Vuelta a San Juan 2023 (January 22-29)

[Zinoviev Letter]

Stage was decided when Jakobsen lost Morkov’s wheel. If he’d followed his leadout train it would have been a normal sprint between the two big sprinting names

 

[Kazistuta]

It was indeed a very chaotic finale - not just the last k, but also those before. It wasn't clear where the riders' space was and where spectators and cars belonged. I love to see races outside of Europe, would wish there were more big races in countries like Argentina, but that just doesn't look like the organizers knew what they were doing. I could anticipate the crash a few seconds before, which is never a good sign for the organizers.

There was no crash in the final? If you're talking about the one with around 8k to go, that's clearly rider error on a big road.

 

[yaco]

Not sure if this is the best stage race for Evenepoel. On such sprinters dominated stage profiles i somehow doubt he will be able to help much in regards to being a part of a sprint train. And there is one stage that will likely decide GC. And here i feel that somebody like López has much more to prove. But that is not the main issue i see. The main issue i see is high risk of crashes. Like 80% of stages have a high risk of crash. And this is in my opinion just not worth it. For somebody like Evenepoel. On the pros side. He will likely get some fans for participating. Bennett will likely try to dominate this race. Nice win for Bennett on stage 1.

Remco is contracted to appear at San Juan.

 

[Extinction]

Maybe best if they try to use up Evenepoel sooner. On the "difficult" sections. To try to put some nails in Bennett legs. And at the end of stages for Evenepoel to get out of the way sooner.

We'll see.

Yea, but that wastes Evenepoel's brilliancy for GC. He's there to win the thing. If Jakobsen needs nails in Bennett's legs to win sprints, then he's done for.

 

[search]

Yea, but that wastes Evenepoel's brilliancy for GC. He's there to win this thing.

Evenepoel said he is there to help Jakobsen. Winning himself is a goal for UAE and Catalunya again.

But he may still win, of course.

 

[Extinction]

Evenepoel said he is there to help Jakobsen. Winning himself is a goal for UAE and Catalunya again.

But he may still win, of course.

Sure, but I doubt what he says and what his actual ambitions are coincide.

 

[Extinction]

Has Remco led Jakobsen astray?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1616898376259502082

View: https://twitter.com/Tatrod/status/1616898376259502082?s=20&t=jvvB57-UISSRORXtKC1qtw

Looks like inwardly he wants to project superiority, like the inspecting general (Nice clothes. Yours too. Mine is a bit better, aye"), but inside it's awkward . Of course, but Belgian humor doesn't exactly come across as ironic, even if intended to be.

 

[BR2]

There was no crash in the final? If you're talking about the one with around 8k to go, that's clearly rider error on a big road.

Yeah, it was riders' error, but there are errors that are almost forced, at least incented. There were parked vehicles on the road without being marked or barricaded, I consider that a risk even on a broad road in the lead up to a bunch sprint.

 

[Berniece]

Looks like inwardly he wants to project superiority, like the inspecting general (Nice clothes. Yours too. Mine is a bit better, aye"), but inside it's awkward . Of course, but Belgian humor doesn't exactly come across as ironic, even if not intended to be.

The pun of the joke makes sense, but he delivers it very poorly. It was pretty awkward.

 

[Lequack]

Looks like inwardly he wants to project superiority, like the inspecting general (Nice clothes. Yours too. Mine is a bit better, aye"), but inside it's awkward . Of course, but Belgian humor doesn't exactly come across as ironic, even if not intended to be.

Remco: "Are you talking bad about me, huh? Who is the world champion here? That's what I thought..."

PS: Don't take this too seriously, I still love Remco.

 

[Extinction]

Remco: "Are you talking bad about me, huh? Who is the world champion here? That's what I thought..."

PS: Don't take this too seriously, I still love Remco.

It's a good asset when you have the necessary pressure to bear and have people willing or forced to listen. And at 23 at that, but watch out for these outbursts

 

[BR2]

I would take it as a simple joke, but coming from Remco I know him enough now to know there's a good deal of actual narcisism involved. Well, he makes a good antagonist for me if he's riding against Bernal...

 

[Lequack]

The only question is, does Jakobsen follow Remco today or not?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

The only question is, does Jakobsen follow Remco today or not?

He could try following Mørkøv or Van Poppel. That usually works.

 

[Lequack]

Leader

 

[DJ Sprtsch]

Break of 12 have 5 minutes. Includes El Niño Sevilla!

 

[LesDiablesRouges]

Sure, but I doubt what he says and what his actual ambitions are coincide.

Why?

He literally cooked his own WC road race chances in 2019 in order to try to bring Phil Gilbert back into the race at Harrowgate.

He's done leadouts for sprinters on several occasions.

He's led out for Alaphilippe.

The one issue would be the 2021 WC road race and in that case I still blame Vanthourenhout for having such tunnel vision for strategy.

 

[Lequack]

30 kmh winds but nothing is going to happen, since all the teams want a sprint finish. What a drag.

 

[Extinction]

Why?

He literally cooked his own WC road race chances in 2019 in order to try to bring Phil Gilbert back into the race at Harrowgate.

He's done leadouts for sprinters on several occasions.

He's led out for Alaphilippe.

The one issue would be the 2021 WC road race and in that case I still blame Vanthourenhout for having such tunnel vision for strategy.

So you mean to say 2019 is 2023?

Sure he does leadouts in races that offer nothing to gain by, but by now it's perfunctory, and done only within the economy of the race and his career. When the screws tighten, however, I garauntee he won't be doing leadouts.

Don't get me wrong, I hear you.

 

[Extinction]

So, right now, they are riding in a flat desertscape, with nary a village in sight, no people, scrub vegetation, sand, tumble weed, desolation...how is this appealing?

Oh, wait, it's for the adventurists.

 

[Lequack]

This is making me long for UAE Tour.

 

[red_flanders]

So, right now, they are riding in a flat desertscape, with nary a village in sight, no people, scrub vegetation, sand, tumble weed, desolation...how is this appealing?

Oh, wait, it's for the adventurists.

I’m with ya. Brutally ugly race. Bring on the classics!

 

[Lequack]

If Quickstep doesn't win today they should go home and rethink their wolf strategies.

 

[Samamba]

This one is an early nominee for the most boring race of the year.

 

[LesDiablesRouges]

This one is an early nominee for the most boring race of the year.

Terrible course. Week tours should not have 6 spint stages and one mountain stage.