Vuelta Stage 18: Suances → Santo Toribio de Liébana - 169 km

[phil-i-am]

First hour is 45,6 km/h. I'd say that's a lot in winding and rolling terrain.

 

[Climbing]

Not fast? That's not flat road.
Actually I don't even think there are flat roads in Spain.
That's huge speed.

 

[telencefalus]

Re: Re:

not very high speed in the first 51 km just 42,5 km/h they have to go faster if they want Froome to crack completly

you seem to be a specialist in speed moyenne so tell us how fast should they ride to crack Froome?

i think in this false flat they have to go to 45 46 at least , and of course there is not a determinate speed , it 's just increase the probability that he will crack

 

[Escarabajo]

those Cat 3 climbs look more like Cat 2 climbs. So it is really 4 cat 2 climbs in the last 60 kms of the race.

 

[telencefalus]

not very high temperatures today and i think also in the coming stages so expect Froome to not win any stage

 

[gerundium]

Yeah this definitely not a flat run into the climbs. Looks quite undulating all the time, very leg-sapping.

 

[Asturiano]

According to Vuelta, first hour: 46,5km/h

Many up and downs, the north of Spain is not a flat place because of "la cordillera cantábrica". It's all arround mountains. The really big mountains are in Asturias.

 

[telencefalus]

the fact that alaphilippe try to go in the break is pretty strange , the breakaway would not be in place so if i was him i would wait a contador attack and see if i m able to hold wheel

 

[jsem94]

No break yet either. Crazy pace. I want to go live now.

 

[SafeBet]

20 man break getting clear.

 

[Jagartrott]

Compare this to the s**t race that was the Tour 2017 (with riders not even wanting to go in the breakaway). Depressing to think many casual viewers regard that French race as *the* pinacle of cycling.

 

[Lexman]

20 riders escaped it seemed, hopefully some men from Trek, Bahrein, Katusha...

 

[Valv.Piti]

Re:

Compare this to the s**t race that was the Tour 2017 (with riders not even wanting to go in the breakaway). Depressing to think many casual viewers regard that French race as *the* pinacle of cycling.

Pretty much. Actually insane...

 

[Asturiano]

Re:

No break yet either. Crazy pace. I want to go live now.

Spanish TV starts at 14:45 (Teledeporte)

 

[telencefalus]

Re: Re:

Compare this to the s**t race that was the Tour 2017 (with riders not even wanting to go in the breakaway). Depressing to think many casual viewers regard that French race as *the* pinacle of cycling.

Pretty much. Actually insane...

maybe at le tour the sprinter team play a huge role , in this vuelta sprinters are not existing

 

[Alexandre B.]

Re:

Compare this to the s**t race that was the Tour 2017 (with riders not even wanting to go in the breakaway). Depressing to think many casual viewers regard that French race as *the* pinacle of cycling.

You must have missed all the medium mountain of this year's Tour. Too bad.

 

[del1962]

Re:

Compare this to the s**t race that was the Tour 2017 (with riders not even wanting to go in the breakaway). Depressing to think many casual viewers regard that French race as *the* pinacle of cycling.

This is really stage dependent, plenty of big and hard fought for breaks in Tour, just not on sprinter stages

 

[Arredondo]

Re: Re:

Compare this to the s**t race that was the Tour 2017 (with riders not even wanting to go in the breakaway). Depressing to think many casual viewers regard that French race as *the* pinacle of cycling.

Pretty much. Actually insane...

maybe at le tour the sprinter team play a huge role , in this vuelta sprinters are not existing

Which is great. Sprinting is dead. It doesn't add something to a bike race. It's only an annoying suspension of what's actually important: the fight for GC.

 

[telencefalus]

Re: Re:

Compare this to the s**t race that was the Tour 2017 (with riders not even wanting to go in the breakaway). Depressing to think many casual viewers regard that French race as *the* pinacle of cycling.

You must have missed all the medium mountain of this year's Tour. Too bad.

this vuelta is much more good to see than le tour and also this stage will demonstrate it

 

[gerundium]

Julian Alaphilippe, Matteo Trentin (Quick Step), Alessandro De Marchi (BMC), Magnus Cort Nielsen (Orica-Scott), Nelson Oliveira, Marc Soler (Movistar), Patrick Konrad (Bora-Hansgrohe), Clément Chevrier, Alexis Gougeard (AG2R-La Mondiale), Toms Skujins (Cannondale-Drapac), Antwan Tolhoek (LottoNL-Jumbo), Matej Mohoric (UAE Team Emirates), Alexey Lutsenko (Astana), Sander Armée (Lotto-Soudal), Giovanni Visconti (Bahrain-Merida), Jérémy Maison, Anthony Roux (FDJ), Stéphane Rossetto (Cofidis), Sergio Pardilla (Caja Rural-Seguros RGA) and Aldemar Reyes (Manzana-Postobón)

 

[telencefalus]

Re: Re:

Compare this to the s**t race that was the Tour 2017 (with riders not even wanting to go in the breakaway). Depressing to think many casual viewers regard that French race as *the* pinacle of cycling.

Pretty much. Actually insane...

maybe at le tour the sprinter team play a huge role , in this vuelta sprinters are not existing

Which is great. Sprinting is dead. It doesn't add something to a bike race. It's only an annoying suspension of what's actually important: the fight for GC.

you may be right but come on sprint is adrenalin at its best

 

[Valv.Piti]

Re: Re:

Compare this to the s**t race that was the Tour 2017 (with riders not even wanting to go in the breakaway). Depressing to think many casual viewers regard that French race as *the* pinacle of cycling.

Pretty much. Actually insane...

maybe at le tour the sprinter team play a huge role , in this vuelta sprinters are not existing

Which is great. Sprinting is dead. It doesn't add something to a bike race. It's only an annoying suspension of what's actually important: the fight for GC.

Exactly. Its harder for the Tour tho, but its still no excuse really for this Tour.

 

[Asturiano]

The star :lol: :
https://twitter.com/edwinwinkels/status/905743768284012544

 

[Lexman]

Re:

Julian Alaphilippe, Matteo Trentin (Quick Step), Alessandro De Marchi (BMC), Magnus Cort Nielsen (Orica-Scott), Nelson Oliveira, Marc Soler (Movistar), Patrick Konrad (Bora-Hansgrohe), Clément Chevrier, Alexis Gougeard (AG2R-La Mondiale), Toms Skujins (Cannondale-Drapac), Antwan Tolhoek (LottoNL-Jumbo), Matej Mohoric (UAE Team Emirates), Alexey Lutsenko (Astana), Sander Armée (Lotto-Soudal), Giovanni Visconti (Bahrain-Merida), Jérémy Maison, Anthony Roux (FDJ), Stéphane Rossetto (Cofidis), Sergio Pardilla (Caja Rural-Seguros RGA) and Aldemar Reyes (Manzana-Postobón)

No one from Trek, Bahrein, or Katusha

Could Movistar ride for Contador?

 

[jarvo]

De Marchi in the break again, I think he picked himself in Fantasy team and knew he would get points for being in the break!