such a great climber. He‘d also need to attack which he didn‘t really do at all

 

[Kaptain Kool]

I guess that's a wrap. Nothing more to watch in this Vuelta other than maybe the last couple of kms on Bola del Mundo. Not the best addition but I still appreciate everyone's comments. Long live the King of Grand Tours! See y'all next year!

 

[Sciatic]

By the way, Ricitello trying to attack across Pellizzari made no sense whateover because the only legit aim he can have in his situation is to overtake Gall in the GC, so he should have just been pacing that group all along. He's already behind Pellizzari, he's gona lose even more time in the ITT, and he's not gonna make up the time on Bola del Mundo

On the other hand, at least someone (along with Pellizzari) was trying to attack.

 

[AnotherArmChair]

at least Vinge being tired proves he is normal.... Same with Almeida

Only Pogacar is an alien when it comes to never being tired

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Giulio deserves more praise. Result of the stage:

1	Pellizzari Giulio	Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe	180	80	10″	3:37:00
2	Pidcock Thomas	Q36.5 Pro Cycling Team	130	50	6″	0:16
3	Hindley Jai	Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe	95	35	4″	0:18
4	Vingegaard Jonas	Team Visma | Lease a Bike	80	25		0:20
5	Almeida João	UAE Team Emirates - XRG	60	18		0:22
6	Riccitello Matthew	Israel - Premier Tech	45	15		0:26
7	Gall Felix	Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team	40	12		0:53
8	Træen Torstein	Bahrain - Victorious	35	10		,,
9	Kuss Sepp	Team Visma | Lease a Bike	30	8		0:58
10	Jorgenson Matteo	Team Visma | Lease a Bike	25	6		1:44
11	Dunbar Eddie	Team Jayco AlUla	20	5		2:36
12	Guardeño Jaume	Caja Rural - Seguros RGA	15	4		2:41

 

[Unchained]

This is catastrophic stage design. I can't get over this. You have Jonas vingegard and his main rival getting dropped by the likes of piddock and a teenager on a big GC stage . This is a major upset. But it doesn't result in any actual drama for the race cos it all happen with 2km to go. With 2 or 3 hard passes this could have been a Glandon, a fuente de, a agnello level drama. But no. Uniporto uphill sprints only.

For me the race design overall has been outstanding, the weakness I see in the composition is both TTT and ITT should have been 10-15 k longer! Today's stage was great opportunity to concentrate only on race, racers, not even vegetation was a distraction. And each day some level of surprise by great rides , today Pellizzari pounding out an impressive finish. Seeing how baked everyone is, ITT and stage 20 can add mystery to overall winner. Almeida nearly blew up today, Vingegaard looking listless..

 

[Sciatic]

This is catastrophic stage design. I can't get over this. You have Jonas vingegard and his main rival getting dropped by the likes of piddock and a teenager on a big GC stage . This is a major upset. But it doesn't result in any actual drama for the race cos it all happen with 2km to go. With 2 or 3 hard passes this could have been a Glandon, a fuente de, a agnello level drama. But no. Uniporto uphill sprints only.

One good thing about the stage design is it was the perfect climb if the organization and police wanted to keep out undesirables: extremely isolated location; entrance into the climb is via a very narrow road with the river on one side and cliffs on another, and a stiff climb even for walkers to get anywhere near the finish.

 

[AnotherArmChair]

I suspect that Hindley and Pidcock wasted their legs today as they were capable of winning the stage.

Pidcock said as much...that he could have gone for the stage but was watching for the podium

 

[AnotherArmChair]

Jonas saying he was not feeling good today

 

[Tanakka]

Red Bull may have a legit argument to have the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th best climber in the world. And wherever the hell Evenepoel falls.

3. Rogla
4. Lipo
5. Hindley
6. Pellizzari
Did I get the order correct?

Forget about now... no matter what the correct order would be, there are no more decisions to be made in 2025. It's almost over.

But when the 2026 GT season comes, what will the actual pecking order be?

How the hell are they going to split them (Remco-Roglic-Hindley-Lipo-Pellizzari)?
Will Giulio have to be a domestique for guys who might not be any better than he is?

 

[Unchained]

i was joking but I missed Jorgenson's behavior what was that ?

Currently forbidden topic.. Think Mean Girls race bikes..
And another life lesson.. Don't send texts or tweets that you don't want others to see or read.
Matteo almost identical to Brad Pitt character in funny film..Destroy After Reading! The parallel is uncanny..it's as if Jorgenson mimics the movie as a how to for his behavior!

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Yeah, on a real Tappone, Pidcock would have gained hours, he‘s such a great climber. He‘d also need to attack which he didn‘t really do at all

Let me complain please

 

[Rob5091]

Chapeau Pellizzari! Had fun last year with Pogi at the Giro and now a stage win, although no one seemed to want to attack, apart from Riccetello (who's only 2 seconds behind 6th placed Gall on GC). That said a lot I think.
All eyes on the TT imorgon - if it gets completed of course. Vingegaard has not shone this year in TT's so could be interesting.

 

[Sciatic]

Bernal and Landa had nothing left after yesterday's tag-team effort; or figure they'll just save energy and get in the break on Stage 20.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

at least Vinge being tired proves he is normal.... Same with Almeida

Only Pogacar is an alien when it comes to never being tired

Pogacar was tired after the Tour. Otherwise he would smoke those weaklings at the Vuelta.

 

[RobertCrawley]

at least Vinge being tired proves he is normal.... Same with Almeida

Only Pogacar is an alien when it comes to never being tired

He looked like death warmed over after stage 18. Those last few days looked tough, and then Wout dropped him easily in Paris.

 

[Red Rick]

3. Rogla
4. Lipo
5. Hindley
6. Pellizzari
Did I get the order correct?

I care not for the order I solely said it for the Evenepoel punchline.