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Then the TdF-guys like Aru, Bardet and Contador, I don't really know. Contador has never tried this, but has obviously done the Giro-Tour which is a tad harder. With decent results everything considering. But I don't think he will be in it to win it, neither do I think Bardet. Aru could potentially be a wildcard given he hasn't raced much, but I think Bardet and Contador are pretty spent.
For the top-5? Sure, maybe even top-3 and a stage win. Lots of opportunities. But I simply can't see him challenge for the win, I don't think his ceiling is that high. Zakarin can, Chaves likewise and obviously Nibali. I think those 3 riders have shown that their top-level can be high enough to win the Vuelta. And then my personal joker and and a rider I think can win if everything falls into place and he doesnt crash: M.A. Lopez. We haven't seen enough, but incredibly high ceiling and we just never know. Could be pulling a Quintana in 2013 TdF-performance for all that I know, he is just that talented.Blanco said:
Then the TdF-guys like Aru, Bardet and Contador, I don't really know. Contador has never tried this, but has obviously done the Giro-Tour which is a tad harder. With decent results everything considering. But I don't think he will be in it to win it, neither do I think Bardet. Aru could potentially be a wildcard given he hasn't raced much, but I think Bardet and Contador are pretty spent.
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If he feels fresh then he will obviously have decent to good shot, but thats my point. I necessarily don't think he is super fresh after a normal Contador-year with hard spring + TdF, but we don't have any reference on that really given he has never done it.Red Rick said:
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can movistar team look smth like this?
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Very plausible. Arcas, Soler, Carapaz and Fernandez have been confirmed for La Vuelta by Unzue afaik. Dani Moreno and Barbero are pretty much a gimme. Just needs one more addition. Betancur perhaps, but I think there are some more likely options, such as Winner, Nelson Oliveira, Sutherland.capuldemetal said:
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Riders expected to do the Tour-Vuelta double (Betancur, Erviti, maybe Sütterlin) won't do any race in between. Non-climbers doing the Vuelta after resting during the Tour (Rojas?, Sutherland?) may be sent to any other race in the team calendar to get some racing miles: Poland, BinckBank (former ENECO) or Tour de l'Ain.capuldemetal said:
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If Bardet ain't got no gc intention for the Vuelta, he should simply focus on the Italian fall classics IMHO!
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Barbero depends on they are going full stage hunting mode, I somewhat hope they will. Maybe Rojas is better for that role tho, then he can finally get to ride for himself, guy is mightily strong.
Surprised by Arcas, I would have thought he simply wasn't good enough (same with Pedrero, altho he was actually very good in Tour de Suisse on the climbs) I would like Carretero to ride it, but maybe he is too young. Thats the most talented out of those 3 domestiques IMO, but its still pretty early.DNP-Old said:
Barbero depends on they are going full stage hunting mode, I somewhat hope they will. Maybe Rojas is better for that role tho, then he can finally get to ride for himself, guy is mightily strong.
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No way Unzué has Héctor in the Vuelta. He's a neo-pro from within the feeder structure, and has served his apprenticeship doing the minor races and the Northern Classics, we're talking about Marc Soler doing his first GT here. Unzué is notoriously careful with young riders, unless they've proven themselves elsewhere, like Urán did. Carapaz is the nearest to an exception, but then he adapted so quickly to the Spanish amateur scene that he was riding pro races pretty well as a stagiare - and Abarcá only rarely take on stagiares. Héctor is 3-4 years younger than Arcas and Pedrero, turned pro just one year later, and while obviously right now he's a domestique only, he can get over plenty of different terrains and I think the team may want to see him become something like Gorka or Jesús Herrada in time.
Pedrero maybe has a chance. Maybe even Dowsett, after he drew attention to his GT-free streak, as protecting the likes of Soler and Fernández, with the freedom to stagehunt and no GC pressure, will be less paramount and not require the same heavyweight domestiques like Bennati and Erviti. Oliveira is a good choice of rouleur I think. De la Parte just returned to racing in the Prueba Villafranca Ordizia and doesn't seem like an unreasonable shout as a mountain helper and stagehunter. If you compare the squad to the 2011 rudderless team after the disasters befalling the various prospective leaders, he's perhaps in the David López role, but he's capable of winning a stage on this kind of parcours for sure. He likes the heat and he's no mug against the clock, could be useful in a TTT. And what about Gorka, he just returned to racing too, and while he's likely to leave he's also plenty versatile enough to give the team some presence.
A decent selection would then be:
Barbero, Betancur, Carapaz, de la Parte, Fernández, Izagirre, Moreno, Oliveira, Soler, and they can maybe switch out Bananito or de la Parte for a rouleur helper if they feel they lack in that department with only Oliveira and Gorka for that role.
Pedrero maybe has a chance. Maybe even Dowsett, after he drew attention to his GT-free streak, as protecting the likes of Soler and Fernández, with the freedom to stagehunt and no GC pressure, will be less paramount and not require the same heavyweight domestiques like Bennati and Erviti. Oliveira is a good choice of rouleur I think. De la Parte just returned to racing in the Prueba Villafranca Ordizia and doesn't seem like an unreasonable shout as a mountain helper and stagehunter. If you compare the squad to the 2011 rudderless team after the disasters befalling the various prospective leaders, he's perhaps in the David López role, but he's capable of winning a stage on this kind of parcours for sure. He likes the heat and he's no mug against the clock, could be useful in a TTT. And what about Gorka, he just returned to racing too, and while he's likely to leave he's also plenty versatile enough to give the team some presence.
A decent selection would then be:
Barbero, Betancur, Carapaz, de la Parte, Fernández, Izagirre, Moreno, Oliveira, Soler, and they can maybe switch out Bananito or de la Parte for a rouleur helper if they feel they lack in that department with only Oliveira and Gorka for that role.
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Yes, Zaka's been in decent lead up to this Vuelta. Win may be too much, probably between Froome and Nibs, but podium could be possible. Aru said his glass is half full, but it's at least half empty after two weeks me thinks
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Yes, Zaka's been in decent lead up to this Vuelta. Win may be too much, probably between Froome and Nibs, but podium could be possible. Aru said his glass is half full, but it's at least half empty after two weeks me thinks
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